Commuting - Don't run a light with the pigs behind ya!

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slvoid
10-27-06, 08:03 AM
Going to work this morning, queens blvd is all backed up, cars are literally at a stand still, and of course no one wants to get caught at the intersection when the light changes, so people leave a little bit of a gap before they enter the intersection.
This moron in a corvette decides to run the light and snake through the gap (thus saving him a whopping 30-45 seconds). Just as he makes it halfway through the traffic, *WHOOP WHOOP!*. The black ford crown vic behind him flashes its sirens. I did stop for a bit and watch the cops take their sweet time getting out of their car and walking over to the guy.


ModoVincere
10-27-06, 08:12 AM
run light :eek: cops nab :D

kylecrispin
10-27-06, 08:16 AM
I'm glad the guy was in a vette and not on a bike.


icedmocha
10-27-06, 08:28 AM
I LOVE being able to hop off my bike and push it through a red. I have a few ong lights near me.

MMACH 5
10-27-06, 08:36 AM
I LOVE being able to hop off my bike and push it through a red. I have a few ong lights near me.

Do they fine you less for jay-walking than they do for running a red light?:rolleyes:

jyossarian
10-27-06, 08:39 AM
I thought this was gonna be about slvoid getting pulled over for running a red.

oboeguy
10-27-06, 08:56 AM
I thought this was gonna be about slvoid getting pulled over for running a red.

No kidding, I'm disappointed. I was wondering if they'd find the Glock stuffed in his bibs. ;)

Scorer75
10-27-06, 09:48 AM
Do bikers in NY stop for red lights?

I'm sorry if this offends any of you, but I treat red lights on a bike as a stop sign.

vrkelley
10-27-06, 10:04 AM
Going to work this morning, queens blvd is all backed up, cars are literally at a stand still, and of course no one wants to get caught at the intersection when the light changes, so people leave a little bit of a gap before they enter the intersection.
This moron in a corvette decides to run the light and snake through the gap (thus saving him a whopping 30-45 seconds). Just as he makes it halfway through the traffic, *WHOOP WHOOP!*. The black ford crown vic behind him flashes its sirens. I did stop for a bit and watch the cops take their sweet time getting out of their car and walking over to the guy.


Best storry of the week! Seattle Cops could make ton of easy money following that example. It's way easier than chasing crack-heads, puts money in the dpt cookie jar, saves gas

legot73
10-27-06, 10:35 AM
Stories like this make me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Mchaz
10-27-06, 12:12 PM
No kidding, I'm disappointed. I was wondering if they'd find the Glock stuffed in his bibs. ;)

Don't forget the J.D.'s ;)

mihlbach
10-27-06, 04:46 PM
Do bikers in NY stop for red lights?

I'm sorry if this offends any of you, but I treat red lights on a bike as a stop sign.

I think most NYC cyclists treat red lights as green lights...

sukram
10-27-06, 04:53 PM
Do bikers in NY stop for red lights?

I'm sorry if this offends any of you, but I treat red lights on a bike as a stop sign.

I do. Then I start again.

Seriously, it all depends on where I am and what cross traffic looks like. I don't have a death wish and I don't have super powers like messengers or those delivery guys. I'm just a plucky dumb [fill in the blank].

banerjek
10-27-06, 05:45 PM
My favorite experience with the police was actually in a car. We were following a cop on a 2 lane road doing 55. Because most of the drivers on that road go considerably faster, I was soon at the front of a line of about 15 cars.

Some guy in a camaro decided to take the entire line. I watched him in my rearview mirror as he accelerated rapidly with the throttle wide open. Just as he was passing the car behind me (he was easily doing 100+ by this time), he realized that the car at the front was a cop. He hit the brakes to slow down to the speed limit -- it looked like he may have been down to about 90 by the time he cleared the patrol car which had already lit up.... :D

mastershake916
10-27-06, 05:51 PM
Do bikers in NY stop for red lights?

I'm sorry if this offends any of you, but I treat red lights on a bike as a stop sign.
it was either NY or SF, but I watched this one thing on a bicycle messenger that's just crazy.
Eventually I might end up like that also, but then it was just shocking.

marqueemoon
10-27-06, 06:20 PM
I'm glad the guy was in a vette and not on a bike.

I've seen that too.

2manybikes
10-27-06, 06:32 PM
I thought this was gonna be about slvoid getting pulled over for running a red.


That's tomorrow. :D

vrkelley
10-27-06, 07:07 PM
I thought this was gonna be about slvoid getting pulled over for running a red.

Neva!!!!!!!!!

slvoid
10-27-06, 10:59 PM
I think most cyclists in NYC ignore red lights if there aren't cars around, it just makes sense.

2manybikes
10-28-06, 09:01 AM
I think most cyclists ignore red lights if there aren't cars around, it just makes sense.

I just took out two words for you. Now it's more accurate. :)

How's the shin today ?

