Southeast - Atlanta/Decatur needs a LONG "What's Up" thread too!

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Andrew*Debbie
05-12-07, 09:43 AM
Emory Commencement is Monday May 14.

Traffic around campus will be very heavy. Worst is usually 7AM to 8AM. Lots of drivers unfamiliar with the area too.


RonH
05-12-07, 04:01 PM
Briarcliff/Clifton/Shepherds Lane intersection is one that I will never attempt again.
I have a friend who works at the Woodruff library who rides thru that intersection every day. He was hit by an SUV but still rides there every day.
Oh wait. I wasn't supposed to tell you that. Forget what I said. It's a safe area. ;)



I've been thinking about it. I have a copy of Forester's book but I'm sure a class would help. I could have taken the class at Emory for free but it was full before I got around to signing up.
I know it's a long way off but there will be another class at Emory on October 13, 2007. They always do their classes in mid-April and mid-October.



Emory Commencement is Monday May 14.

Traffic around campus will be very heavy. Worst is usually 7AM to 8AM. Lots of drivers unfamiliar with the area too.
I know. I used to work there and my wife still does. She has to be at work at 7:00 and usually leaves home around 6:45 but she's planning on leaving about 10 minutes earlier on Monday.

I'll be riding through the campus. :( I'm sure there will be at least 10 morons who step off the curb and out in front of me Monday morning. :crash:

TLupo
05-12-07, 11:24 PM
Trust me, riding in Atlanta is a breeze compared to what I have seen here in Saudi. I was never afraid of any of the roads in Atlanta. There were a few that I would avoid if I could find an alternate route, but with the right attitude and proper technique, everything legal in Atlanta is navigatable.

On my last contract, I rode Tucker to Midtown everyday and had to go by the Briarcliff/Shepherds/Clifton intersection. My best advise is that if you are riding from Midtown, turn right on Clifton and left on Biltmore. It is a little challenging to make the left on the downhill, but you will enjoy the cut through on Biltmore. Coming the other way, your best option is to take Briarcliff from LaVista, so that you are in the proper lane as you pass the Shepherds intersection with good visibility. Getting up the hill on Clifton and making the light for a left turn onto Briarcliff is kind of tough.

I would very much recommend an Effective Cycling class, as Ron did. After taking the class, I understand why you should never ride on the sidewalk.

Also, go to www.bikesbl.org (http://www.bikesbl.org) and check out the ride calendar for group rides. Riding with experienced riders will go a long way to help you gain your confidence. The ones I would suggest to start with are the Freight Room, Valley Brook Backstretch, Wing Ding, Tuesday Melton's, and the Thursday Mellowmushroom rides.

It just takes some experience and you will have no fear on the Atlanta roads.

Tommy


georgiaboy
05-22-07, 04:37 PM
How's everyone doing with all the pollutants in the air from the South Georgia fire? Today was pretty rough.

RonH
05-23-07, 05:18 AM
We had the windows open and the smell woke me up about 4:30 Tuesday morning. Didn't cause any eye irritation problems during the day.
Seems the wind is blowing from another direction today because I couldn't smell anything burning this morning. :)

Andrew*Debbie
05-23-07, 06:04 PM
How's everyone doing with all the pollutants in the air from the South Georgia fire? Today was pretty rough.
Yesterday, I caught a ride in with Debbie in the morning and used public transportation to get home. Way too smoky for me.

Today we took the day off work and rode the Silver Comet :)

RonH
05-24-07, 05:22 AM
Hey everyone. Josh is having a birthday today. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/sign0008.gif
:bday: Have a great day Josh. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/party0019.gifhttp://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/party0018.gif

Any big party plans at Peachtree Bikes?

purplebike
05-24-07, 12:25 PM
He's in Peru!

:)

Now that's what I call a party!

RonH
05-25-07, 05:10 AM
Hmmm. We rode together last Friday on Bike to Work Day and he didn't say anything about leaving town. :o

purplebike
05-25-07, 05:23 AM
He's sneaky, and possibly snarky, like that. I'm cat sitting for him and Amy. :)

larryfeltonj
06-05-07, 07:12 PM
I've just started posting on this forum, but I've been cycling in Atlanta since about 1957 or so (I was born in 1951, grew up in the Grant Park neighborhood of Atlanta, and still live nearby in East Atlanta).

