Southern California - The Second Slice of Apple Pie Ride

This is the official thread for the Apple Pie Ride that will occur on Saturday, November 25th (two days after Thanksgiving).

This will give everyone a chance to finish digesting the turkey and become truly sick of pumpkin pie and long for something different.

This is a challenging route starting in Valley Center and running up Palomar South Grade and Mesa Grande, but the scenery in Bandy Canyon is worth every foot of climbing. The basic ride of 99 miles and 9k of gain will keep you on your toes, but it will also keep you from gaining excess weight from the eating holiday!

Basic loop: ~99 miles, ~9.2k vertical
(OMG) Loop + out and back to observatory: ~107 miles, ~10.5k vertical
(JFC) Loop + out and back to Julian: ~113 miles, ~10.4k vertical
(WTF) Loop + both out and back trips: ~121 miles, ~11.7k vertical

People Attending:
WTF:
Extort

OMG:
jsigone
Scootcore
madmike
maddmike

Basic:
Brandy
DaveSANYYZ
The Fixer
Grumpy Pig
Mo'Phat*
jschen
chimivee

Possibly Attending:
Tak962
Cleave

Slackers :D
BigSean
OC Roadie
Tiffanie
Mateo44
Mel44
voltman
SDRider
1955
Doghair

SAG Support:
tprevost

Official start time should be at or near civil twilight, so everyone should be at the school at 5:30 for a 6:01AM departure.
Valley Center Middle School
28102 Lake Wohlford Rd
Valley Center, CA 92082

Route Slip: is HERE! (http://www.routeslip.com/map.php?map=14604)

115 miles?! How come the mileage just went up? Are we doing a second observatory out-and-back at the top of Palomar? I clocked 107 miles a weekend ago. OC Roadie claimed 110 miles back in January.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to it. I just hope my obligatory Baldy PR attempt on Thanksgiving morning doesn't take too much out of my climbing legs.

Can't make it. I'm up north that weekend and my ride will be solo and lonely :(
Have fun and be safe riding.
(Phew! 115 mls and 10K feet of climbing? Eat lots of stuffing and potatoes!);)

Too bad. :( It's an incredibly beautiful ride. Maybe some other time you can join us on this ride. I hope to make it a regular part of the BikeForums SoCal calendar.

115 miles?! How come the mileage just went up? Are we doing a second observatory out-and-back at the top of Palomar? I clocked 107 miles a weekend ago. OC Roadie claimed 110 miles back in January.

I was not positive on the exact mileage but I also wanted to include the Observatory and the town of Julian (Isn't that where Dudley's Bread comes from? hint hint Caligurl!!!!)... and like I told Brandy there is lots of places to cut corners by removing some of the mean little add ons...

This is the official thread for the Apple Pie Ride that will occur on Saturday, November 25th (two days after Thanksgiving).

This will give everyone a chance to finish digesting the turkey and become truly sick of pumpkin pie and long for something different.

This is a challenging route starting in Valley Center and running up Palomar South Grade and Mesa Grande, but the scenery in Bandy Canyon is worth every foot of climbing. The 115 miles and 10k of gain will keep you on your toes, but it will also keep you from gaining excess weight from the eating holiday!

People Attending:
Extort
jschen
Brandy :D

Route Slip:


Hey, don't forget, I'm doing SAG for this ride ;)

I was not positive on the exact mileage but I also wanted to include the Observatory and the town of Julian (Isn't that where Dudley's Bread comes from? hint hint Caligurl!!!!)... and like I told Brandy there is lots of places to cut corners by removing some of the mean little add ons...


I think you can also get that dudley bread at the corner of 78/76... along with pie if its wanted at that point ;)

I think you can also get that dudley bread at the corner of 78/76... along with pie if its wanted at that point ;)

That is just farther for Caligurl to drive..... if she comes for the ride we can load up the SAG vehicle at mile 60!

Basic loop: ~99 miles, ~9.2k vertical
Loop + out and back to observatory: ~107 miles, ~10.5k vertical
Loop + out and back to Julian: ~113 miles, ~10.4k vertical
Loop + both out and back trips: ~121 miles, ~11.7k vertical

The usual disclaimers apply. ;)

Hey, don't forget, I'm doing SAG for this ride ;)
Tracy, thanks again for offering to do SAG for us. It's very much appreciated.

Count me in, tentatlively. I'm not ready to bring this one up with my wife until after the Baldy ride;) I would like to do both out-n-backs, if anyone else is up for that.

hint hint Caligurl!!!!

nope.... there's NO WAY i can keep up with you, ocroadie and pico! and sagging isn't in my vocabulary! :p

nope.... there's NO WAY i can keep up with you, ocroadie and pico! and sagging isn't in my vocabulary! :p
So do the 99 mile loop. As discussed before, you can easily finish that within daylight hours. And then ride a mile at the end to hit the century mark. You don't have to keep up with Extort, OC Roadie, or Pico that way. They'll have some detours to slow them down.

So do the 99 mile loop. As discussed before, you can easily finish that within daylight hours. And then ride a mile at the end to hit the century mark. You don't have to keep up with Extort, OC Roadie, or Pico that way. They'll have some detours to slow them down.


jason... you should know me by now.... i don't take the easy or shorter route... (bail outs are also not in my vocabulary) i know my limitations... but if i decide to do a ride... i'm dowing the whole thing or not doing it at all! that's one of the reasons i like organized rides... then i'm not a "burden" on anyone.... the organizers have their limits... but there are lots of people... so i'm not holding anyone up....

jason... you should know me by now.... i don't take the easy or shorter route... (bail outs are also not in my vocabulary) i know my limitations... but if i decide to do a ride... i'm dowing the whole thing or not doing it at all! that's one of the reasons i like organized rides... then i'm not a "burden" on anyone.... the organizers have their limits... but there are lots of people... so i'm not holding anyone up....
You wouldn't be taking an easy route. Or a shortened route. You'd be riding the Pie route's mountainous century option, not the OMG option (+observatory side trip) or the WTF option (+both side trips).

