Fifty Plus (50+) - Heart Recovery Rate

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DnvrFox
09-29-06, 04:46 AM
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Vote two times.

There has been a lot of discussion about maximum heart rates.

However, how is your heart recovery rate for someone 50+?

I've been exercising in the workout room of my motel this am, doing a bit of experimenting and measuring. As I have no HRM with me, everything is done by taking my pulse for 10 seconds and multiplying by 6. Not perfect, but certainly an indicator.

So, on the exercise bike, after getting my heart rate up a bit, AND THEN STOPPING EXERCISING, I measured the drop after 55-65 seconds and after 115-125 seconds (it takes 10 seconds to take my pulse).

My drop after 55-65 seconds was a bit over 30 BPM, and after 115-125 seconds was 36 BPM.

What's yours? Use either a HRM or just take your pulse.

Let us know.


NoRacer
09-29-06, 05:26 AM
There's no need for me to vote 2 times if my heart rate recovers 40+ beats in one minute; 2 minutes isn't going to make much more of a difference.

BluesDawg
09-29-06, 05:31 AM
Don't know...


DnvrFox
09-29-06, 06:09 AM
There's no need for me to vote 2 times if my heart rate recovers 40+ beats in one minute; 2 minutes isn't going to make much more of a difference.

It makes the graph look a whole lot nicer! :D

stonecrd
09-29-06, 06:13 AM
I think your data may be difficult to analyze since there is no control over the variables. What is the rate you are measuring recovery from? What are you doing during recovery? For instance in my case I used 90% MHR as the top and after a minute I am at 80% MHR but I am still riding at 18+ mph. If recovery means stopping or just spinning at 12mph then I may get down to 70% or 40bpm.

DnvrFox
09-29-06, 06:17 AM
I think your data may be difficult to analyze since there is no control over the variables. What is the rate you are measuring recovery from? What are you doing during recovery? For instance in my case I used 90% MHR as the top and after a minute I am at 80% MHR but I am still riding at 18+ mph. If recovery means stopping or just spinning at 12mph then I may get down to 70% or 40bpm.

The intent was to measure the heart rate after stopping, which, as I understand it, is how one measures the recovery heart rate.

I will change the directions a bit.

No, this is NOT a scientific analysis - just a sort of, hopefully, "fun" activity.

Take it for what is is worth.

It is really impossible to conduct a scientific survey with 10 poll questions - which is all that is available with the polling program available.

pastorbobnlnh
09-29-06, 06:56 AM
So it's raining here in northern New England--- and there's nothing to do while Ms. Fox cuddles up with a good book next to the woodstove--- but dream up a new poll? Come on over to my neck of the woods and we can visit the dump and wrench some bikes!

NoRacer
09-29-06, 07:54 AM
I think your data may be difficult to analyze since there is no control over the variables. What is the rate you are measuring recovery from? What are you doing during recovery? For instance in my case I used 90% MHR as the top and after a minute I am at 80% MHR but I am still riding at 18+ mph. If recovery means stopping or just spinning at 12mph then I may get down to 70% or 40bpm.

Precisely! If, I'm hammering an interval or maybe doing a sprint that's over 30 seconds long, I can max out at over 97% (180 BPM from 186 MHR). If I stop and wait 60 seconds before twitching one muscle (highly dependent on accumulated blood lactate, environmental temperature, hydration status), I will be below 120 BPM (64% of MHR). In 25 seconds, I'll be below 130 BPM (70% of MHR).

Now, if I started at 64% of MHR, it would take longer to attain a 40+ BPM drop in heart rate. The closer to resting heart rate, the longer it could take to effect a large drop in heart rate.

boyze
09-29-06, 08:10 AM
I think it may also depend on whether it's the 1st interval or the 10th. Some other dependencies might be temp and humidity, hydration, ............. Regardless, still an interesting study.

stapfam
09-29-06, 12:50 PM
Get My HR up to 145ish on a ride and I feel just about comfortable, providing I have worked up to it, and my HR will drop by 30 within 2 minutes. Then again, if I get it up to 120 then it will only drop by 20 within 2 minutes. Depends on whether I am warmed up or not and how high I have got it up to. Then again- When I get it up to 175+ and stop exercising before I fall off the bike- then it will drop nothing for about 30 seconds and then plummet. Doesn't matter though because 5 minutes after stopping- I still feel as someone had put lead in my legs and there is still a long way to go before I get home. For some reason- I only go that high unless I have to.

Last week- I did a controlled ride and kept my HR at 140 for 5 miles. Slight rise in HR and I slowed down and if there was a drop- I pushed a bit harder. Funny thing was that at the start of the 5 miles- I was finding it hard. By the end- I was struggling to stop putting in the power as I felt so good.

