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phantomcow2
10-28-06, 09:39 AM
I was practicly laughed out of a classroom when this question was asked. I am still running my 3 year old Maxtor, 40GB. When everybody else has multiple 200GB hard drives:p .

So how many gigs in total do you have?


CyLowe97
10-28-06, 09:40 AM
160 on the home PC.

Portable storage is so cheap anymore, so what's the big deal? Just get yourself something to plug into the USB port and voila... extra space.

phantomcow2
10-28-06, 09:51 AM
Yea, I am thinking of buying something portable now. I only use 11GB of my 40available at home!


barba
10-28-06, 09:55 AM
My laptop has 120GB. I am considering buying an external drive for backups and archiving.

Stacey
10-28-06, 09:58 AM
I have a 30 & a 6 GIG HD on my machine. I have about 6 GIG on the 30, the smaller unit is empty... and I just 'upgraded' and added the 30 too. :lol:

Jim Bonnet
10-28-06, 10:02 AM
320gb on 2x160gb sata drives on the desktop plus a 300gb usb maxtor backup drive

ubuntu 6.1 ;)

markhr
10-28-06, 10:13 AM
400+

KingTermite
10-28-06, 10:24 AM
Home PC: 120+250 + 250 (External) = 620Gb (.62 TB)

Still relatively small compared to others I know of at the computer forum I hang out at sometimes.

Tom Stormcrowe
10-28-06, 10:53 AM
dual Overland Storage Hard Drive - 500 GB ea. - SATA-150 Hot swaps, married

Looking at another 500 gig external for critical file backup.

Taerom
10-28-06, 11:07 AM
80

Ornery
10-28-06, 11:11 AM
500GB on my PC, spread over 3 physical drives and several logicals.
350GB on #2 son's PC on a couple physical drives.
360GB on #1 son's PC, 80GB on his Powerbook.
160GB on wife's PC on 2 physical drives.
My first assembled PC in 1992, had a 130MB Maxtor, and we wondered what we'd ever do with all that space!

mechBgon
10-28-06, 12:16 PM
36GB primary HDD. But it's the latest-generation 15000rpm SCSI. Quality over quantity. Ok yeah, I also have a 200GB SATA drive (with 6GB in use). :o But don't tell anyone! :o

Air
10-28-06, 12:17 PM
750 Gigs on my PC (2 internal)
100 on my laptop

AllenG
10-28-06, 12:33 PM
300ish

Ganesha
10-28-06, 12:34 PM
2 TBytes...

DannoXYZ
10-28-06, 01:00 PM
75+75+125+160+160+233+350+500= ???

Tom Stormcrowe
10-28-06, 01:03 PM
1.778tB, Danno

Falanx
10-28-06, 01:10 PM
One 500GB stripe
One 250GB mirror
1GB on phone
1GB on camera
512MB memory stick
190 square feet in flat

jschen
10-28-06, 01:17 PM
At my parents' place, we still have a Mac SE in service since 1988 that has the original 8 MHz Motorola 68000, 1 MB RAM, and 20 MB hard drive. I once acquired four 1 MB RAM sticks for it (in the late 90's when it was essentially free), but never got around to installing it since it didn't really need more than 1 MB RAM. (Why would it need more RAM? It ran MS Word and MS Powerpoint just fine. It ran our spreadsheet application just fine.)

KingTermite
10-28-06, 01:30 PM
At my parents' place, we still have a Mac SE in service since 1988 that has the original 8 MHz Motorola 68000, 1 MB RAM, and 20 MB hard drive. I once acquired four 1 MB RAM sticks for it (in the late 90's when it was essentially free), but never got around to installing it since it didn't really need more than 1 MB RAM. (Why would it need more RAM? It ran MS Word and MS Powerpoint just fine. It ran our spreadsheet application just fine.)
My 1990 PC "AT" (16 MHz, 1MB RAM, 40MB hard drive) is still around and going strong. It was passed to may parents, who then passed it to my brother, who then passed it to his (then) wife's sister which is where it still resides (last I heard). It is now basically a computer to play kids learning games for her daughter. 16 years and still going strong. :D

georgiaboy
10-28-06, 01:34 PM
720 kb, baby! Did I say double density?


http://www.at-mix.de/images/glossar/floppy.jpg

KingTermite
10-28-06, 01:39 PM
720 kb, baby! Did I say double density?


http://www.at-mix.de/images/glossar/floppy.jpg
Obviously before your time as you got the size wrong for the disk you are showing.