It's akin to doing the highland century at Grand Tour rather than doing the quadruple century. You're not taking an "easy" or "shortened" route. You're still doing your full route.

What time is this ride starting?

nope.... there's NO WAY i can keep up with you, ocroadie and pico! and sagging isn't in my vocabulary! :p


why don't you come and ride w/me in the SAG wagon ... we can 'check out' the dudley bread and julian pie to make sure its okay for the rest of 'em to eat!!! Mmmmm.... ;)

How much room left in the SAG wagon? :p

How much room left in the SAG wagon? :p



hmmm... let's see.... we can fit 3-4 bikes and 4 people and still have room for the pies.... wanna hang out in the SAG????

why don't you come and ride w/me in the SAG wagon ... we can 'check out' the dudley bread and julian pie to make sure its okay for the rest of 'em to eat!!! Mmmmm.... ;)

Hey...don't be givin' away all the SAG wagon spots! I might need it! :eek:

why don't you come and ride w/me in the SAG wagon ... we can 'check out' the dudley bread and julian pie to make sure its okay for the rest of 'em to eat!!! Mmmmm.... ;)


i can't eat dudley bread and pie if i'm not riding! you're a bad influence on my fat self!

uhm.... you WILL have a SAG sign on your vehicle... RIGHT?

i can't eat dudley bread and pie if i'm not riding! you're a bad influence on my fat self!

HEY SIR-LANCE!!!!!!!!!! DID YOU SEE THAT? CALIGURL SAID THE "F" WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

Hey...don't be givin' away all the SAG wagon spots! I might need it! :eek:If there're limited spots, we can turn this into a relay while the strong peeps do the full run. :o

HEY SIR-LANCE!!!!!!!!!! DID YOU SEE THAT? CALIGURL SAID THE "F" WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

you BE QUIET!

If there're limited spots, we can turn this into a relay while the strong peeps do the full run. :o
So you can do the solo Pie ride or the 2-man team or the 4-man team. :lol:

uhm.... you WILL have a SAG sign on your vehicle... RIGHT?


no way, then they'll all come and take our goodies!!!

why don't you come and ride w/me in the SAG wagon ... we can 'check out' the dudley bread and julian pie to make sure its okay for the rest of 'em to eat!!! Mmmmm.... ;)

Hey, I had first dibs!

Hey, I had first dibs!


there's enough room for both of ya!!! :p

there's enough room for both of ya!!! :p

Ok :D


Wait - that doesn't leave any room for anyone who may need a lift though!

ok....i should be done working my current show by then and we dont leave town for the holidays....for now, im in!!!!

Ok :D


Wait - that doesn't leave any room for anyone who may need a lift though!

That's my concern!!! :eek:

That's my concern!!! :eek:


Nahhh.... my rack holds 2 bikes, plus I can get 2 bikes in the back if necessary and still hold 4 peeps... in a pinch, we can squeeze one more bike and person too :p

Somehow, I don't think I'll be doing much SAGGING, but I'll be there just in case!

t~

I'll have to see how the scheduling goes for my time with Sarah. If I can do it, I might. Very tentative for now for one big reason, I'm NOT a climber. But that ride was so beautiful, it does call to me.

Very tentative for now for one big reason, I'm NOT a climber.

Me neither! :eek:

Me neither! :eek:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

No, really, she's terrible.

What time is this ride starting?

Anyone know???? I think (know) I'm going to need a head start on this ride, so I need to start as early as possible.

I can't believe she's still playing the sandbagger card.

Ralph and Brandy, you've got two months to prepare! Two months before the Pie ride in January, I had just climbed Mt Baldy (very slowly and painfully) for the first time. And this time around, we'll be smarter about not sitting around as long at rest stops. And cut out the out and back to the observatory for anyone who might be under time pressure.

I can't believe she's still playing the sandbagger card.

Hey...if I was playing the sandbagger card, I wouldn't even attempt this! I honestly have no idea how I'll do, coming off of two months off of the bike and all physical activity. I can only imagine that I will have lost some strength!

Anyone know???? I think (know) I'm going to need a head start on this ride, so I need to start as early as possible.
I don't know what the others will decide, but I plan to start a civil twilight. Any earlier, and I would feel the need to carry lights at the beginning.

I still vote for a tour of good pie shops. Via automobile.

Ralph and Brandy, you've got two months to prepare!

Actually...I will have five weeks to prepare, since I won't likely be cleared to ride for another 2-3 weeks. I'm still willing to give it a shot though!

I still vote for a tour of good pie shops. Via automobile.
We could use another SAG driver. :p

Hey...if I was playing the sandbagger card, I wouldn't even attempt this! I honestly have no idea how I'll do, coming off of two months off of the bike and all physical activity. I can only imagine that I will have lost some strength!

Can I have my ass back now please? :D

Actually...I will have five weeks to prepare, since I won't likely be cleared to ride for another 2-3 weeks. I'm still willing to give it a shot though!
Give it a shot. I'll train with you on Sundays once you're back on the bike. And we'll train as if we're doing the 99 miles/9.2k vertical, but come ride day, hey, if you ride out to pie, eat the pie, roll into Ramona at a digestive pace, and then choose to SAG it, so be it.

Can I have my ass back now please? :D

Uh.

Uh.

Oh nevermind. :roflmao: