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wethepeople
10-10-06, 09:56 PM
How do I find out iof a site is cancelled or something?
I spent a looonnnnggg time on a forum called ricecop, but now it's down, has been for the last few days. All I get is:
Server not found
Firefox can't find the server at www.ricecopforums.com.
* Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com
* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.
* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
Everybody else I talk to on the forum cant get on either. Is there a way one of you could figure out if the domain has been cancelled or something?
Thank you.
wethepeople
10-10-06, 10:31 PM
Nevermind, after like 5 days of it being down, it's back up.
SaabFan
10-11-06, 05:37 AM
It's "gurus" without an apostophe!
Unless you were talking about something owned by an internet guru.
Tom Stormcrowe
10-11-06, 10:36 AM
Nevermind, after like 5 days of it being down, it's back up.
They probably had a bunch of php code corruption on their servers or they may have been migrating to another server!
They had problems updating Apache and it would not reload. It took several days to get another hard drive and install the NOS on it.
Where is mechBgon or King termite heh:D
chipcom
10-11-06, 11:35 AM
No problem, glad to be of help. Yes, us real gurus fix things before we even know they are broke! :D
superdex
10-11-06, 11:59 AM
shhh, chipcom, don't share our secrets!
Although the problem's resolved, there are a few things you can do in the future to troubleshoot connectivity issues to a specific site.
Check with pings and/or traceroutes to the machine. If DNS is messed up then use the IP address. Traceroutes should tell you if there's a routing problem.
% traceroute www.ricecopforums.com
traceroute to ricecopforums.com (69.93.86.131), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
[HOPS OMITTED]
4 ge-5-0-102.hsa2.Seattle1.Level3.net (209.247.88.57) 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms
5 ae-2-52.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.33) 20 ms 16 ms ae-2-56.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.161) 36 ms
6 ae-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (64.159.1.110) 67 ms as-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.11.22) 51 ms 61 ms
7 ae-24-54.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.112) 74 ms ae-24-52.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.48) 62 ms ae-24-56.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.176) 62 ms
8 4.78.220.10 (4.78.220.10) 61 ms THE-PLANET.car4.Level3.net (4.78.221.146) 57 ms 4.78.224.14 (4.78.224.14) 56 ms
9 te9-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.30) 57 ms te7-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.26) 63 ms te9-2.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.14) 63 ms
10 vl21.dsr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.67) 71 ms vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.76) 63 ms 68 ms
11 vl2.asr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.58) 60 ms 64 ms 55 ms
12 gi0-2.car14.dllstx2.theplanet.com (69.41.250.70) 61 ms 67 ms 56 ms
13 ns2.rcphosting.com (69.93.86.131) 66 ms 58 ms 137 ms
Check with the whois database to see if the domain has been withdrawn/locked/expired/whatever. If they're truly gone then the registrar will probably have removed their entry or flagged it as locked.
% whois ricecopforums.com
The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In particular,
you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.
Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.
Registrant:
The Trooper
P.O. Box 11
Penfield, New York 14526
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: RICECOPFORUMS.COM
Created on: 24-Jun-02
Expires on: 24-Jun-07
Last Updated on: 07-Dec-05
Administrative Contact:
Trooper, The trooper@ricecop.com
P.O. Box 11
Penfield, New York 14526
United States
5855551234 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Trooper, The trooper@ricecop.com
P.O. Box 11
Penfield, New York 14526
United States
5855551234 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RCPHOSTING.COM
NS2.RCPHOSTING.COM
Check DNS resolution. Sometimes someone (them, their provider, the registrar) may have misconfigured or messed up the DNS entry for the domain or the site itself. Look for a valid A (and maybe even PTR) record.
% dig www.ricecopforums.com
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> www.ricecopforums.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1496
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.ricecopforums.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.ricecopforums.com. 13911 IN CNAME ricecopforums.com.
ricecopforums.com. 13911 IN A 69.93.86.131
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ricecopforums.com. 172311 IN NS ns2.rcphosting.com.
ricecopforums.com. 172311 IN NS ns1.rcphosting.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.rcphosting.com. 172311 IN A 69.93.86.130
ns2.rcphosting.com. 172311 IN A 69.93.86.131
;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 11 11:00:34 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 148
% dig -x 69.93.86.131
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> -x 69.93.86.131
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1081
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 12
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;131.86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
131.86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. 85907 IN PTR ns2.rcphosting.com.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. 85907 IN NS ns1.theplanet.com.