That is a 5 1/4" disk which was 360Kb(Double Density), then HD (High Density) came out and was 1.2Mb.

It was the 3 1/2" disks that were 720Kb (DD) and then 1.44Mb (HD).

Anybody remember the 8" floppies? I used to have to deal with them in high school on TRS-80s, and on a main frame Sperry computer I worked on in a job just after high school.

georgiaboy
10-28-06, 01:40 PM
Obviously before your time as you got the size wrong for the disk you are showing.

That is a 5 1/4" disk which was 360Kb(Double Density), then HD (High Density) came out and was 1.2Mb.

It was the 3 1/2" disks that were 720Kb (DD) and then 1.44Mb (HD).

Sorry, I was having a retro moment. :D

I thought TRS-80 used this:

http://www.429bauhaus.no-ip.com/Images/CCR81.JPG

KingTermite
10-28-06, 01:42 PM
Sorry, I was having a retro moment. :D
Heehee...no problem...it just gave me an excuse to show off and remind everybody how old I am simultaneously! ;)

mechBgon
10-28-06, 01:45 PM
Sorry, I was having a retro moment. :D

I thought TRS-80 used this:

http://www.429bauhaus.no-ip.com/Images/CCR81.JPGAhhh, my Sinclair ZX-81 used one of those. It had 1 kilobyte of RAM. Or was it 2 kilobytes? I forget now.

jschen
10-28-06, 01:53 PM
Anybody remember the 8" floppies?
I've seen them in action. As I understand it, the format never really caught on, so DEC ended up with a huge excess supply and using a lot of them for the operating system of some of their workstations. I've used older Bruker NMR instruments with DEC-based consoles that still boot off of 8" floppy drives.

Ziemas
10-28-06, 01:54 PM
720 kb, baby! Did I say double density?


http://www.at-mix.de/images/glossar/floppy.jpg
Anyone else remember using a paper punch to make single sided disks double sided?

Tom Stormcrowe
10-28-06, 01:58 PM
Yuppers!

DannoXYZ
10-28-06, 02:47 PM
1.778tB, DannoThanks Tom! I can't even add correctly without a calculator anymore, damn technology's got us dependent! Somehow I remember paying $3000 for a 5mb hard-drive once... Corvus was it? And we backed up to a VCR, bizarre now... cutting edge at the time... I can't wait to see what happens in the next couple decades... if we're still around...

AllenG
10-28-06, 03:01 PM
Wait, add 64k to my previous total. I was helping my father clean out his basement and ran across my old Commodore 64. Still have its box, and its tape drive. $199.99 from Sears.

--A

wahoonc
10-28-06, 03:10 PM
Anybody remember the 8" floppies? I used to have to deal with them in high school on TRS-80s, and on a main frame Sperry computer I worked on in a job just after high school.
Yep some where around here in a storage building we still have one:eek: Last time it was located it still booted up:p In answer to the orginal question...I still have a laptop running 5gig. My 3 year old desk top has 120g+120g external. My company laptop is running 40gig and is only about 35% full. If I cleared out some picture files and 2-3 year old job files I could probably get it back down to 25% or so. I also have a quite a few flash drives floating around in various denominations predominately 128k gimmees that we get from the sales reps.

Aaron:)

DannoXYZ
10-28-06, 03:32 PM
Yeah, my complete installation of 4 OSes on one computer and all my apps fit within about 8gb. The rest of the stuff is just data. Downloading from the video-camera to your computer eats up about 90gb/hr... Then triple that amount for editing temp-files and a final-output file and you're looking at about 300gb/hr for video-production.. :(

belfast-biker
10-28-06, 04:00 PM
So how many gigs in total do you have?


