Removing on-street parking from both sides of half a mile of street would cost about two million dollars in parking garage construction, and it would be less convenient to many of the patrons.
Steve,

You are wasting electrons trying to explain the real world to cloistered provincials with a "just do it" solution to car parking problems in urban areas.

What's worse than a door zone? How about a "bumper zone" where you are directed to bike inches in front of outfacing vehicles, many of which have tinted windows and some, as you can see in the photo, don't quite fit into the allotted space. This is not an anomaly -- there's one or two vehicles parked like this every day on Harbor drive.

BTW, this was just taken yesterday (10/24/06)

What's worse than a door zone? How about a "bumper zone" where you are directed to bike inches in front of outfacing vehicles, many of which have tinted windows and some, as you can see in the photo, don't quite fit into the allotted space. This is not an anomaly -- there's one or two vehicles parked like this every day on Harbor drive.

BTW, this was just taken yesterday (10/24/06)
Are you sure this is a BL? Signs? Painted icons in lane?
Al

Are you sure this is a BL? Signs? Painted icons in lane?
AlYes. Signage, but few icons since the road is frequently torn up and apparently the stencil guys are never told to come back.

Are you sure this is a BL? Signs? Painted icons in lane?
Al

:roflmao:

I heard that with time and the effects of weather, bike lanes do tend to shrink quite a bit.

Are you sure this is a BL? Signs? Painted icons in lane?
Al

Speaking of painted icons in the lane... and of standard width bike lanes...

Why is it that the morons that come up with the widths of bike lanes don't realize the BL is too narrow when the stencil they are using doesn't even fit between the lines? I see this from time to time, with the resultant bike lane being somewhere around about 3 feet wide, with the BL stencil clearly clipped on either edge. Is this not a clue to those morons?

:roflmao:

I heard that with time and the effects of weather, bike lanes do tend to shrink quite a bit.

Warm, balmy summer nighttime rains, hot summer days to dry it out...of course you'll get some shrinkage. Too bad they're not shrink to fit!

Speaking of painted icons in the lane... and of standard width bike lanes...

Why is it that the morons that come up with the widths of bike lanes don't realize the BL is too narrow when the stencil they are using doesn't even fit between the lines? I see this from time to time, with the resultant bike lane being somewhere around about 3 feet wide, with the BL stencil clearly clipped on either edge. Is this not a clue to those morons?
I've got pictures of that too somewhere. This is the other problem with BLs -- implementation. The people who write the functional requirements for bike lanes (like the California Highway design manual) carefully spec. out exactly how wide the Bl should be, adding in different compensating factors depending on width of gutter, roadway edge, etc.

The people who run the paint trucks have never seen that manual.

I've got pictures of that too somewhere. This is the other problem with BLs -- implementation. The people who write the functional requirements for bike lanes (like the California Highway design manual) carefully spec. out exactly how wide the Bl should be, adding in different compensating factors depending on width of gutter, roadway edge, etc.

The people who run the paint trucks have never seen that manual.
Problem is many so called cycling advocates are willing participants in this - in fact you can't blame the folks who implement it. Many 'cycling advocates' would rather accept a sub-standard* even at the expense of safety and common sense, than have no BL stripe at all.

*sub-standard is technically not accurate as some of these are sub-AASHTO guidelines, but some meet that guideline, but are still 'bad' even as rated by 'progressive' BL proponents.

Al

Problem is many so called cycling advocates are willing participants in this - in fact you can't blame the folks who implement it. Many 'cycling advocates' would rather accept a sub-standard* even at the expense of safety and common sense, than have no BL stripe at all.

*sub-standard is technically not accurate as some of these are sub-AASHTO guidelines, but some meet that guideline, but are still 'bad' even as rated by 'progressive' BL proponents.

Al

Obviously these BL really exacerbate the potential issues of driver harrasment, as the cyclist now finds these BL unridable, and then moves to the narrow lane and then is confronted by the motorist that believes that the cyclist SHOULD be in the BL. Sigh...