86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. 85907 IN NS ns2.theplanet.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.134
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.70
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.71
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.228
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.229
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.133
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.136
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.72
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.73
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.230
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.231
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.135
;; Query time: 17 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 11 11:00:54 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 313
You might even check their SOA to be sure all is kosher there.
% dig ricecopforums.com soa
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> ricecopforums.com soa
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 367
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ricecopforums.com. IN SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
ricecopforums.com. 14382 IN SOA ns1.rcphosting.com. scourge.rochester.rr.com. 2004041101 14400 7200 3600000 86400
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ricecopforums.com. 14382 IN NS ns2.rcphosting.com.
ricecopforums.com. 14382 IN NS ns1.rcphosting.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.rcphosting.com. 172228 IN A 69.93.86.130
ns2.rcphosting.com. 172228 IN A 69.93.86.131
;; Query time: 5 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 11 11:01:57 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 171
And finally, just to rule out a broken browser, you might even want to check using raw HTTP.
% telnet www.ricecopforums.com 80
Trying 69.93.86.131...
Connected to ricecopforums.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:04:59 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.4.4 mod_ssl/2.8.28 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.4
Set-Cookie: bbsessionhash=31ca66b6103b86686c474fc3cd113886; path=/; domain=.ricecopforums.com; HttpOnly
Set-Cookie: bblastvisit=1160589899; expires=Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:04:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.ricecopforums.com
Set-Cookie: bblastactivity=0; expires=Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:04:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.ricecopforums.com
Expires: 0
Cache-Control: private, post-check=0, pre-check=0, max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Connection closed by foreign host.
All of the above should tell you if the machine and network connectivity is good. If there are still problems then it's all content-related.
No problem, glad to be of help. Yes, us real gurus fix things before we even know they are broke! :D
Based on this then, I am an anti-guru. I break things before I even know they were fixed.
chipcom
10-11-06, 01:16 PM
Although the problem's resolved, there are a few things you can do in the future to troubleshoot connectivity issues to a specific site.
Check with pings and/or traceroutes to the machine.
You do realize that most folks' eyes glazed over and they started checking the news sites at about this point in your post, don't you? Related to another thread...that is something I learned when babysitting executives and their minions in the corporate ivory tower...if you can't say it in one simple sentence, with no techie jargon, preferably with pretty pictures and graphs, their minds go to the mush state. :eek: :D
chipcom
10-11-06, 01:17 PM
Based on this then, I am an anti-guru. I break things before I even know they were fixed.
Dude, you're good. All hail the anti-guru...we're not worthy!!
SaabFan
10-11-06, 01:18 PM
Based on this then, I am an anti-guru. I break things before I even know they were fixed.
Being on the consulting side of the business, I install secret switches at all of my clients with two positions: working and broken. The "working" position ensures that I look impressive when onsite, and the "broken" position ensures that they will ask me to come back in the future.
superdex
10-11-06, 01:23 PM
And now we see why Khuon didn't work out so well as a manager. Too much attention to detail ;)
Although the problem's resolved, there are a few things you can do in the future to troubleshoot connectivity issues to a specific site.
Check with pings and/or traceroutes to the machine. If DNS is messed up then use the IP address. Traceroutes should tell you if there's a routing problem.
% traceroute www.ricecopforums.com
traceroute to ricecopforums.com (69.93.86.131), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
[HOPS OMITTED]
4 ge-5-0-102.hsa2.Seattle1.Level3.net (209.247.88.57) 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms
5 ae-2-52.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.33) 20 ms 16 ms ae-2-56.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.161) 36 ms
6 ae-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (64.159.1.110) 67 ms as-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.11.22) 51 ms 61 ms
7 ae-24-54.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.112) 74 ms ae-24-52.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.48) 62 ms ae-24-56.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.176) 62 ms
8 4.78.220.10 (4.78.220.10) 61 ms THE-PLANET.car4.Level3.net (4.78.221.146) 57 ms 4.78.224.14 (4.78.224.14) 56 ms
9 te9-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.30) 57 ms te7-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.26) 63 ms te9-2.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.14) 63 ms
10 vl21.dsr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.67) 71 ms vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.76) 63 ms 68 ms
11 vl2.asr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.58) 60 ms 64 ms 55 ms
12 gi0-2.car14.dllstx2.theplanet.com (69.41.250.70) 61 ms 67 ms 56 ms
13 ns2.rcphosting.com (69.93.86.131) 66 ms 58 ms 137 ms
Check with the whois database to see if the domain has been withdrawn/locked/expired/whatever. If they're truly gone then the registrar will probably have removed their entry or flagged it as locked.