I started cycling in an aggressively vehicular fashion in about 1972, when my sister informed me that for the most part the same traffic laws pertaining to automobiles also applied to cyclists (both of us are in our fifties, and both of us are still avid cyclists).

I haven't read through the many posts on this thread yet, but am answering the initial post.

I cycle commute downtown (only about 3.5 miles away) and have recently developed a project of doing all my utility trips via bicycle.

My primary bike is a Raleigh Supercourse, which fits me like a glove in terms of cycling style, but really isn't well suited for what I spend most of my time doing (commuting, grocery shopping). It's a racing frame, which doesn't have the clearances for fenders, needed adapters for a rack to fit, and doesn't have fittings for anything but water bottles.

Consequently I'm in the process of converting an old Peugeot Iseran into my commute bike. I picked it up in a thrift store for $35.00. It's in amazingly good shape, although when I'm finished with it it'll have an order of magnitude more cost than the initial purchase price.

I also have a funky old Raleigh built in the "let's see how heavy we can make the frame" era, complete with one of the worst engineering decisions in the history of bicycle manufacture (top tube shifters),
some sort of cheap folding monstrosity that I've taken on as an extreme makeover project, and a bicycle from Performance which my sister recently gave me (very light, dura-ace components, needs some work).

My primary destinations are my workplace, Sevananda (in Little Five Points), the Edgewood Retail District, and the Dekalb Farmers Market.

Well, that about describes me and my cycling.

larryfeltonj
06-05-07, 07:35 PM
Trust me, riding in Atlanta is a breeze compared to what I have seen here in Saudi. I was never afraid of any of the roads in Atlanta. There were a few that I would avoid if I could find an alternate route, but with the right attitude and proper technique, everything legal in Atlanta is navigatable.

On my last contract, I rode Tucker to Midtown everyday and had to go by the Briarcliff/Shepherds/Clifton intersection. My best advise is that if you are riding from Midtown, turn right on Clifton and left on Biltmore. It is a little challenging to make the left on the downhill, but you will enjoy the cut through on Biltmore. Coming the other way, your best option is to take Briarcliff from LaVista, so that you are in the proper lane as you pass the Shepherds intersection with good visibility. Getting up the hill on Clifton and making the light for a left turn onto Briarcliff is kind of tough.

I would very much recommend an Effective Cycling class, as Ron did. After taking the class, I understand why you should never ride on the sidewalk.

Also, go to www.bikesbl.org (http://www.bikesbl.org) and check out the ride calendar for group rides. Riding with experienced riders will go a long way to help you gain your confidence. The ones I would suggest to start with are the Freight Room, Valley Brook Backstretch, Wing Ding, Tuesday Melton's, and the Thursday Mellowmushroom rides.

It just takes some experience and you will have no fear on the Atlanta roads.

Tommy

I'm new on this forum, but I'll ditto this observation. Take the Effective Cycling course (and read the book Effective Cycling by John Forester... the best single volume on cycling ever written).

Two other things I'd add (and they may sound somewhat contradictory) are that:

1) Cycling conditions in Atlanta are really pretty good, despite the reputation Atlanta has as a car dominant city. You'll always get a few jerks honking their horns if you ride long distances here, but for the most part if you know how to operate (and the Effective Cycling courses help in that regard) drivers here treat you well.

2) Cycling must be enjoyable to be sustainable. I'm aggressive about asserting my rights to the road, but if I have to modify my route to feel comfortable, I'll do it. As an example, the most efficient route to work for me (East Atlanta to downtown) would be Moreland to Memorial to Capitol Avenue. But during rush hour the chaos of crossing the Moreland bridge over I-20 and the lane changes involved in making the left turn onto Memorial make that route unpleasant. So I take a route I enjoy (I cross the I-20 bridge at Boulevard).

larryfeltonj
06-05-07, 07:53 PM
How's everyone doing with all the pollutants in the air from the South Georgia fire? Today was pretty rough.

Needless to say it's gotten much better. At around the date you wrote this I'd go to my front yard in the morning and glance around to make sure no one's house was on fire (I didn't want to make the assumption that the heavy smoke on the neighborhood was from the Georgia/Florida fires).

I'd also arrive at work coughing.

