roadwarrior
10-07-06, 04:23 AM
Because he'd surely not have this belief. (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/oct06/oct07news)
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El Diablo Rojo
10-07-06, 04:59 AM
I wonder if his opinion on Floyd would have been different if Axel hadn't ridden with Floyd. Saying Floyd did dope would taint Axel as well, guilt by association. However I do agree with him on the part cycling is most tested sport, hence more people are being caught.
domestique
10-07-06, 05:13 AM
It's not like Merckx can be a strict advocate for anti-doping in cycling when his own past is very questionable.
It seems to me he really steers clear of any open discussions on doping and only makes comments on the testing (how much or that they are trying to get cycling clean). I've never really read anything where he has condemmed another rider for his actions.
It seems to me he really steers clear of any open discussions on doping and only makes comments on the testing (how much or that they are trying to get cycling clean). I've never really read anything where he has condemmed another rider for his actions.
Dolomiti
10-07-06, 01:24 PM
I've never really read anything where he has condemmed another rider for his actions.
That's because they're all innocent! It's just those WADA Nazi's who make false positives so they can keep their jobs :mad:
;)
That's because they're all innocent! It's just those WADA Nazi's who make false positives so they can keep their jobs :mad:
;)
existence-banned
10-07-06, 10:23 PM
why the **** would his opinion count anyway? has he assumed some god like status of all knowing...why would journalists think that his opinion count add anything to the issue.
our opinions dont count and neither does his. in fact his opinion counts for less than even ours as his view is tainted by his sons involvement.
our opinions dont count and neither does his. in fact his opinion counts for less than even ours as his view is tainted by his sons involvement.
existence-banned
10-07-06, 10:24 PM
this is a stupid thread...
VosBike
10-07-06, 10:38 PM
has he assumed some god like status
Well, I mean, he IS eddy Merckx.
But yeah, he's not exactly without interest in this issue
Well, I mean, he IS eddy Merckx.
But yeah, he's not exactly without interest in this issue
roadwarrior
10-08-06, 05:24 AM
this is a stupid thread...
....and you posted on it twice...:p
....and you posted on it twice...:p
existence-banned
10-08-06, 06:20 AM
....and you posted on it twice...:p
oh i didnt exclude myself from part of all this stupidity :)
oh i didnt exclude myself from part of all this stupidity :)
daytonian
10-08-06, 09:31 AM
why the **** would his opinion count anyway? has he assumed some god like status of all knowing...why would journalists think that his opinion count add anything to the issue.
our opinions dont count and neither does his. in fact his opinion counts for less than even ours as his view is tainted by his sons involvement.
+1
I must have missed the part were they mentioned Merkx has a degree in Chemistry and Biology, you know - something other than speculation.
our opinions dont count and neither does his. in fact his opinion counts for less than even ours as his view is tainted by his sons involvement.
+1
I must have missed the part were they mentioned Merkx has a degree in Chemistry and Biology, you know - something other than speculation.
spunky
10-08-06, 11:12 AM
why the **** would his opinion count anyway? has he assumed some god like status of all knowing...why would journalists think that his opinion count add anything to the issue.
our opinions dont count and neither does his. in fact his opinion counts for less than even ours as his view is tainted by his sons involvement.
I think his opinion is valuable. True, it is pure speculation on his part and he admits that because he acknowledges that he wasn't there. One of the main elements of Merckx's character that comes across from reading about him and his racing history, is his steadfast determination (willpower) and devotion to fairness and honesty. Numerous accounts exist, from his racing peers, of Merckx's anger and frustration with his opponents who would cheat and lie to gain advantage. I think, assuming all this is true, it does give his opinion some worth because he is known for being of strong character. I respect his opinions because I believe they come from a solid moral foundation. Also, he's got way more racing experience than most and he personally knows Floyd and has a better grasp on his character than I do.
our opinions dont count and neither does his. in fact his opinion counts for less than even ours as his view is tainted by his sons involvement.
I think his opinion is valuable. True, it is pure speculation on his part and he admits that because he acknowledges that he wasn't there. One of the main elements of Merckx's character that comes across from reading about him and his racing history, is his steadfast determination (willpower) and devotion to fairness and honesty. Numerous accounts exist, from his racing peers, of Merckx's anger and frustration with his opponents who would cheat and lie to gain advantage. I think, assuming all this is true, it does give his opinion some worth because he is known for being of strong character. I respect his opinions because I believe they come from a solid moral foundation. Also, he's got way more racing experience than most and he personally knows Floyd and has a better grasp on his character than I do.
GuitarWizard
10-08-06, 03:08 PM
It's not like Merckx can be a strict advocate for anti-doping in cycling when his own past is very questionable.
And as a result, is in pretty rough shape now (health-wise) from his past....
And as a result, is in pretty rough shape now (health-wise) from his past....
Snicklefritz
10-08-06, 03:12 PM
And as a result, is in pretty rough shape now (health-wise) from his past....
I saw him at Interbike last year and he looked great. Haven't heard or read anything about
health issues. What's up with him these days?
I saw him at Interbike last year and he looked great. Haven't heard or read anything about
health issues. What's up with him these days?
GuitarWizard
10-08-06, 04:45 PM
I saw him at Interbike last year and he looked great. Haven't heard or read anything about
health issues. What's up with him these days?
The guy who did my bike fitting is a personal friend of Eddy's.....
health issues. What's up with him these days?
The guy who did my bike fitting is a personal friend of Eddy's.....
Snicklefritz
10-08-06, 05:03 PM
The guy who did my bike fitting is a personal friend of Eddy's.....
Out of curiosity, what did he say about Eddy's health?
I talked to a women who used to ride pro about 20 years ago and knew of people who took
steroids. She told me that the star rider on her team ended up with bone problems years later as a result. (something about osteoporosis...)
Out of curiosity, what did he say about Eddy's health?
I talked to a women who used to ride pro about 20 years ago and knew of people who took
steroids. She told me that the star rider on her team ended up with bone problems years later as a result. (something about osteoporosis...)
merlinextraligh
10-09-06, 09:24 AM
All I've ever heard about Merckx's health was that he was in pretty lousy shape because he gotten fat and way out of shape until the last year or two, decided to work on it and is now reportedly pretty fit.
Snicklefritz
10-09-06, 09:34 AM
All I've ever heard about Merckx's health was that he was in pretty lousy shape because he gotten fat and way out of shape until the last year or two, decided to work on it and is now reportedly pretty fit.
He looked pretty fit at interbike last year. I also heard that he did a triathlon in israel or somwhere about a year ago and looked good there too.
He looked pretty fit at interbike last year. I also heard that he did a triathlon in israel or somwhere about a year ago and looked good there too.
Vinokurtov
10-09-06, 09:41 AM
I saw him several times this year and he looks healthy, for whatever that's worth.
Phatman
10-09-06, 04:35 PM
I've never really read anything where he has condemmed another rider for his actions.
maybe because he's got class?
maybe because he's got class?