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EJ123
10-29-06, 05:12 PM
Funny, when I recieved this email, I was chugging down a monster low carb. Well, Im a big fan of monster energy low-carb, since it has 6g sugar in one 16oz can. What's scary is when I went to the doctor a few weeks ago, they said my blood pressure was 20 above normal, and in this article it said caffine/taurine can lead to higher blood pressure. Watch out.
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Caffeine-Stoked Energy Drinks Worry Doctors
By CARLA K. JOHNSON, AP
CHICAGO (Oct. 29) - More than 500 new energy drinks launched worldwide this year, and coffee fans are probably too old to understand why.



John Nordell, The Christian Science Monitor/Getty Images
Thirty-one percent of U.S. teenagers say they drink energy drinks, according to Simmons Research. That represents 7.6 million teens, a jump of nearly 3 million in three years.
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Energy drinks aren't merely popular with young people. They attract fan mail on their own MySpace pages. They spawn urban legends. They get reviewed by bloggers. And they taste like carbonated cough syrup.

Vying for the dollars of teenagers with promises of weight loss, increased endurance and legal highs, the new products join top-sellers Red Bull, Monster and Rockstar to make up a $3.4 billion-a-year industry that grew by 80 percent last year.

Thirty-one percent of U.S. teenagers say they drink energy drinks, according to Simmons Research. That represents 7.6 million teens, a jump of almost 3 million in three years.

Nutritionists warn that the drinks, laden with caffeine and sugar, can hook kids on an unhealthy jolt-and-crash cycle. The caffeine comes from multiple sources, making it hard to tell how much the drinks contain. Some have B vitamins, which when taken in megadoses can cause rapid heartbeat, and numbness and tingling in the hands and feet.

But the biggest worry is how some teens use the drinks. Some report downing several cans in a row to get a buzz, and a new study found a surprising number of poison-center calls from young people getting sick from too much caffeine.

"Wow, this drink is some serious stuff. I mean about half the bottle is the warning label, and it is serious, this drink is INSANE. It says that you should not drink it unless you are over 18, which I would say is a good warning." - From a review of an energy drink by Dan Mayer on his Web site, www.bandddesigns.com/energy.
Danger only adds to the appeal, said Bryan Greenberg, a marketing consultant and an assistant professor of marketing at Elizabethtown College.

"Young people need to break away from the bonds of adults and what society thinks is right," he said. They've grown up watching their parents drink Starbucks coffee, and want their own version. Heart palpitations aren't likely to scare them off.

Most brands target male teens and 20-somethings. Industry leader Red Bull, the first energy drink on the market, is now the "big arena band" of the bunch "teetering on the edge of becoming too big and too corporate," Greenberg said.

"Monster is more of a hard rocker, maybe with a little punk thrown in, much more hardcore," he said. "Rockstar is the more mainstream, glam rock band that's more about partying then playing."

(Monster is produced by Corona, Calif.-based Hansen Natural Corp., and Rockstar, distributed by Coca-Cola Co., is made by Las Vegas-based Rockstar Inc.)

Greenberg said the fierce competition among hundreds of new drinks, with Austria-based Red Bull guarding the biggest market share, leads to a "ratcheting up" of taboo names as companies try to break out from the crowd.

Cocaine Energy Drink, which launched in September and now sells in convenience stores and nightclubs in six states, is the latest example, following a twisted logic set by drinks named Pimpjuice and Bawls.

Hannah Kirby of the Las Vegas company behind Cocaine Energy Drink said Greenberg has it right. Kirby and her husband, Redux Beverage founder James Kirby, wanted to call their drink by the ho-hum name Reboot. That name was taken, so they decided to get provocative.

They're getting the attention they craved, along with some canceled orders. Following complaints from parents, convenience store operator 7-Eleven Inc. recently told franchises to pull the drink from its shelves.
"We knew we would get noticed against a thousand other energy drinks," she said. "We knew kids would find it cool, but we also wanted to stress the idea that it's an energy drink, you don't need drugs." Their slogan is "The Legal Alternative."

The Kirbys are parents of an 18-year-old son, Kirby said. The boy grew up hearing he shouldn't drink energy drinks on a school night.

"Cocaine looks so freaking tight. I NEED THIS STUFF. Next weekend, me and 3 friends are going to take a 6 hour roadtrip to NYC just to get our hands on this stuff." - From a comment on the MySpace page of Cocaine Energy Drink.

Red Bull founder Dietrich Mateschitz based his product on tonics sold in Asia. He started selling Red Bull in 1987 in Austria, his native country, and today 2.5 billion cans are sold a year in more than 130 nations. The industry leader grabbed more than 37 percent of the U.S. market last year, according to Beverage Digest.

Rumors have swirled around Red Bull for years.

Contrary to hearsay, the ingredient taurine (an amino acid important in making bile to aid digestion) is not made from bull urine, and Mateschitz did not learn about Red Bull from rickshaw drivers in Thailand. The urban legends-debunking Web site www.snopes.com has a page devoted to exposing the false claim that Red Bull contains a banned substance linked to brain tumors.

No evidence was ever found that sudden deaths in Ireland and Sweden were caused by people drinking Red Bull. But it's true that the Swedish government studied energy drinks and recommended they not be used to quench thirst or replenish liquid when exercising. And they should not be mixed with alcohol.

Too late. Anheuser-Busch and Miller Brewing now produce several "energy beers" - beer containing caffeine. And Red Bull and vodka - mixed up by bartenders who call it a Friday Flattener or a Dirty Pompadour - has been popular for a decade. On Red Bull's MySpace page, the product's 11,000 "friends" include alcohol products, which also have their own MySpace pages.

A Brazilian study found college students didn't feel as drunk as they actually were after drinking vodka and Red Bull. Their perception of their coordination and reaction time didn't match objective tests.

The potential for accidents and alcohol poisoning worries Dr. Sandra Braganza, a pediatrician and nutrition expert at the Children's Hospital at Montefiore in New York. As she prepared to write an article about energy drinks for a pediatrics journal, she was surprised how little published research she could find on them.

"The truth is, we don't know what kind of effects these ingredients can have," Braganza said of taurine, glucuronolactone and guarana. "We have to start doing more studies on this."

"How much of your favorite energy drink or soda would it take to kill you? Take this quick test and find out." - From a "Death by Caffeine" calculator on the Web site, www.energyfiend.com. Fill in your weight and click the button marked "Kill Me."

Earlier this month, a new study found a surprising number of caffeine overdose reports to a Chicago poison control center. These involved young people taking alertness pills such as NoDoz or energy drinks, sometimes mixed with alcohol or other drugs. During three years of reports to the center, the researchers found 265 cases of caffeine abuse. Twelve percent of those required a trip to the hospital. The average age of the caffeine user was 21.

"Young people are taking caffeine to stay awake, or perhaps to get high, and many of them are ending up in the emergency department," said Dr. Danielle McCarthy of Northwestern University, who conducted the study. "Caffeine is a drug and should be treated with caution, as any drug is."

How much caffeine do energy drinks contain? A University of Florida study found that some products, although served in cans two-thirds the size of a standard can of Coke, contain two to four times the amount of caffeine as that Coke. Energy drinks are unregulated in the United States, but the authors of the University of Florida paper suggest warning labels for them.

And now energy drinks are moving toward bigger cans with some products raising the caffeine content to gain a competitive edge, said John Sicher of Beverage Digest. The biggest, so far, is 24 ounces.

Parents should think twice before sending their children out the door with an energy drink, said Molly Morgan, a dietitian in upstate New York who consults with schools and talks to students, parents and coaches about energy drinks.

"My message to parents is moderation," Morgan said. "That means one can a day or less, and view it as a treat, not part of a daily routine."
Full of sugar and caffeine, energy drinks share the same health problems as soft drinks, she said. But some parents and coaches have bought the message that the drinks can enhance kids' performance in sports and increase concentration in school.

The evidence is weak, involving tiny studies. British research by a scientist who has since received funding from Red Bull found that among 36 volunteers, those who drank the product improved aerobic endurance and recalled numbers better. A British study of 42 people found Red Bull had no effect on memory, but did improve attention and verbal reasoning.

A University of Wisconsin study of 14 students found that two energy drink ingredients, caffeine and taurine, didn't improve short-term memory but led to slower heart rates and higher blood pressure. Since some energy drink ingredients generally speed up heart rates, the researchers could only speculate on the cause.

Carol Ann Rinzler, author of "Nutrition for Dummies," examined the labels of the top three energy drinks.