At this point I think the worst is clearly over.

RonH
06-06-07, 05:27 AM
I'm new on this forum, but I'll ditto this observation. Take the Effective Cycling course...
As one of the Effective Cycling instructors for the Atlanta Bicycle Campaign I totally agree with Larry.
I see too many cyclists who take up commuting or rec riding on the streets who don't have a clue about how to *safely* navigate in traffic, don't know the rules of the road, don't have lights or blinkies, don't wear bright colors (especially at night), etc.

RonH
06-17-07, 07:46 AM
This thread has certainly been "quiet". No one in Atlanta riding??? ;)

Map tester
06-18-07, 07:05 AM
I have been on vacation, and not riding too much. Just started back to work today, and the ride in wasn't too bad. Have you been riding Ron?

nmanhipot
06-18-07, 11:08 AM
Hey, all. Just checking in. I grew up in SoCal, where, yes, we still got teased for shaving our legs and wearing spandex. I've been riding most of my life and I commute from Woodstock to Norcross daily down Hwy 92/Alabama Road NE/Woodstock Road/W Crossville Road/E Crossville Road/SR 140/Holcomb Bridge Road (all one road, actually. Thanks, Georgia!). Going over 400 is perhaps the most exhilirating aspect of my commute what with the double-wide suicide turn lanes. I've been commuting since October of '05 after getting back the courage to do it after being broadsided by an F-250 going through a green light in March '04. I Haven't had any collisions since then, but I've had a few incidents and close calls. My commute is 24.5 miles each way and I do it on average 3-days per week. On a good day, it's 90 minutes or less, but the record is 1 hour 14 minutes. I need to start a tally of this but I've probably been honked at 100 times, had one bottle thrown at me, had at least a dozen semis push me into the rain gutter, been screamed at at least two-dozen times and been cut off at least a dozen times. I had one lady pass me and then cut me off to change lanes into a curbed turn lane, which forced me to do a hail-mary slam on the brakes. I had to literally jump up onto the curb to avoid slamming into her car which came to a stop six inches from the curb. She looked at me through her window like, "You dumb ass. Get a car." Like I said when I first got here, "Southern hospitality ends at the curb." Still, I need to ride to keep the weight down, for my sanity sake and to feed my addiction. It gets better over time but two things are still pretty crappy - picking up nails and semis and dump trucks that don't give you enough room when they pass you. I log about 5-6 kilomiles per year, 90% of which is commuting in heavy traffic, but I do other fun stuff like every-once-in-a-while show up at the velodrome and I raced last year but I'm waiting until I'm light and fast enough to win instead of pay $80-90 a weekend, plus fuel, hotel and food to ride in circles without compensation.

purplebike
06-18-07, 01:12 PM
Woodstock to Norcross? You deserve an award, my friend! Seriously, I'm impressed.

EuroJosh
06-19-07, 05:49 AM
This thread has certainly been "quiet". No one in Atlanta riding??? ;)
Been riding a ton, also busy as hell at the bike shop. Thanks for the birthday wishes Ron. I was in Peru and on my birthday I got a tattoo:D , hey that rhymes.

EuroJosh
06-19-07, 05:56 AM
"Southern hospitality ends at the curb."
That should be on a bumper sticker for sure. You must have some thick skin to deal with that commute.

RonH
06-19-07, 07:09 AM
Been riding a ton, also busy as hell at the bike shop. Thanks for the birthday wishes Ron. I was in Peru and on my birthday I got a tattoo:D , hey that rhymes.
We too are extremely busy. :( :)

Vacation in Peru. Awesome!! :beer:
Tattoo?? Got pictures?