% whois ricecopforums.com
The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In particular,
you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.
Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.
Registrant:
The Trooper
P.O. Box 11
Penfield, New York 14526
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: RICECOPFORUMS.COM
Created on: 24-Jun-02
Expires on: 24-Jun-07
Last Updated on: 07-Dec-05
Administrative Contact:
Trooper, The trooper@ricecop.com
P.O. Box 11
Penfield, New York 14526
United States
5855551234 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Trooper, The trooper@ricecop.com
P.O. Box 11
Penfield, New York 14526
United States
5855551234 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RCPHOSTING.COM
NS2.RCPHOSTING.COM
Check DNS resolution. Sometimes someone (them, their provider, the registrar) may have misconfigured or messed up the DNS entry for the domain or the site itself. Look for a valid A (and maybe even PTR) record.
% dig www.ricecopforums.com
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> www.ricecopforums.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1496
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.ricecopforums.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.ricecopforums.com. 13911 IN CNAME ricecopforums.com.
ricecopforums.com. 13911 IN A 69.93.86.131
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ricecopforums.com. 172311 IN NS ns2.rcphosting.com.
ricecopforums.com. 172311 IN NS ns1.rcphosting.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.rcphosting.com. 172311 IN A 69.93.86.130
ns2.rcphosting.com. 172311 IN A 69.93.86.131
;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 11 11:00:34 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 148
% dig -x 69.93.86.131
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> -x 69.93.86.131
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1081
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 12
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;131.86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
131.86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. 85907 IN PTR ns2.rcphosting.com.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. 85907 IN NS ns1.theplanet.com.
86.93.69.in-addr.arpa. 85907 IN NS ns2.theplanet.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.134
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.70
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.71
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.228
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.229
ns1.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.133
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.136
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.72
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.87.7.73
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.230
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 207.44.128.231
ns2.theplanet.com. 8202 IN A 70.86.61.135
;; Query time: 17 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 11 11:00:54 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 313
You might even check their SOA to be sure all is kosher there.
% dig ricecopforums.com soa
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> ricecopforums.com soa
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 367
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ricecopforums.com. IN SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
ricecopforums.com. 14382 IN SOA ns1.rcphosting.com. scourge.rochester.rr.com. 2004041101 14400 7200 3600000 86400
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ricecopforums.com. 14382 IN NS ns2.rcphosting.com.
ricecopforums.com. 14382 IN NS ns1.rcphosting.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.rcphosting.com. 172228 IN A 69.93.86.130
ns2.rcphosting.com. 172228 IN A 69.93.86.131
;; Query time: 5 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 11 11:01:57 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 171
And finally, just to rule out a broken browser, you might even want to check using raw HTTP.
% telnet www.ricecopforums.com 80
Trying 69.93.86.131...
Connected to ricecopforums.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:04:59 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.4.4 mod_ssl/2.8.28 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.4
Set-Cookie: bbsessionhash=31ca66b6103b86686c474fc3cd113886; path=/; domain=.ricecopforums.com; HttpOnly
Set-Cookie: bblastvisit=1160589899; expires=Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:04:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.ricecopforums.com
Set-Cookie: bblastactivity=0; expires=Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:04:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.ricecopforums.com
Expires: 0
Cache-Control: private, post-check=0, pre-check=0, max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Connection closed by foreign host.
All of the above should tell you if the machine and network connectivity is good. If there are still problems then it's all content-related.
And now we see why Khuon didn't work out so well as a manager. Too much attention to detail ;)
I won't deny either of those two points. :D
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