"The labels simply don't deliver all the facts," she said. "For example, while all list caffeine as an ingredient, and most tell you exactly how much caffeine is in the drink, they also list guarana, a caffeine source, as a separate ingredient but don't tell how much caffeine one gets from the guarana."

Rinzler said energy drinks also deliver a huge hit of sugar.

"Drink more than one and you get lots of sugar - 14 teaspoons in two cans, 21 teaspoons in three," she said. Add in megadoses of some vitamins; unnecessary nutrients (taurine) and more caffeine than plain sodas and you get "a fast up-and-down sugar high and a really rough caffeine buzz," she said. "And drinking two or three cans a day for a period of weeks or months might trigger some side effects from the vitamin megadoses."

New brands are appearing at the rate of almost one per day, making it difficult for Denver blogger Dan Mayer to keep up. As a hobby, Mayer reviews each new energy drink he can find. His is not the only energy drink review site, but it's one of the most popular.

"I've reviewed a little over 200 now. For most of these, the companies contact me. I'll find something new at 7-Eleven once in a while, but that's kind of rare," he said.

When Mayer meets an energy drink he doesn't like, his words can sting: "This is the kind of drink that was created by a bunch of rich fat people that have never had an energy drink in their life and really don't understand why this fad is around, they just know they want to be a part of the profit from it."

A Los Angeles company has asked him to design a new drink, but Mayer hasn't quit his day job yet. Pressed to explain the appeal of energy drinks, the 24-year-old spokesman for the buzzed generation said: "It's Starbucks for kids. With the tons of caffeine they put into these things, it gives you a little legal form of speed essentially."


mirona
10-29-06, 05:22 PM
Energy drinks are so stupid.

roughrider504
10-29-06, 05:52 PM
I used to drink energy drinks, but I would only drink one before I went for a long ride. I would never drink one, then not exersize.


operator
10-29-06, 06:04 PM
Energy drinks are so stupid.

I find it hilarious that you have "say no to drugs" under your handle.

mirona
10-29-06, 06:42 PM
I find it hilarious that you have "say no to drugs" under your handle.

I find it hilarious that you find that hilarious.

Taerom
10-29-06, 06:49 PM
That article is too long. Anyone care to sum it up for me? :rolleyes: I drink maybe one or two a week on average. I know they're not good for you, nothing that tastes good ever is.

-=(8)=-
10-29-06, 06:58 PM
I read another report about a year ago that says they are
devistating to the enamel on your teef http://deephousepage.com/smilies/gap.gif

Voidbringer
10-29-06, 07:06 PM
That article is too long. Anyone care to sum it up for me? :rolleyes: I drink maybe one or two a week on average. I know they're not good for you, nothing that tastes good ever is.

Article basically says caffeine is a drug and should be regulated, but since the number of people drinking them is increasing a lot, a lot of companies are making their own drinks and competing by putting more into their drinks until people can hurt themselves by being stupid and drinking tons of them at once. Well, not just can, apparently many do as they said at one place they get 265 cases a year of people getting checked into a posion control center for caffeine posioning.

Oh, and alcohol + energy drinks equals bad idea, which plunty of people do anyways.:)

Still going to keep chugging my energy drinks when I want them. I may die before the health nuts but I'm going to enjoy my life way more than them as well.

Taerom
10-29-06, 07:12 PM
I may die before the health nuts but I'm going to enjoy my life way more than them as well.

+1 That's pretty much how I like to look at life.

J-McKech
10-29-06, 07:24 PM
Whatever happened to people drinking coffeee?

russiankdi
10-29-06, 07:44 PM
I used to drink energy drinks, but I would only drink one before I went for a long ride. I would never drink one, then not exersize.I would drink one with some food only because they taste good.:D I haven't drank one in a loong time.

mirona
10-30-06, 03:41 AM
Still going to keep chugging my energy drinks when I want them. I may die before the health nuts but I'm going to enjoy my life way more than them as well.

You keep telling yourself that! :rolleyes:

operator
10-30-06, 05:37 AM
I find it hilarious that you find that hilarious.

I mean you've never ingested sugar in your entire life?

jyossarian
10-30-06, 08:12 AM
I told you you're heart would explode if you drank too many of them EJ.

CyLowe97
10-30-06, 08:15 AM
The answer? Coffee.