I must confess that I haven't been bike commuting as much as I'd like. :o
When I ride on the days that I work until the shop closes, I don't get home until ~7:40 PM. Then a quick shower. Then I gulp down some supper. Then spend the remaining time with my wife before going to bed at 10:00 (We get up at 6:00 AM because she has to be at work at 7:00 AM).
Consequently my waistline is not getting any smaller. :(

RonH
06-19-07, 07:13 AM
I've been riding most of my life and I commute from Woodstock to Norcross...
Welcome nmanhipot.
Wow!! That's quite a commute. :beer:

I thought my old commute (2001-2003) from Decatur to Norcross (14 miles one way) was tough but yours is worse. :eek:
Stay safe.

nmanhipot
06-19-07, 07:38 AM
Hey thanks all, glad to be here. I'm enjoying this summer much better than last year when I was on a single speed with just a front break. That got a bit sketchy when wet so I picked up a 700C disc bike and am loving it! It does have a triple on the front (wuss factor!) but it's OK because the bike is pretty heavy. I rode home in rain the other night and the next morning and that sucker stops on a dime! It also keeps the bike cleaner which is a big plus. I can't bring myself to put the fenders on though because it seems like I really get hit with crosswinds at high speed. Anyway, nice to be here. Awesome commute this morning.

nmanhipot
06-19-07, 08:17 PM
I need an opinion here. If you're on a four lane road with absolutely no shoulder and the cars are farther away from each other than they are from the grass, is it OK to ride the dashed white line between the two lanes? I know the rules say you can take the lane if you are travelling at the same rate of speed but what about riding between lanes or "white lining". This was legal for motosuckers in California but I wonder what a) the law in GA says about this and b) you effective cycling gurus would think of this. :) There are long sections of Holcomb Bridge Road where the white line meets the grass with no shoulder and I have actually cyclocrossed it to get around cars stopped on or within inches of the white line. If I can't get around on the right, I either wait or I have the option of passing on the left between the lanes if it's a parking lot. So what's the official position on overtaking cars?

RonH
06-20-07, 05:51 AM
I'm an Effective Cycling instructor (LCI #1076) and GA code says
Georgia Transportation Code 40-6-294:

(a) Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable, except when turning left or avoiding hazards to safe cycling, when the lane is too narrow to share safely with a motor vehicle, when traveling at the same speed as traffic, or while exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction; provided, however, that every person operating a bicycle away from the right side of the roadway shall exercise reasonable care and shall give due consideration to the other applicable rules of the road. As used in this subsection, the term 'hazards to safe cycling' includes, but is not limited to, surface debris, rough pavement, drain grates which are parallel to the side of the roadway, parked or stopped vehicles, potentially opening car doors, or any other objects which threaten the safety of a person operating a bicycle.


If you pass the stopped cars by riding between the lanes on the dashed line, watch for some idiot who may open his/her door (for whatever reason???).

And whenever you feel you must do so, TAKE THE LANE!!

nmanhipot
06-20-07, 06:00 AM
Looks like I need to take the class :D Where do I find a schedule?

RonH
06-20-07, 06:02 AM
http://www.atlantabike.org/. Click on "Bike Classes" on the left.

The spring schedule is over. The next series of classes will be offered starting in September.

Since I left Atlanta Bicycle Campaign in February, they have been slow updating their website.
Give them a call - 404.881.1112

nmanhipot
06-21-07, 10:07 AM
Thanks, Ron for your feedback. I know the idea is to arrive alive and not hack off motorists (which are my #1 and #2 goals when commuting). Please take a look at the highlighted text and let me know if I am off-base with my conclusions/questions below or not.



Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable, except when turning left or avoiding hazards to safe cycling, when the lane is too narrow to share safely with a motor vehicle, when traveling at the same speed as traffic, or while exercising due care when passing a standing vehicleor one proceeding in the same direction; provided, however, that every person operating a bicycle away from the right side of the roadway shall exercise reasonable care and shall give due consideration to the other applicable rules of the road. As used in this subsection, the term 'hazards to safe cycling' includes, but is not limited to, surface debris, rough pavement, drain grates which are parallel to the side of the roadway, parked or stopped vehicles, potentially opening car doors, or any other objects which threaten the safety of a person operating a bicycle.


I don't know if a lawyer would agree with this or not (which I am certainly not) but does it follow from the highlighted text above that you can pass a vehicle in traffic? I guess my question is if you can legally pass a vehicle on a bicycle, whether standing or moving, does it matter if you pass them on the right or the left?

Is there a section of the law which deals with not passing on the right? I realize that bicycles are an odd case because we occupy the same lane as a car and cars are certainly expected to be able to pass us but is there any limitation to us passing them on the right when they slow down for red lights and stop signs?