PC1
40GB in C:
110B in D:

PC2
30GB

PC3
4x120GB RAID Array Primary
1x250GB external backup


Mac
20GB in Main
30GB in Other

Nano
4GB :)

Pocket PC
4GB


It's enough. Space is cheap, but I don't go overboard.

Ornery
10-28-06, 05:00 PM
...Downloading from the video-camera to your computer eats up about 90gb/hr... Then triple that amount for editing temp-files and a final-output file and you're looking at about 300gb/hr for video-production.. :(That will be my world someday. I was lured to PCs back in 1992 for that very reason. I had hopes of using an Amiga with Video Toaster software to do just that, but my couple thousand dollar initial investment would have escalated to $10,000 to create any useful video. Here it is 15 years later, and I still haven't gotten anything put together.

My current camera is a Hi8 Sony, as was its predecessor. They've captured many hours of analog video that will need to be converted to digital. I see Panasonic's latest offerings don't have the pass through feature. I see Sony's HDR-HC1 doesn't have it either. Am I going to have to buy a $500 stand alone converter instead? :(

Portis
10-28-06, 07:57 PM
I've actually got a 280 but my MB apparently can't figure that out. I tried different methods to get it to recongize the full 280, but it only sees 127.

http://xs208.xs.to/xs208/06430/untitled.JPG

Portis
10-28-06, 07:59 PM
Yeah, my complete installation of 4 OSes on one computer and all my apps fit within about 8gb. The rest of the stuff is just data. Downloading from the video-camera to your computer eats up about 90gb/hr... Then triple that amount for editing temp-files and a final-output file and you're looking at about 300gb/hr for video-production.. :(

Mine only consumes about 12 gig an hour.

mechBgon
10-28-06, 08:22 PM
That will be my world someday. I was lured to PCs back in 1992 for that very reason. I had hopes of using an Amiga with Video Toaster software to do just that, but my couple thousand dollar initial investment would have escalated to $10,000 to create any useful video. Here it is 15 years later, and I still haven't gotten anything put together.

My current camera is a Hi8 Sony, as was its predecessor. They've captured many hours of analog video that will need to be converted to digital. I see Panasonic's latest offerings don't have the pass through feature. I see Sony's HDR-HC1 doesn't have it either. Am I going to have to buy a $500 stand alone converter instead? :(Have you considered a Hauppage PVR-series card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116633)? It converts analog to MPEG on-the-fly. The conversion is done on the card, so you don't have to have a uber-powerful CPU for this part of the job. It also can be used to record TV shows.


I've actually got a 280 but my MB apparently can't figure that out. I tried different methods to get it to recongize the full 280, but it only sees 127. What kind of motherboard, or what kind of computer?

belfast-biker
10-29-06, 03:00 AM
I've actually got a 280 but my MB apparently can't figure that out. I tried different methods to get it to recongize the full 280, but it only sees 127.




What model board and disk do you have and what methods have you tried?

DannoXYZ
10-29-06, 03:32 AM
Mine only consumes about 12 gig an hour.Sure, for mini-DV @ 3.6mb/sec native. I'm talking about 1080i HDV @ 25 MBps.:) A lot of people use the crappy MS MovieMaker to download video, but it forces you to compress down to its WMV format which throws out like 80% of the quality in order to get a smaller file-size. Of course, you can't get single-frame precision due to the long distance between keyframes. I use WinDV (http://windv.mourek.cz/) to download the video from the camera in its native DV format, if you don't do any rendering or manipulations in Premiere, you can dump it straight back up to the camera as well. :) Streaming data-rates are (have lots of storage ready ;)):