Coffee rules.

SingingSabre
10-30-06, 11:08 AM
I don't like energy drinks...they make me feel icky.

If I need pick me up, I go for coffee or soda and some fruit.

mirona
10-30-06, 11:12 AM
I mean you've never ingested sugar in your entire life?

Yea, because energy drinks are just sugar, right? And what does my user title have to do with this? People who try to find fault in others must be so miserable. Have a nice day.

snowy
10-30-06, 11:23 AM
I think the whole point of these kinds of stories is assumption. How much one assumes. Also the scary thing about some of these energy drinks is that people are mixing them with alcohol. Red bull and vodka is a favorite of some I know.

I honestly couldn't consume all that sugar in one sitting anyhoo. People complain about their weight and health but their not willing to take a deeper look at their lifestyles. Poor judgment is not an excuse. :)

Pheard
10-30-06, 11:51 AM
I drink monster khaos which has real juice in it. Most I can do is 2 at a time. I'll admit it get's you wired, but when you get that crash you feel like garbage. I remember last time I drunk one at like 11pm I couldn't sleep till like 2 am, and when I crashed I felt like crap. I felt sick, really weak and tired. Blech.

Mr. Gear Jammer
10-30-06, 02:54 PM
Funny, when I recieved this email, I was chugging down a monster low carb. Well, Im a big fan of monster energy low-carb, since it has 6g sugar in one 16oz can. What's scary is when I went to the doctor a few weeks ago, they said my blood pressure was 20 above normal, and in this article it said caffine/taurine can lead to higher blood pressure. Watch out.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Caffeine-Stoked Energy Drinks Worry Doctors
By CARLA K. JOHNSON, AP
CHICAGO (Oct. 29) - More than 500 new energy drinks launched worldwide this year, and coffee fans are probably too old to understand why.



John Nordell, The Christian Science Monitor/Getty Images
Thirty-one percent of U.S. teenagers say they drink energy drinks, according to Simmons Research. That represents 7.6 million teens, a jump of nearly 3 million in three years.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Energy drinks aren't merely popular with young people. They attract fan mail on their own MySpace pages. They spawn urban legends. They get reviewed by bloggers. And they taste like carbonated cough syrup.

Vying for the dollars of teenagers with promises of weight loss, increased endurance and legal highs, the new products join top-sellers Red Bull, Monster and Rockstar to make up a $3.4 billion-a-year industry that grew by 80 percent last year.

Thirty-one percent of U.S. teenagers say they drink energy drinks, according to Simmons Research. That represents 7.6 million teens, a jump of almost 3 million in three years.

Nutritionists warn that the drinks, laden with caffeine and sugar, can hook kids on an unhealthy jolt-and-crash cycle. The caffeine comes from multiple sources, making it hard to tell how much the drinks contain. Some have B vitamins, which when taken in megadoses can cause rapid heartbeat, and numbness and tingling in the hands and feet.

But the biggest worry is how some teens use the drinks. Some report downing several cans in a row to get a buzz, and a new study found a surprising number of poison-center calls from young people getting sick from too much caffeine.

"Wow, this drink is some serious stuff. I mean about half the bottle is the warning label, and it is serious, this drink is INSANE. It says that you should not drink it unless you are over 18, which I would say is a good warning." - From a review of an energy drink by Dan Mayer on his Web site, www.bandddesigns.com/energy.
Danger only adds to the appeal, said Bryan Greenberg, a marketing consultant and an assistant professor of marketing at Elizabethtown College.

"Young people need to break away from the bonds of adults and what society thinks is right," he said. They've grown up watching their parents drink Starbucks coffee, and want their own version. Heart palpitations aren't likely to scare them off.

Most brands target male teens and 20-somethings. Industry leader Red Bull, the first energy drink on the market, is now the "big arena band" of the bunch "teetering on the edge of becoming too big and too corporate," Greenberg said.

"Monster is more of a hard rocker, maybe with a little punk thrown in, much more hardcore," he said. "Rockstar is the more mainstream, glam rock band that's more about partying then playing."

(Monster is produced by Corona, Calif.-based Hansen Natural Corp., and Rockstar, distributed by Coca-Cola Co., is made by Las Vegas-based Rockstar Inc.)