RonH
06-22-07, 05:26 AM
I don't know if a lawyer would agree with this or not (which I am certainly not) but does it follow from the highlighted text above that you can pass a vehicle in traffic? I guess my question is if you can legally pass a vehicle on a bicycle, whether standing or moving, does it matter if you pass them on the right or the left?
Is there a section of the law which deals with not passing on the right? I realize that bicycles are an odd case because we occupy the same lane as a car and cars are certainly expected to be able to pass us but is there any limitation to us passing them on the right when they slow down for red lights and stop signs?
In all 50 states, a bicycle is a vehicle. Passing on the left is the "expected" norm. If you're in a line of cars stopped at a light and want to pass on the right, BE CAREFUL! You never know when a passenger may open the door on the right. Same goes when passing on the left. Ride at least a door's width away from the car. You don't want to get the "door prize".

There's nothing in the law that deals with passing on the right.

nmanhipot
06-22-07, 08:25 AM
Thanks. I took a peek in the VC section yesterday and though, oh man, maybe I should delete that last post so I don't attract attention and start some huge flame war. Yuck. What a mess. I'll definitely consider the class in Fall. Spending so much time in traffic, I know I sometimes get impatient and complacent at times. But since I also know what it's like to take a trip in the shiny red bus with the flashing lights, I know I need to minimize irresponsible cycling on my part.

In other news, I have a couple of co-workers who started cycling this last year and they have invited me to go on a century tomorrow on the Silver Comet. I spent an hour detailing the good bike last night and can't wait for tomorrow morning. Oh what fun!! I think one of the best things about having a dedicated commuter bike is being able to keep the race wheels on the road bike and saving it for special rides on the weekend, etc.,. Also, replacing the drive train is about 1/4 of the money, too!

I guess I'm just in a really good mood today. Awesome commute this morning, just taking it easy at 67% and I still got there within six minutes of my normal time. I hope you all have a great weekend and I'll post about the century on Monday give or take.

Sif
06-23-07, 06:25 PM
*pokes head in and looks around*

helloooo!

i live in roswell...anybody in my neck of the woods? do i see any of you as i ride near the chattahoochee nature center and down azalea drive?

Sif
06-23-07, 08:38 PM
Is there a section of the law which deals with not passing on the right? I realize that bicycles are an odd case because we occupy the same lane as a car and cars are certainly expected to be able to pass us but is there any limitation to us passing them on the right when they slow down for red lights and stop signs?

i think the safest bet is to be where they generally expect us to be. i'm not shy about taking my lane, but i would rather wait my turn than pass on the left. i guess the only glaring exception i can think of is if the car is slowing and obviously making a right turn. i've cyclocrossed a few times as well, but i really don't like doing it.

i live near where you ride - i may even see you from time to time. (i'll wave if i do.)

RonH
06-24-07, 07:21 AM
Welcome Sif. :beer:


i think the safest bet is to be where they generally expect us to be. i'm not shy about taking my lane, but i would rather wait my turn than pass on the left.
Me too.
There have been a few times when my usual commute route was backed up (because of a broken water main, etc.). Most days I'd be behind 1 or 2 cars, but the day of the water main break (not on my route), everyone was taking my side street to get around the mess. I found myself behind ~50 cars. I paused for 3/4 of a second and then passed everyone (on the left) until I was second in line to make my turn.

Sif
06-24-07, 05:19 PM
that's definitely an extenuating circumstance. for such an occasion, i think i would step out of my normal procedure and put on a demonstration why bike commuting is so much better than the metal coffin. :D

Pedal Wench
06-25-07, 10:15 PM
This thread has certainly been "quiet". No one in Atlanta riding??? ;)

I was riding in Colorado (www.ridetherockies.com) and just got back. 422 miles in the Rockies - it really can't be beat. It sucks to be back - the riding out there is unbelievable - the drivers are friendly, there are bike lanes and bike paths with scenery that takes your breathe away. Or maybe it was the altitude. I don't know. I just wanna go back. Now.:(

nmanhipot
06-26-07, 07:14 AM
Welcome SIF. Welcome back PW. I've never been to Colorado but my sister who lived there wondered why if I was such a big cycling finatic, I didn't try to move there. From the sound of it, if I ever visited I might not ever come back :)

