Commuting - Who splits lanes?

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nukemm
10-27-06, 01:49 PM
How many of you are consistently guilty of lane splitting during your commute? Is it something legitimately illegal? I'm just curious, because I got pulled over & counselled for speeding & lane splitting (52 in a 35 + splitting traffic that was doing ~40MPH). I understand that it was a bit wreckless, but there were only two pairs of cars that I split, then I had the road clear in front of me. -1 point for me for being wreckless. Karma got me back, though, my rear blinkie bounced off this morning, but fortunately I rescued it and it didn't break.


DataJunkie
10-27-06, 01:58 PM
I do not. However, the last time I said I never performed a particular maneuver, I found myself doing the opposite (filtering). So, I reserve the right to hurt myself in ever imaginative method possible.

ghettocruiser
10-27-06, 02:01 PM
Sorry, you were "filtering" at 52mph? :eek:

This thread is worthless without pics.

Edit: Or maybe HDTV video clips. :)


Bklyn
10-27-06, 02:07 PM
Sorry, you were "filtering" at 52mph? :eek:




+1

ducati
10-27-06, 02:08 PM
I'm assuming you were on a motorcycle at those speeds.

I do it on my bicycle, never a motorcycle. Mostly because folks around here are not used to it, and it freaks them out when you're moving. So if cars are stopped in a jam or a huge line, I filter to the front. Typically this is in downtown traffic, where I simply accelerate ahead, take the lane, and travel at the speed of traffic.

Probably not the safest practice, and I know some folks detest it, but it is one of the #1 things that I enjoy about being on a bike: traffic really doesn't slow you down like when you're driving a car.

noisebeam
10-27-06, 02:10 PM
cop shoulda given you a speeding ticket, was very kind instead to just give a lecture which if it sunk in may save your butt later.

Al

SSP
10-27-06, 02:12 PM
Lane splitting is, AFAIK, legal in California. It's not all that unusual to be passed between lanes by motorcycles on the freeways. I assume it's also legal for bikes.

As for filtering...when I was in Paris a few years back, I got a kick out of watching all the motorcycles lane split and filter forward at every red light. As soon as the light turned green, they would all charge off in a pack.

nukemm
10-27-06, 02:13 PM
I'm not convinced that I was doing 52MPH, though with over a mile downhill grade it may be possible, but I don't know that I could do it. The gun was probably out of whack a bit, but the cop said she saw a near-steady 52 as soon as I emerged between the cars. If she's right, props to me for being one fast dude, but I doubt I could do 52MPH with my backpack on my rack, even with a 3+ mile stretch without a stop and staying in top gear. Who knows, maybe I'm fast? No speedo yet on the roadie, just on the MTB. I'd like to see 52MPH someday!

TRaffic Jammer
10-27-06, 02:13 PM
I filter and split in downtown traffic up to say 50km-ish per hour.
If you were doing that at 50+mph on a bike that's kinda twisted sick.

Bklyn
10-27-06, 02:29 PM
On a mountain bike with a rack and you not knowing it? Not possible, I think. That's why you got only a lecture and not a ticket.

I split lanes all the time, but only if the cars are crawling.

jyossarian
10-27-06, 02:32 PM
I split lanes all the time as long as I can keep up w/ traffic. Sometimes it's safer than being in the right lane going at the same speed and having some cager pull a right hook.

jamesdemien
10-27-06, 02:33 PM
grip it and rip it dude... I ride a bike so i can filter and split lanes...

at 52mph I'd prefer and open road with no stoplights...

marqueemoon
10-27-06, 02:41 PM
only if traffic is stopped and even then rarely

nukemm
10-27-06, 02:49 PM
On a mountain bike with a rack and you not knowing it? Not possible, I think. That's why you got only a lecture and not a ticket.

I split lanes all the time, but only if the cars are crawling.


Not on a MTB, on a roadie.

Shiznaz
10-27-06, 02:50 PM
I only split lanes on one section of my commute that for some reason is totally gridlocked about half the time I ride home from work. The other half of the time its 2 lanes of not much. Bad traffic planning I guess. Anyways, I filter there because theres never enough room at the curb (every fifth car will be jammed right up against it for some reason), and because theres less chance of getting doored.

Every once and a while some guy will be blocking my path because he has done a half-lane change, so I have to do a really tight U between car bumpers towards the curb and then back into between lanes. I also watch out for pedestrians and found that even when close and audible a bell is useless and you MUST yell at them.

There is no way in hell that I will EVER wait in line behind 2 kilometres of cars for an hour sucking fumes waiting to get by a section I can ride in minutes.

kemmer
10-27-06, 02:51 PM
Yeah, if there not much chance of a sudden lane change and if traffic is really slow. AFAIK, California is the only place it's legal on a MC, I don't know about bicycles.

noisebeam
10-27-06, 02:52 PM
How much clearance between you and the vehicles you split?
Is all you are concerned about in this case is the legality? (which may or may not be depending on your state/local laws)

Al

redden
10-27-06, 02:52 PM
all the time on motorcycles and bicycles. been splitting lanes for more than 30 years with only 1 accident.

TRaffic Jammer
10-27-06, 02:53 PM
When my bag, makes the *whiff* sound on the mirror, I'm almost too close. :lol:

Artkansas
10-27-06, 02:55 PM
Lane splitting is, AFAIK, legal in California. It's not all that unusual to be passed between lanes by motorcycles on the freeways. I assume it's also legal for bikes.


Yes, lane splitting is legal in California. Here's what the CHP says.