Greenberg said the fierce competition among hundreds of new drinks, with Austria-based Red Bull guarding the biggest market share, leads to a "ratcheting up" of taboo names as companies try to break out from the crowd.

Cocaine Energy Drink, which launched in September and now sells in convenience stores and nightclubs in six states, is the latest example, following a twisted logic set by drinks named Pimpjuice and Bawls.

Hannah Kirby of the Las Vegas company behind Cocaine Energy Drink said Greenberg has it right. Kirby and her husband, Redux Beverage founder James Kirby, wanted to call their drink by the ho-hum name Reboot. That name was taken, so they decided to get provocative.

They're getting the attention they craved, along with some canceled orders. Following complaints from parents, convenience store operator 7-Eleven Inc. recently told franchises to pull the drink from its shelves.
"We knew we would get noticed against a thousand other energy drinks," she said. "We knew kids would find it cool, but we also wanted to stress the idea that it's an energy drink, you don't need drugs." Their slogan is "The Legal Alternative."

The Kirbys are parents of an 18-year-old son, Kirby said. The boy grew up hearing he shouldn't drink energy drinks on a school night.

"Cocaine looks so freaking tight. I NEED THIS STUFF. Next weekend, me and 3 friends are going to take a 6 hour roadtrip to NYC just to get our hands on this stuff." - From a comment on the MySpace page of Cocaine Energy Drink.

Red Bull founder Dietrich Mateschitz based his product on tonics sold in Asia. He started selling Red Bull in 1987 in Austria, his native country, and today 2.5 billion cans are sold a year in more than 130 nations. The industry leader grabbed more than 37 percent of the U.S. market last year, according to Beverage Digest.

Rumors have swirled around Red Bull for years.

Contrary to hearsay, the ingredient taurine (an amino acid important in making bile to aid digestion) is not made from bull urine, and Mateschitz did not learn about Red Bull from rickshaw drivers in Thailand. The urban legends-debunking Web site www.snopes.com has a page devoted to exposing the false claim that Red Bull contains a banned substance linked to brain tumors.

No evidence was ever found that sudden deaths in Ireland and Sweden were caused by people drinking Red Bull. But it's true that the Swedish government studied energy drinks and recommended they not be used to quench thirst or replenish liquid when exercising. And they should not be mixed with alcohol.

Too late. Anheuser-Busch and Miller Brewing now produce several "energy beers" - beer containing caffeine. And Red Bull and vodka - mixed up by bartenders who call it a Friday Flattener or a Dirty Pompadour - has been popular for a decade. On Red Bull's MySpace page, the product's 11,000 "friends" include alcohol products, which also have their own MySpace pages.

A Brazilian study found college students didn't feel as drunk as they actually were after drinking vodka and Red Bull. Their perception of their coordination and reaction time didn't match objective tests.

The potential for accidents and alcohol poisoning worries Dr. Sandra Braganza, a pediatrician and nutrition expert at the Children's Hospital at Montefiore in New York. As she prepared to write an article about energy drinks for a pediatrics journal, she was surprised how little published research she could find on them.

"The truth is, we don't know what kind of effects these ingredients can have," Braganza said of taurine, glucuronolactone and guarana. "We have to start doing more studies on this."

"How much of your favorite energy drink or soda would it take to kill you? Take this quick test and find out." - From a "Death by Caffeine" calculator on the Web site, www.energyfiend.com. Fill in your weight and click the button marked "Kill Me."

Earlier this month, a new study found a surprising number of caffeine overdose reports to a Chicago poison control center. These involved young people taking alertness pills such as NoDoz or energy drinks, sometimes mixed with alcohol or other drugs. During three years of reports to the center, the researchers found 265 cases of caffeine abuse. Twelve percent of those required a trip to the hospital. The average age of the caffeine user was 21.

"Young people are taking caffeine to stay awake, or perhaps to get high, and many of them are ending up in the emergency department," said Dr. Danielle McCarthy of Northwestern University, who conducted the study. "Caffeine is a drug and should be treated with caution, as any drug is."

How much caffeine do energy drinks contain? A University of Florida study found that some products, although served in cans two-thirds the size of a standard can of Coke, contain two to four times the amount of caffeine as that Coke. Energy drinks are unregulated in the United States, but the authors of the University of Florida paper suggest warning labels for them.