Edit- Haven't posted on the poll yet as I will check it out on my next ride and post more accurately.

howsteepisit
09-29-06, 01:03 PM
I hope my recovery time improves after I spend the winter on an indoor trainer, with a lot more consistancy then I had this year.

DnvrFox
09-29-06, 01:21 PM
So it's raining here in northern New England--- and there's nothing to do while Ms. Fox cuddles up with a good book next to the woodstove--- but dream up a new poll? Come on over to my neck of the woods and we can visit the dump and wrench some bikes!

I am an early - early riser (like 4:45 am). My wife isn't. I generally go for a 3 mile walk and exercise with the therabands while traveling as she sleeps in. Today it was raining so I exercised inside, did some therabands and filled out this fool survey, which some people are actually taking seriously!

Relax, guys and gals. Your bicycling life does not depend upon the results posted herein.

Sheesh!:D

DnvrFox
09-29-06, 02:18 PM
From an internet article (http://www.miowatch.com/content/view/29/84/)


What is heart rate recovery?
Heart rate recovery is the best indicator of your fitness level.

A recovery test can easily be taken manually. Take your heart rate during activity. Cease activity. Wait 1 minute. Take your heart rate again. The value should drop at least 20 beats per minute. If it does not drop quickly you need to work on your cardio conditioning. The more conditioned you are the faster your heart rate should drop.

p8rider
09-29-06, 06:39 PM
DFox - If it's a rainy day why don't you download all of the photos and set them up for us to see.
I went to school in NE and fall is by far the best season there. I do hope you are taking alot of pics and will share some of the good ones with us.

MTBLover
09-29-06, 09:45 PM
I think a percent change would be more interesting (and appropriate).

DnvrFox
09-30-06, 04:30 AM
I think a percent change would be more interesting (and appropriate).

Ok.

Go to "New Thread"

Write a message

Click on "poll"

Presto, you can write your own poll!

Hey, if you did write a poll, then I could criticize the heck out of your poll!

DnvrFox
09-30-06, 04:45 AM
DFox - If it's a rainy day why don't you download all of the photos and set them up for us to see.
I went to school in NE and fall is by far the best season there. I do hope you are taking alot of pics and will share some of the good ones with us.

I am using motel computers - didn't bring one with me. I didn't bring any hardware (card readers with USB plug-ins) so I can't download! :(

It will have to wait until I get back home.

kakman
09-30-06, 06:07 AM
However, how is your heart recovery rate for someone 50+?

I've been exercising in the workout room of my motel this am, doing a bit of experimenting and measuring. As I have no HRM with me, everything is done by taking my pulse for 10 seconds and multiplying by 6. Not perfect, but certainly an indicator.
I did this on today's ride. Wound up to around 155 bpm (that's pretty solid going but not flat out) and then backed off to just ticking over the pedals. Went from 155 to around 123 in the first minute and to 115 in the second minute.

More interesting to me was how quickly it could RISE. There's a particularly short, nasty hill on this ride. Takes a little over 10 seconds to cover and I went from 132 to 160 in that 10 seconds.

MTBLover
09-30-06, 09:07 AM
Hey, if you did write a poll, then I could criticize the heck out of your poll!

Sorry you took this as criticism- I didn't intend it that way. Just a simple statement, and if anything, a criticism not of your poll but of earlier work suggesting that simple decrease (like >12 bpm in 1 minute) is predictive of cardiovascular health. While there are several studies that support this, it can be an overly simplistic measure in people who are genetically inclined to faster resting rates. Another metric to consider is the time to resting HR. In short there are other ways to think about recovery.

OK?

DnvrFox
10-01-06, 12:35 PM
Sorry you took this as criticism- I didn't intend it that way. Just a simple statement, and if anything, a criticism not of your poll but of earlier work suggesting that simple decrease (like >12 bpm in 1 minute) is predictive of cardiovascular health. While there are several studies that support this, it can be an overly simplistic measure in people who are genetically inclined to faster resting rates. Another metric to consider is the time to resting HR. In short there are other ways to think about recovery.

OK?

OK

It seems that whenever one has the gumption (or stupidity or whatever) to write a poll, a lot of folks then think, "Hey, I could have written that a lot better" and then proceed to describe what should have been different about the poll.

I have found - over 5 years - that it takes a good deal of thought and planning to write a poll that is not confusing, is clear to the reader, and provides at least some meaningful results, and covers as many eventualities as possible - although it is a truism that no matter how many choices you put in, you will leave out someone's favorite, and they will jump on you for that - EVEN if you give the option of "other."

However, some of the parameters are - the poll is limited to 10 questions, you have no opportunity to cross reference or ask any in-depth questions.

So, I challenge others to write polls, and I would relish the opportunity to poke holes in what they have done - but I have never taken this opportunity, and shan't in the future!

Have a great day.