Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - conversion calamaty!!!!1

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endeverleverone
10-16-06, 10:22 AM
so i bought this 3spd beater (real tuff steel) raleigh roadie, from this guy , so i could do meesenger work on a solid bike. after 2 days the rear cog failed and would spin without the hub.

so i would pedal and the force would spin the cog, not the wheel. weird as ****.right?

i bring it back to him, he switches it up for a another 3spd, and we decide to get a new hub/rim and make it fixed.


so he did. my first fixie. road the **** out of it for one day (yesterday) , and just when i was getting the hang of a coast less rearbrakeless existens, as i put the first hard force against a downhill momentum, and it faied. the rear cog was unfixed from the hub. only a little at first. i was able to ride home. but it would pregressively slip worse and worse. the bike is unridable now.

i dont feel as this is a regular thing with conversions converted proper. any ideas what was installed less than adequately? or what part i might be missing?


baxtefer
10-16-06, 10:26 AM
you stripped your hub due to poor installation.

isotopesope
10-16-06, 10:29 AM
or it's not a true track hub... it's probably just a road hub without the threading for a reverse threaded lockring. in that case, use your brake to slow down as you ride to the shop to shove that wheel up your pal's arse.


Falkon
10-16-06, 10:39 AM
cheap even for a suicide hub job. Order a suzue track hub. They're cheap, but they will at least stay together better than what you have.

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 10:41 AM
iis it possible to repair the damaged hub?
would i need a new hub and relace the same wheel?

what would make more sense, since at this point im almost pissed and i have to fix the bike

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 10:44 AM
any ideas what particular aspect of the build was made incorrectly since it happened exactly the same on the 3spd hub?

"have to fix the bike" pun intended.

Red Riding Hood
10-16-06, 10:47 AM
Buy a new true track wheelset and you shouldn't have this problem.. Don't buy from that guy again either, get your money back or get him to sell you a wheel for the difference.. haha.. I don't know, that's pretty rare that it happened twice in a row, it must be a real ****ty job that guy is doing.

LóFarkas
10-16-06, 10:49 AM
Your description is not accurate enough.

-No idea what happened to the 3spd. (That means a hub gear, right? Don't know about those.)

-The fixed hub most likely is a "suicide hub", ie a threaded freewheel hub with a track cog spun on. The cog prolly just unthreaded from it. No damage done if you're lucky, you just have to tighten it down super hard. Do inspect the threads and see if they're damaged. You can run a suicide, but a track hub is preferable, of course.

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 10:52 AM
i dont want to bother with the guy over this bike , i got the whole thing for 60$ and he replaced everything (that failed) for free.

taking it to someone with a clue seems like the way out.

or just ordering a wheelset. i have a 16 tooth track cog. any recomendations for the finest/cheapest rear trak wheel/hub??

bonechilling
10-16-06, 10:56 AM
http://shop.greatdealsonbikes.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GDOB&Product_Code=TR01&Category_Code=TR

There you go.

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 10:59 AM
hmm thats funny that its 2wice as expensive than the whole bike.

dirtyphotons
10-16-06, 11:13 AM
pays for itself on the first avoided hospital visit

isotopesope
10-16-06, 11:16 AM
the 3 speed wheel is probably a totally different issue. if you're pedaling forward and the 3 speed wheel just spins without engaging, you either need to adjust the shift cable, or the pawls are worn out and the hub needs replaced.

chucksbikes.com is selling a formula hub/mavic cxp22 track wheelset for 165, which is a good deal.

Aeroplane
10-16-06, 11:22 AM
hmm thats funny that its 2wice as expensive than the whole bike.
... which broke twice already. Disposable wheels are cheap in the short run, I guess.

mattface
10-16-06, 11:27 AM
if you want the cheapest reliable solution put on a single speed freewheel and be done with it.

If you want a reliable fixed gear, spend the money for a good rear wheel. If you plan to ride this bike for hours every day (which I assume most meesengers do) it doesn't pay to cheap out too much. You don't need top of the line necessarily, but you do need to spend a few bucks to get good reliable stuff. Broken bike=lost time=lost income. No?

isotopesope
10-16-06, 12:57 PM
lolzers u r all stupid
can this toilet be banned yet?

Red Riding Hood
10-16-06, 01:18 PM
if you want the cheapest reliable solution put on a single speed freewheel and be done with it.

If you want a reliable fixed gear, spend the money for a good rear wheel. If you plan to ride this bike for hours every day (which I assume most meesengers do) it doesn't pay to cheap out too much. You don't need top of the line necessarily, but you do need to spend a few bucks to get good reliable stuff. Broken bike=lost time=lost income. No?

The "meesengers" part got me giggling aloud at work. Like a goose and a messenger put together. Glad someone caught that. :D

What a goose.

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 03:19 PM
yea, i need a track hub. i was reluctant to do that since the bike is a rusted beater. there arent to many bike shops around here with track parts in so its hard to find a decent mechanic to work on the conversion since fixed is not the new bubble gum in miami ....not yet i guess.

theres one spot way out north im going to check out. maybe i can find a decent used track hub.

i just got my other bike stolen so i cant even go cooorier tomorrow. how sad.

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 03:24 PM
this is the guy`s site who worked on the bike, (mine is the 6th one down)

http://www.jaysmarine.com/BDC_inven.html

isotopesope
10-16-06, 03:36 PM
your link works about as well as your two wheels. maybe it's time to take the short bus to your new cash register job?

Falkon
10-16-06, 03:39 PM
^^^ that was harsh!

Retem
10-16-06, 03:41 PM
if you still have the three speed jb weld the first gear and then you will have a two speed fix instructions on the web google it

eddiebrannan
10-16-06, 03:43 PM
yea, i need a track hub. i was reluctant to do that since the bike is a rusted beater. there arent to many bike shops around here with track parts in so its hard to find a decent mechanic to work on the conversion since fixed is not the new bubble gum in miami ....not yet i guess.

theres one spot way out north im going to check out. maybe i can find a decent used track hub.

i just got my other bike stolen so i cant even go cooorier tomorrow. how sad.


business cycles is in miami. they will have everything you need

http://www.businesscycles.com/

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 03:45 PM
the link works fine over here. maybe your not clicking hard enough?

http://www.jaysmarine.com/BDC_inven.html

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 03:46 PM
ive never heard of buisness cycles... ive heard of "broken spoke" but they arent picking up their phone.

eddiebrannan
10-16-06, 03:48 PM
well click the link

eddiebrannan
10-16-06, 03:51 PM
professional quality track and road bicycles
9620 S.W. 77th Avenue, Miami, Florida 33156 Telephone 305-273-4440

endeverleverone
10-16-06, 03:54 PM
yea, i just called. they close in 5 minutes. i suppose ill show up tomorow.

sivat
10-16-06, 09:20 PM
The nice thing about getting a decent wheelset, even if it costs 4 times as much as the bike, is that you know it will work and stay true, and when you decided to get a better frame, you know the wheels will be up for it when you swap them over.

endeverleverone
10-17-06, 11:40 AM
yes, tru. im looking around for a good deal.

eddiebrannan
10-17-06, 05:31 PM
post a thread asking for that periodic good deal on the web. about $120 for a decent basic wheelset. can't really be beat

manboy
10-18-06, 08:02 PM
I don't know what a 3-speed Shimano hub was doing on that bike in the first place, but it was probably just improperly lubed/adjusted.

Don't worry about putting too-nice wheels on there. Those bikes are pretty and solid, even if they are on the heavy side.