SIF,

I used to ride through Azalea on my commute but am just taking the "short way" via Crosstown/Woodstock Road now. Thanks for your input on riding position. I have found that drivers aren't too comfortable seeing cyclists between lanes filtering forward but I think a lot of it depends on whether they are moving or stopped. Stopped and trickling through at low speed isn't as bad as flying through in slow moving traffic, like the approach to 400. On this one section of Holcomb Bridge road just past Spalding Drive, a bicycle can overtake traffic because of the low car speeds and the right shoulder has these really bad pot holes and such that are unavoidable. Last week I just took the lane, rather than trying to pass and it was very smooth and no one seemed to mind. I just get out of the way as soon as the cars pick-up speed.

nmanhipot
06-26-07, 07:19 AM
Saturday my newbie-cyclist co-workers and I did our century out on the Silver Comet. It was great fun! We hooked up with a couple of seasoned riders and it made for an entertaining day. I met this really nice guy Steve who was on a 140-miler with his wife. Brave stuff for a 94-degree day. My co-workers and I ended up with 108 miles and we all went through about 9 or 10 bottles of fluids and were still dehydrated when we got back. They said "the fun wore off at mile 70 or so". Still they made it and managed to drag themselves to work on Monday. I hope the rest of you are getting some good riding in in this awesome warm, sunny weather we've been having.

Sif
06-27-07, 07:50 PM
hubby (nicknamed "thor" by a friend some time ago) and i try to get a ride in at least once a weekend. we don't really go very far because our 12 yr old is babysitting our 3 yr old, but we do get some miles in.

i'm getting acclimated. he's home during the week - working on his dissertation and job-hunting - so he has more miles than i do. i try to ride after work a couple of times a week, but life interferes...and so do late-day storms.

thanks for the welcome nmaniphot. :D

RonH
06-28-07, 05:16 AM
I was riding in Colorado (www.ridetherockies.com) and just got back.
Hey PW. Welcome back.
Was there a Sorella "team"?
Got pics?

RonH
06-28-07, 07:02 AM
we don't really go very far because our 12 yr old is babysitting our 3 yr old, but we do get some miles in.
Sounds like it's time for a trailer or a child seat so ALL of you can get in more miles. :)

nmanhipot
06-28-07, 07:41 AM
Have you guys seen routeslip.com? Pretty cool for logging/finding routes. You can check out a couple of mine. I'm nmanhipot there, also, and you can find a link to my profile on the front page. There's also a guy named dfunkman from Decatur, GA that has posted 178 routes. :eek: I'm trying to figure out who it is because he's got several routes to/from the Velodrome. Hmmmm. . . .

Sif
06-28-07, 06:19 PM
Sounds like it's time for a trailer or a child seat so ALL of you can get in more miles.

theoretically...yes. getting the 12yr old moving is a herculean task. at least she gets in 3-5 mile walks with the dog. i have a seat for the hellion, but it just doesn't work so well for us. soon as she's big enough, i want a tag-along for her. 'sides...hubby and i use our ride time as 'us' time.

rode tonight and got rained on. wasn't too bad. first time i've been caught since riding as a 'grown-up.'

saw lots and lots of folks going down riverside toward willeo. don't know where they turned. wasn't sure if it's a cycleworks or roswell bikes ride. beautiful sight. :D

larryfeltonj
06-28-07, 07:30 PM
*pokes head in and looks around*

helloooo!

i live in roswell...anybody in my neck of the woods? do i see any of you as i ride near the chattahoochee nature center and down azalea drive?

I love your area (the nature center, the trails near the old mill, and the cemetery) , but I haven't cycled there much (I'm an intown, ITP sort of person). I'd be astonished if there aren't group rides in that area, though.