480i miniDV = 3.6 MBps
720p HDV = 19 MBps
1080i HDV = 25 MBps


My current camera is a Hi8 Sony, as was its predecessor. They've captured many hours of analog video that will need to be converted to digital. I see Panasonic's latest offerings don't have the pass through feature. I see Sony's HDR-HC1 doesn't have it either. Am I going to have to buy a $500 stand alone converter instead? :(heh, heh... why not just pick up a new miniDV camera with analog-passthrough from Target or Costco for $300-500? They've dropped in price quite a bit the past couple years with the introduction of the prosumer HD /3-chip cameras. Sony's always been high-quality when they're not trying to push their proprietary standards down your throat. You can pick up a used Sony PC-series camera on ebay (http://attr-search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&satitle=sony+%28%22DCR+PC*%22%2C%22DCR-PC*%22%29&sacat=23781%26catref%3DC6%26curcat%3Dtrue&fts=2&a25563=25566&a15961=31705&a14=1764&a10244=-24&alist=a25563%2Ca15961%2Ca14%2Ca3801%2Ca10244&pfmode=1&reqtype=1&gcs=1583&pfid=1980&pf_query=sony+%28%22DCR+PC*%22%2C%22DCR-PC*%22%29&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&price=1&saprclo=50&saprchi=350&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search) with analog-passthrough conversion to DV for dirt cheap. I just grabbed a couple myself to use as a play-only deck attached to my computer and another to rewind tapes . Here's a list of Sony cameras (http://www.viosport.com/support/index.php?type=ntsc&page=compatibility&manufacturer=Sony) showing which ones have analog inputs.:)

DannoXYZ
10-29-06, 04:33 AM
I've actually got a 280 but my MB apparently can't figure that out. I tried different methods to get it to recongize the full 280, but it only sees 127. There are multiple levels that can be causing this:

1. hardware, the HD-controller on your motherboard must support 48-bit LBA
2. Win2k needs SP4+ and WinXP needs SP1+

Solution 1a: You can get around #1 hardware issue with a BIOS upgrade on some motherboards to enable 48-bit LBA, some can't at all due to limitations in the controller chip.

Solution 1b: Install a drive-controller with 48-bit LBA

Solution 1c: or use a software DDO-driver between the hardware and operating-system.

Solution 2: After the hardware's done, then make sure you have Win2k+SP4 or WinXP+SP1

Then there's also a Windows patch that needs to have a registry-hack done to turn on the EnableBigLba registry value (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303013/en-us). But this seems to be a strange thing as some systems need it and others don't.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Check out this "48-bit LBA FAQ (http://www.48bitlba.com/faq.htm)" for all the background info on your problem. Also, a good PDF white-paper from Ontrack (www.ontrack.com/library/dm_tech.pdf -) and Seagate-137gb.pdf (http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/tp/137gb.pdf) that goes over your various options. Some motherboards can be be upgraded to 48-bit LBA (ATA-6) with a BIOS flash if they have a controller-chip that can do it. Others can't no matter what. In this case, it's simple enough to just buy a PCI IDE-controller that supports 48-bit LBA.

There's also software drivers available that does the LBA translation at a low level between the hardware and the operating system. These DDO drivers (http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/over_DDO.htm) are similar to the previous generation stuff that got around the 1024-cylinder 8.4gb limit a couple years ago. Various drive-manufacturers bundle this software with their drives:

Seagate = DiscWizard (http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/capacity/137/bios.html#ddo) (instructions (http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/use_dwse.html))
Maxtor = MaxBlast 4 (http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/maxtor/menuitem.3c67e325e0a6b1f6294198b091346068/?channelpath=%2Fen_us%2FSupport%2FSoftware+Downloads%2FView+By+Category%2FDesktop+Storage%2FMaxtor+O ther%2FUtilities&downloadID=57) (instructions (http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/enduser/olh_adp.php?p_faqid=960))
IBM/Fujitsu = Hard Disk Manager (expecting a more original name from IBM?)

