Winter cycling bib tights: with or without chamois

[domestique]

I usually just sport bibs and leg warmers until it gets too cold and the trainer becomes more attractive..... but this winter I want to extend my riding and want to know what most people prefer?

The bib tights in question are DeMarchi Contour Plus bib tight. My problem is should I get the model with the chamois or with out?

If I go without then I can wear my other bibs and may not need to wash the tights everyday. But if I go with the chamois the tights may be more comfortable and they are made with windproof material so I probably wouldn't need the extra insulation that wearing bibs underneath would provide.

thanks in advance!

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[CastIron]

I prefer with chamois. But for the love of God could they add some of that windbloc laminate over the fun bits? If it's cold enough for tights then it's a sure thing the ole' landing gear is gonna retract.

[vrkelley]

+1 on the chamois on the tights instead of having to wear an extra pair of shorts...because it's one less thing to have to struggle in and out of when commuting.

[Hezz]

Depends how cold you want to ride in. The long bibs with chamois by itself will probably only be good down to about 40 degrees F. But it is a good choice if you will have a lot of days riding in those temps. My experience with PA is that they can have some pretty cold winters. And there will be a lot of days a lot colder than 40 degrees so you want something else as well for when its colder.

I find that for me it is more comfortable in the cold of winter to go with a regular short or short bib with a warm tight over that. Also these winter bibs very a lot in how cold you can ride in them depending on the fabric and thickness.