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Katzenjammer
 
Do they do good work? Where would you place them in the pantheon?


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datenschwanz
 
i can chime in here. i own two currently, and have owned one other that i sold off because it was too small.

the two i own now are magnificent. one is a fillet brazed 853 road bike and the other is a lugged 631 fixed gear road bike with paul's components track ends brazed into it.

the quality is superb. the price is surprising. i've owned a handful of waterfords, some custom, some not and i've had a few basso/battaglin/olmo/bianchis.

the jacksons are as nice as any of the italian ones i've had.

if you want to see a whole mess of them, check out dennis stone at stones cyclery in alameda, ca 10 minutes from san francisco next to oakland.

i can send you some pics if you're interested.

cheers.


cyclintom
 
Bob Jackson's range from good to great. You need to be careful since the older versions were set up for 27" wheels and long reach brakes which are essentially unavailable these days.

By the way, I think I have a set of 27" wheels with Campy Record hubs spoked up to MA-40 rims somewhere.


MichaelW
 
The period when they were out of BJs ownership (late 1980s, early 1990s) has some quality issues that BJ solved when he took back the company in about 1993. I have a 95 version that is very good.

I have compared my BJ to a Waterford tourer (both companies are of a similar size). The Waterford had better looking braze work with a very crisp finish. The BJ had better paintwork.


Katzenjammer
 
wow. I'd given up checking on this thread, it went so long without a response.

So it sounds like I've no worries if I want to have them do me a frame (they're the only ones willing to build a mixte, that I've found).

Thanks!


acorn_user
 
wow. I'd given up checking on this thread, it went so long without a response.

So it sounds like I've no worries if I want to have them do me a frame (they're the only ones willing to build a mixte, that I've found).

Thanks!

I bet some of the other English makers would oblige. Mercian are pretty famous in the US too, but there are some lesser known frame builders. Robin Mather has a good reputation, and my wife is ecstatic with her Vernon Barker (although the paint finish is not standing up to the appalling bike racks we have in Virginia). Dave Yates is another popular one, especially amongst the audax crowd. There a plenty more!


Katzenjammer
 
Mercian were the first ones I thought of, but they no longer do mixtes. The reason they give is that Reynolds are no longer making the long tubing for the lateral stays. I'd have thought Mercian could piece the shorter lengths, but perhaps that's my ignorance showing.

I'll have a look at the others you mention, thanks! I'm desperately trying to resist the growing sense that, by the time I finish building up an older mixte frame I'll have spent nearly the same money and still won't have a bike that completely suits.


BIG EEE
 
Yes the Bob Jackson always has a great finish, i know i worked in the paint shop for 7 years with a guy that is still there doing great work, although i have moved on i still look at every Jackson i see and wonder if i finished it off. I was there during the late 80s period when you say the quality dropped, well i was there, who told you it dropped? it was the same guys doing the work b4 , during , and after the little take over episode. The only thing that may have dropped is the customer service because of the idiots running it at that time, they were not into bikes or cycling, no idea, and they were not good at buisness either.


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