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html

Though I can't really figure out any difference between filtering and lane splitting.

nukemm
10-27-06, 03:07 PM
How much clearance between you and the vehicles you split?
Is all you are concerned about in this case is the legality? (which may or may not be depending on your state/local laws)

Al


I've got enough room that I could easily fit my Honda Shadow with the crash bars in between and ride comfortably, probably 3' or so on either side, so equal or greater room than I normally have on the edge of the lane, especially since there is no shoulder (bridge, and it's got a raised sidewalk with guardrail that is not safe to ride on, especially with peds). I normally take the full lane on this section of my commute, but occasionally traffic is slow or bumper to bumper, door to door, in which case I feel safer being between the cars than behind/in front of them, mainly due to my inate fear of being smashed from behind (been rear-ended several times in cars in traffic, go I-5!) because someone is not paying attention. Is it normal to feel safer between cars instead of in line with them?

Oh, and I think the difference between filtering and lane splitting from what I'm hearing is that lane splitting is actively passing cars while moving, and filtering is passing cars that are stopped or very slowed at an intersection?

noisebeam
10-27-06, 03:14 PM
I've got enough room that I could easily fit my Honda Shadow with the crash bars in between and ride comfortably, probably 3' or so on either side, so equal or greater room than I normally have on the edge of the lane,...
Oh, and I think the difference between filtering and lane splitting from what I'm hearing is that lane splitting is actively passing cars while moving, and filtering is passing cars that are stopped or very slowed at an intersection?
Wow, that is a lot of space ~9ft. wide it seems, basically a full lane width. I was imagining you doing this between the more typical 4-5' gap.... and yes splitting is when vehicles are moving.
Al

nukemm
10-27-06, 03:17 PM
Wow, that is a lot of space ~9ft. wide it seems, basically a full lane width. I was imagining you doing this between the more typical 4-5' gap.... and yes splitting is when vehicles are moving.
Al


Pretty much it's almost wide enough for a third lane, except when large vehicles pass through. Maybe people give me more space because they think I'm crazy because I'm faster than they are?

fordfasterr
10-27-06, 03:37 PM
I split lanes all the time. I draft trucks and busses every chance I get, and I smoke through every single ... :eek: OOPS - don't want to get ahead of myself here... :D

Fux cagers - thats why I ride a bicycle.

jyossarian
10-27-06, 05:56 PM
How much clearance between you and the vehicles you split?
A foot on either side more or less. It varies cuz cagers rarely drive in the middle of their lane.

SDRider
10-27-06, 06:00 PM
It's legal in CA. I do it on my bike in one particular area where the road becomes 3 lanes for about 1/8th of a mile before the right lane becomes right turn only. I will ride right down the right side of the middle lane for that entire section so I don't have to cross it when it merges into 2 lanes again.

Been doing it for about a year with no problem.

JeffS
10-27-06, 06:22 PM
I split lanes daily on one section of my commute. Strangely enough, safety reasons force me in to the center lane of traffic where I'm typically moving slightly faster than traffic that's moving, but bumper to bumper in all lanes. Since there's no "holes" in traffic, it's unlikely someone will try to change lanes on me.

This typically takes place in the 25-30mph range (my speed).

cerewa
10-27-06, 07:23 PM
but I doubt I could do 52MPH with my backpack on my rack,

The idea that adding weight to a bicycle makes it slower on flat ground and downhills is a misconception. With air resistance considered, a backpack and rack on your bike probably make about zero difference to your speed when you're going downhill around that speed.

chephy
10-27-06, 08:04 PM
I filter and split in downtown traffic up to say 50km-ish per hour. Good God! You're fast!

Although I can't really imagine filtering at that speed... If there is enough lateral space to go at 50 kmph, I wouldn't call it filtering.

TRaffic Jammer
10-28-06, 09:01 AM
It is a sprinting through traffic speed and not a cruising speed, though I do like to use the cars themselves to suck me along faster and faster. Now with these 2inch knobbies I'm sporting, it'll be a cold day in hell before I fing myself going that fast on the flats. :D I love traffic...the more there is the faster I go for some reason. One of my favorite rides is down the yellow line of Yonge.

superted
10-28-06, 10:08 AM
If you mean going between lanes of traffic then yeh of course I do that. Im usually quicker than traffic so I do it as much as possible and when Im not, I go to the front where there is a green zone reserved for cyclists and sit on the left hand side (we drive on the left) and then go off. The only problem is my wide bars, im getting them cut down for jsut this reason

BigMacFU
10-28-06, 10:20 AM
Depends on state laws whether lane riding is okay.

LóFarkas
10-28-06, 11:24 AM
I love traffic...the more there is the faster I go for some reason.
I hear that... Don't underestimate aero effects. Even if you're riding beside and not behind vehicles, it matters a whole damn lot. Between two lanes full of moving cars you get a lot of "assistance".
It also gets the goold old adrenaline going which helps with sprints:D

TRaffic Jammer
10-28-06, 11:37 AM
good old adrenaline going which helps with sprints:D

Guilty of lovin my adrenaline:D

nukemm
10-28-06, 01:41 PM
Guilty of lovin my adrenaline:D

+1

Maybe 52MPH is possible then with side-draft of cars + long hill + >3 mile continuous momentum. Interesting... I might have to look up some physics formula that accounts for draft/wind resistance + aerodynamic values of bicycle/rider, energy being used, gravity assisting (down hill)... someone with a bigger brain than mine can probably figure out how fast I would have been going on a flat while solo in this instance...

chephy
10-28-06, 02:08 PM
With air resistance considered, a backpack and rack on your bike probably make about zero difference to your speed when you're going downhill around that speed. In fact, the top speed may actually increase on the downhill.

This was discussed in a hilarious thread in General Cycling a while ago, in which a lot of forum members displayed their pet physics-related misconceptions. :D

chephy
10-28-06, 02:17 PM
One of my favorite rides is down the yellow line of Yonge. Messenger alert! Messenger detected! Run away, run away! :D