Framebuilders - where to start

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I'm nowhere near ready to start building frames, but I would like to learn a little bit about the craft. Can anyone point me to books, websites, or other resources on frame building?
I'll be taking some welding and machining classes soon and I think frame building would be a nice project/side effect of knowing how to work with metal.
Thanks for your time!
cmh
linux_author
10-23-06, 06:25 PM
here (http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=27186191748&d=single&c=Books-Videos&sc=Frame-Building&tc=&item_id=YPT-FBG2) and here? (http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=27186191748&d=single&c=Books-Videos&sc=Frame-Building&tc=&item_id=YPT-FVID3)
Nessism
10-23-06, 09:07 PM
http://www.frameforum.net/forum2/index.php?
http://search.bikelist.org/query.asp?SearchString=&pg=1&showform=true
http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html
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