LóFarkas
10-28-06, 09:13 AM
I ignore red lights if there aren't police cars around, it just makes sense
A bit more modification to make the sentence fit me:D

Tom Bombadil
10-28-06, 09:28 AM
I'm sorry if this offends any of you, but I treat red lights on a bike as a stop sign.

As a stop sign??

In Madison, WI, bikers treat stop signs as a place to slightly slow down to take a quick glance to make sure they are not going to be creamed by a car.

I drive to work (ya, I know ... boo! this is a commuters forum) and my route home is down a city street that has 6 stop signs. I've been driving it for 15 years, to and from work. So I've probably driven it over 5000 times. I think I've seen a biker stop at a stop sign maybe 20-25 times over that entire period. This is vs maybe 10,000 times I've seen bikers run the stop signs. I've seen 1 biker get hit and three-four others that would have been hit had it not be for some good driving by people in cars. Probably a few hundred times where the bikers failed to properly yield the right of way to a car. Those invariably lead to the cars honking at the bikers and then the biker giving the car the finger.

Mind you this is just off of the Univ of Wisconsin-Madison campus, so nearly all of the bikers are college students. Collectively, they sure give a bad rep to bikers.

Daily Commute
10-28-06, 09:42 AM
I think most cyclists in NYC ignore red lights if there aren't cars around, it just makes sense.
I don't ignore red lights when there aren't cars in sight, but I will sometimes treat them as yield signs, slowing enough to look both ways and to stop if I see cars coming. That usually only happens when I'm commuting before 6:00 a.m. Of course, if a cop sees me, I'll have to pay the ticket.

There are also a couple loop-sensored lights on my route that I know I can't trigger. If there are no cars to trigger the light, I treat those as yield signs.

And I almost forgot: Nice story slvoid.

superted
10-28-06, 10:01 AM
I always stop at lights, cyclists should respect traffic laws otherwise we cant expect to get treated well by other traffic. I even stop at lights which are just for peds to cross over...

threephi
10-28-06, 12:47 PM
To be truthful, how I treat a red in the city depends on how early/late for work I am. Usually I'll slow down to get a good look both ways on the cross street to see if anything's coming, then blow through. If I'm running behind though, I'll delay the slowing down part until I spot something that might hit me which I can't zip past :D

Unless there's a cop car on the block. Then I do a full stop and wait it out. I was ticketed on Broadway once about 20 years ago for running a red on my bike, so I guess I'm still a bit gunshy.

slvoid
10-28-06, 12:53 PM
20 YEARS ago? Come on that's a long time. :)

slvoid
10-28-06, 12:56 PM
I just took out two words for you. Now it's more accurate. :)

How's the shin today ?

I have a sheet of tegaderm on it so it's stewing in its own juices. I should be able to ride again on monday...

Honestly I think most cyclists run lights in NYC and I'm probably one of the safer ones. You should see the fixie riders, they take a lot more risks than I do.

BigMacFU
10-28-06, 03:53 PM
I stop for half or them in the city and go on the other half. Coming home I stop more because I take my time.

threephi
10-29-06, 02:22 PM
20 YEARS ago? Come on that's a long time. :)
Yeah, it's a bit crazy, I admit. But didn't someone post here not too long ago that Bloomberg has the police focussing on cyclists for this kind of thing? That still in effect?

Also, as a general rule I just don't want to give the peace officers any reason to pay attention to me. I'm not anti-cop, and I don't have/do any kind of criminal record or activity to worry about, but I've also read too many stories about NY's Finest not always behaving correctly with cyclists.

bugmenot
11-02-06, 08:05 PM
I always stop at lights, cyclists should respect traffic laws otherwise we cant expect to get treated well by other traffic. I even stop at lights which are just for peds to cross over...

What a crock. Dick cagers aren't gonna become good drivers simply because you stop at red lights. Just stay out of there way as best you can and that's all you can do. Going through a red light when you've got plenty of time doesn't bother anyone and is perfectly fine. In locations where you can bike legally on the sidewalk, it's basically equivalent to crossing in the crosswalk anyway.

Chris L
11-02-06, 08:21 PM
Best storry of the week! Seattle Cops could make ton of easy money following that example. It's way easier than chasing crack-heads, puts money in the dpt cookie jar, saves gas

The same thing applies in this part of the world. I was actually surprised to read that there are still some places where the police bother to enforce red lights anymore.

Flimflam
11-03-06, 10:00 AM
Nice story! :)

I usually stop at reds, it's rare I'll ever go through - I just don't like the fact that IF I get hit (and I don't trust drivers in anyway when it comes to this - signals, manouevers mean dick all to me when it comes to my life, I'd rather stop), I want to know that I'm not automatically in the wrong, which I would be running a red.

Plus, stopping at lights gives me a chance to drain the nostrils, take on some water and get a few breaths of rest and maybe spectate on any attractive scenery (a summer favourable pasttime obviously ;) :D) that happens to be around.

I've taken to ringing my bell going through greens too, downtown anyway - peds tend to run across the street if I'm not 'guarded' by a car coming through with me, and I'm not in the mood to be hitting anyone.