But they're a slight risk with using them because when you DO upgrade your hardware later, like move your HD to a motherboard with hardware 48-LBA support, there's no easy way to uninstall that driver. Also booting from floppy/CD (like to use partitioning software like Partition Magic) without loading the DDO software first can result in incorrectly translated CHS values and an invisible drive later. So it's best to get a hardware solution like a controller-card:

ACARD Tech (http://www.acard.com.tw/english/home.jsp)
Promise Technology (http://www.promise.com/product/product_list_eng.asp?familyId=3)
Highpoint Tech (http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/atacard.htm)
SIIG Inc (http://www.siig.com/productlist.asp?catid=103&page=2)


To determine if you've got a motherboard chip-set issue, a BIOS issue or a software/Windows problem (or maybe all of them), download this HDinfo tool (http://www.48bitlba.com/hdinfo.htm) and you'll have more data to work with in troubleshooting. Unfortunately, all of the solutions to your problem needed to be implemented at the time you install, format & partition the drive and before you actually write any data on it... :(

catatonic
10-29-06, 04:42 AM
Desktop, 1 200, 2 400 = 1TB, soon to be upgraded with 4 more large drives....I'm shooting for 3TB.

Laptop = 60GB

Ext drives = 80gb, 40gb = 120gb

Ornery
10-29-06, 06:40 AM
Thanks for the suggestions mechBgon and DannoXYZ.

I guess I could easily get by with the cheaper capture card. I was confused by my last foray into video editing on a PC, when I tried to make VHS copies for my son's football teammates. I used no less than three high end capture cards, and had no luck with any of them. The problem came when trying to convert the edited digital video back to a VHS tape. In hind sight, all the cards were able to capture the Hi8 just fine.

My next camera will be in the $1,000 - $1,500 range. I want low light shooting ability for sure, and the new HD offerings (http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-HCR-HC1-Review.htm) are really tempting.

SteveE
10-29-06, 09:19 AM
I just bought a 400GB hard drive for my daughter. Her PC only had 20GB. We went to Fry's to look for a new one for her and they had the Seagate drive on sale for only $109. She doesn't need all that space but we couldn't pass it up at that price. (BTW, she's almost paid me back for it. Only $20 more to go.)

Portis
10-29-06, 10:25 AM
The problem came when trying to convert the edited digital video back to a VHS tape.

Why would you want to do that? DVD players have sort of taken over for the VHS players you might say. :rolleyes: I've made football and basketball highlight DVD's for high school teams. I can't see any reason why you would want to put one on VHS.

chephy
10-29-06, 08:52 PM
20 GB (notebook) + 80 GB (external) + 250 GB (external) = 350 GB total.

And at the rate at which I'm going, I'll run out of space pretty damn fast, especially since the 80 GB drive is used exclusively for back-ups.

cuda2k
10-29-06, 08:54 PM
320gig between 2 drives. Currently have 30gig unpartitioned that I planned to make into a Linux drive for a dual boot...

Maelstrom
10-29-06, 08:58 PM
60g or so at home...
At work...3T give or take, not including my 3 workstations.

TRACKMAN
10-29-06, 09:07 PM
Anyone else remember using a paper punch to make single sided disks double sided?

yepper, when I worked for Wang Laboratories way back when, we punched them out to cut back on the number of diagnostic disks we carried..

Maelstrom
10-29-06, 09:08 PM
I remember my apple 2c that ran off a 5 1/4 floppy and used a tape drive for its storage...oh and of course the manual insert modem that you plugged the receiver of the phone into hahaha

iamlucky13
10-29-06, 09:24 PM
If it's enough for you, then who cares? Just make sure you have some way to backup anything you don't want to lose.

I've got about ~37.5 GB...and I've been having to be careful what I save to keep from filling it up.

In about two weeks that won't be a problem. I'm just about ready to order all my parts for my new computer, including a 160 GB (OS's, core program files) and a 250 GB (misc programs, data, music, etc) drive. Plus the plan is to get a 120 GB or so external to backup important bits...so the planned total is half a TB. That should last me a little while.

I've still got two working Commodore 64's packed away in a box at my parent's house. I've got one floppy and one datasette drive, but not the optional 20 MB harddrive.