Commuting - Good do it all road frame?

What are your good do it all road frames? I'm talking frames that allow for fenders and 28 or 32 tires - have rack and fender eyelets, provide a comfy ride, but are more road frames than touring bikes.

Two on my list:
soma smoothie es
surly pacer

Any others? Any pre-built?

Surly Cross Check comes as a built bike I also like this one by giant as well

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/images/_upload_us/bikes/models/previews/2007/OCR-1.jpg

Not to sure what fenders and tyres it can run

Some of Konas stuff is cool to

Like the Kona Smoke

http://www.konaworld.com/Prod/000000344/2K6_SMOKE_650.jpg

edit: since I took the OP's definition of "road" to mean "takes caliper brakes", here is my list. There are a zillion bikes and frames that take/use cantilever and V brakes that would fit the bill.

Salsa Casseroll (http://www.salsacycles.com/07_frames_preview.html) - out in the spring.
Salsa La Raza one set of eyelets, less clearance
Gunnar Sport - one set of eyelets - takes long reach brakes and fenders - no clearance claims on their site
any of Rivendell's road offerings
Kogswell model P
Mercian makes several very nice stock frames that would work
so does Thorn - (sjscycles.co.uk)

Pre-built I think Trek (the Pilot?) and Giant (TCR-something *edit - OCR apparently) both have road models that will take racks and fenders.

What are your good do it all road frames? I'm talking frames that allow for fenders and 28 or 32 tires - have rack and fender eyelets, provide a comfy ride, but are more road frames than touring bikes.

Two on my list:
soma smoothie es
surly pacer

Any others? Any pre-built?

How about like the Giant OCR, Cannondale SR (sport road?), Specialized Sequoia, etc? These are comfort-oriented road bikes, generally with eyelets and long-reach brakes, but the weight and geometry is more "roadie" than "tourist"...

There's a guy across the street that rides in every day on a Cannondale SR with full fenders... don't know the tire width. Looks like a nice ride; I'm sure it's lighter than my OCR Touring tank.

allow me to include the obligatory plug for jamis aurora!

http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/06_aurora.html

http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/images/06_enlarged/06_AURORA.jpg

Jamis Aurora
Bianchi Volpe
Kona Jake and Jake the Snake

All bikes that were on my list. I bought the Jake.

I also got to try on the Gunnar Sport this past weekend, which was pretty dreamy. Clearance and eyelets were a plus.

What are your good do it all road frames? I'm talking frames that allow for fenders and 28 or 32 tires - have rack and fender eyelets, provide a comfy ride, but are more road frames than touring bikes.

Any others? Any pre-built?

The Kogswell P/R is a nice, all-purpose bike. Yes, you do have to get 650B wheels. But if you ask folks who've ridden 650Bs, they'll tell you that the comfort can't be beat.

The package included frame, fork and fenders and there are racks in the works.

Here's a finished production bike:

http://kogswell.com/images/PRsmall.gif

And here's one being assembled with a prototype rack:

http://kogswell.com/images/joelB.gif

I'm partial to my steel frame Japanese road bike. (seen here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=230776))

I need to add pictures - I've added panniers and more lighting. Does a great job for my aprox. 1hr long commute.

My 1980ish Fuji S12-S fits the bill for me. I'm pretty sure the OP was looking for new offerings, but there are lots of older steel bikes and frames out there that can be made into great bikes.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/GonzoDawg/th_dairystop.jpg (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/GonzoDawg/dairystop.jpg)

zero issues with my '06 Jake- not a strict road frame per se, but good choice for a commuter nevertheless

An older Motobecane Grand Jubile or Austro Daimler Olympian have what you are looking for, Fender clearance, take big tires if you want & they have eyelets. (edit oops-AD only has eyelets on rear dropouts)edit

My vote would be for the Soma Smoothie ES ($500 for frame & fork) check it out at http://www.somafab.com/extrasmoothie.html

This one was especially helpful...


edit: since I took the OP's definition of "road" to mean "takes caliper brakes", here is my list. There are a zillion bikes and frames that take/use cantilever and V brakes that would fit the bill.

Salsa Casseroll (http://www.salsacycles.com/07_frames_preview.html) - out in the spring.
Salsa La Raza one set of eyelets, less clearance
Gunnar Sport - one set of eyelets - takes long reach brakes and fenders - no clearance claims on their site
any of Rivendell's road offerings
Kogswell model P
Mercian makes several very nice stock frames that would work
so does Thorn - (sjscycles.co.uk)

Pre-built I think Trek (the Pilot?) and Giant (TCR-something *edit - OCR apparently) both have road models that will take racks and fenders.

Yeah, I was thinking of a road bike - as in not a cross bike, w/ the high bb and cantis, and mtb slack head angles. The x-check and volpe may be the exceptions to this, as they are sort of a cross between a cross bike and a road bike.

Specialized Tricross frame. Full (yes, front and rear) rack and fender eyelets. Tires up to 38c will fit. But, it uses cantilevers not sidepull caliper brakes...

I was thinking of a road bike - as in not a cross bike, w/ the high bb and cantis, and mtb slack head angles. The x-check and volpe may be the exceptions to this, as they are sort of a cross between a cross bike and a road bike.

I have a Cross Check set up singlespeed and it's pretty slack, but not in a bad way.

If I were in the market today I might very well hold out for a Casseroll.

Any vintage Trek from 1977 to 1984. Can be sourced on Craigslist and Ebay. Anywhere from cheap to $300for a really clean example. I run 32 mm Schwalbe Marathon tires on mine (27x1 1/4) bike rides like a dream, easy to maintain, I have full fenders and rack and the bike takes a pounding well. I am 6'1" 185 and I ride on a cinder covered dirt path and city streets. I also use a set of moustache bars and bar end shifters.

Giant Touring OCR.

Are all (rear) horizontal dropouts forward facing? I guess that makes the most sense.

I just got back from the grocery store. Here is my La Raza earning its keep.

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictures/Bike/Trailer.jpg

--A