larryfeltonj
06-28-07, 07:57 PM
Hey, all. Just checking in. I grew up in SoCal, where, yes, we still got teased for shaving our legs and wearing spandex. I've been riding most of my life and I commute from Woodstock to Norcross daily down Hwy 92/Alabama Road NE/Woodstock Road/W Crossville Road/E Crossville Road/SR 140/Holcomb Bridge Road (all one road, actually. Thanks, Georgia!). Going over 400 is perhaps the most exhilirating aspect of my commute what with the double-wide suicide turn lanes. I've been commuting since October of '05 after getting back the courage to do it after being broadsided by an F-250 going through a green light in March '04. I Haven't had any collisions since then, but I've had a few incidents and close calls. My commute is 24.5 miles each way and I do it on average 3-days per week. On a good day, it's 90 minutes or less, but the record is 1 hour 14 minutes. I need to start a tally of this but I've probably been honked at 100 times, had one bottle thrown at me, had at least a dozen semis push me into the rain gutter, been screamed at at least two-dozen times and been cut off at least a dozen times. I had one lady pass me and then cut me off to change lanes into a curbed turn lane, which forced me to do a hail-mary slam on the brakes. I had to literally jump up onto the curb to avoid slamming into her car which came to a stop six inches from the curb. She looked at me through her window like, "You dumb ass. Get a car." Like I said when I first got here, "Southern hospitality ends at the curb." Still, I need to ride to keep the weight down, for my sanity sake and to feed my addiction. It gets better over time but two things are still pretty crappy - picking up nails and semis and dump trucks that don't give you enough room when they pass you. I log about 5-6 kilomiles per year, 90% of which is commuting in heavy traffic, but I do other fun stuff like every-once-in-a-while show up at the velodrome and I raced last year but I'm waiting until I'm light and fast enough to win instead of pay $80-90 a weekend, plus fuel, hotel and food to ride in circles without compensation.

This was a really interesting post. I'm mostly an intown cyclist, but since my fiancee lives in south Cobb I cycle there a good bit too. I've always thought that the reputation Atlanta has as a bad place to cycle was a bit exaggerated, as I've cycled in the City of Atlanta, Fulton, Dekalb, Clayton, Henry, and Rockdale
counties, and I'm still alive and reasonably sane.

I'm going to start a thread on "Cycling in the South" on the Advocacy and Safety section in a few days, and I'd love to have you write about comparisons between cycling here and cycling in SoCal.

Pedal Wench
06-29-07, 07:27 AM
Hey PW. Welcome back.
Was there a Sorella "team"?
Got pics?

still sorting pics, but a shot of me and my beau on Independence Pass made the Denver Post! There were a total of three Sorellas - not quite a team, but we were noticed!

Sif
06-29-07, 10:49 AM
I love your area (the nature center, the trails near the old mill, and the cemetery) , but I haven't cycled there much (I'm an intown, ITP sort of person). I'd be astonished if there aren't group rides in that area, though.

there are group rides around here - i know cycleworks runs some...probably roswell bikes does as well.

my schedule just doesn't really allow me to make many of the rides. saw a whole slew of folks last night. i love seeing big packs of riders. :)

Andrew*Debbie
06-30-07, 08:12 PM
I've given up cycle commuting.

I had several close calls last month. On my last ride home, a taxi passed me with maybe an inch to spare as I rode up Clifton. If I had my hands on the outside of the bar ends, he would have touched me. A few seconds later the taxi hit a car on Briarcliff. If I had been just a little farther up the road I would have been hit too. I was shaking so bad I had to get off my bike and walk. I don't know if Atlanta road cyclists are brave or just plain crazy. I do know I can't do it anymore.


I am still committed to trying to live car light. I'm sharing a Miata with Debbie. We turned in our other car and a replacement won't be here until November. Most days she gets the car and I walk or ride Marta.

Map tester
06-30-07, 10:27 PM
You have to do what you feel is right. All of us Atlanta riders know what you are talking about--maybe we are plain crazy. It's good you are still wanting to live car lite. Who know, a bike may someday come back into your life.

RonH
07-01-07, 05:45 AM
I've given up cycle commuting.

I had several close calls last month. On my last ride home, a taxi passed me with maybe an inch to spare as I rode up Clifton.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I think most of us have had our share of close calls. :( I hope you won't give up entirely on bike commuting, but do what you feel you need to do.

georgiaboy
07-01-07, 12:17 PM
I've given up cycle commuting.

I am still committed to trying to live car light. I'm sharing a Miata with Debbie. We turned in our other car and a replacement won't be here until November. Most days she gets the car and I walk or ride Marta.
Like other have said do what' best for you. :beer:
Please stay active in the forum regardless if you commute or not. :beer:

For myself, I don't ride the most direct route to work because I don't ride on certain streets (for instance Briarcliff, it's very narrow). I ride on secondary streets and wide streets.

Other than that, yes, I am crazy. :D