And now energy drinks are moving toward bigger cans with some products raising the caffeine content to gain a competitive edge, said John Sicher of Beverage Digest. The biggest, so far, is 24 ounces.

Parents should think twice before sending their children out the door with an energy drink, said Molly Morgan, a dietitian in upstate New York who consults with schools and talks to students, parents and coaches about energy drinks.

"My message to parents is moderation," Morgan said. "That means one can a day or less, and view it as a treat, not part of a daily routine."
Full of sugar and caffeine, energy drinks share the same health problems as soft drinks, she said. But some parents and coaches have bought the message that the drinks can enhance kids' performance in sports and increase concentration in school.

The evidence is weak, involving tiny studies. British research by a scientist who has since received funding from Red Bull found that among 36 volunteers, those who drank the product improved aerobic endurance and recalled numbers better. A British study of 42 people found Red Bull had no effect on memory, but did improve attention and verbal reasoning.

A University of Wisconsin study of 14 students found that two energy drink ingredients, caffeine and taurine, didn't improve short-term memory but led to slower heart rates and higher blood pressure. Since some energy drink ingredients generally speed up heart rates, the researchers could only speculate on the cause.

Carol Ann Rinzler, author of "Nutrition for Dummies," examined the labels of the top three energy drinks.

"The labels simply don't deliver all the facts," she said. "For example, while all list caffeine as an ingredient, and most tell you exactly how much caffeine is in the drink, they also list guarana, a caffeine source, as a separate ingredient but don't tell how much caffeine one gets from the guarana."

Rinzler said energy drinks also deliver a huge hit of sugar.

"Drink more than one and you get lots of sugar - 14 teaspoons in two cans, 21 teaspoons in three," she said. Add in megadoses of some vitamins; unnecessary nutrients (taurine) and more caffeine than plain sodas and you get "a fast up-and-down sugar high and a really rough caffeine buzz," she said. "And drinking two or three cans a day for a period of weeks or months might trigger some side effects from the vitamin megadoses."

New brands are appearing at the rate of almost one per day, making it difficult for Denver blogger Dan Mayer to keep up. As a hobby, Mayer reviews each new energy drink he can find. His is not the only energy drink review site, but it's one of the most popular.

"I've reviewed a little over 200 now. For most of these, the companies contact me. I'll find something new at 7-Eleven once in a while, but that's kind of rare," he said.

When Mayer meets an energy drink he doesn't like, his words can sting: "This is the kind of drink that was created by a bunch of rich fat people that have never had an energy drink in their life and really don't understand why this fad is around, they just know they want to be a part of the profit from it."

A Los Angeles company has asked him to design a new drink, but Mayer hasn't quit his day job yet. Pressed to explain the appeal of energy drinks, the 24-year-old spokesman for the buzzed generation said: "It's Starbucks for kids. With the tons of caffeine they put into these things, it gives you a little legal form of speed essentially."

That stuff is bad for the heart and has insane amounts of sodium.

hi565
10-30-06, 02:57 PM
I'm surprised that your surprised EJ...

TexasGuy
10-30-06, 06:41 PM
What is funny is that there are numerous studies that have shown that Caffeeine
Drastically Reduces the risk of quite a few cancers
and that unprocessed caffeine helps your vascular system, epsecially so in age 50+ up.
Not to say that "energy drinks" aren't bad due to other things that are in them. I just find it amusing that everybody wants to put the blame on Caffeine like its okay to drink 5 cups of sugar a day but its not okay to take caffeine.

ChAnMaN
10-30-06, 07:32 PM
Still going to keep chugging my energy drinks when I want them. I may die before the health nuts but I'm going to enjoy my life way more than them as well.

lmao

being healthy and free of medical problems is going to lead to the more successful and enjoyable life, the joy you get from drinking red bull will not come close.

TexasGuy
10-30-06, 07:35 PM
lmao

being healthy and free of medical problems is going to lead to the more successful and enjoyable life, the joy you get from drinking red bull will not come close.
By your definition of a "successful and enjoyable life". Your defnition is just that, your definition. It is not somebody elses.

EJ123
10-30-06, 07:52 PM
Yea, because energy drinks are just sugar, right? And what does my user title have to do with this? People who try to find fault in others must be so miserable. Have a nice day.
Well no not necessarily.

DannoXYZ
10-30-06, 09:29 PM
What is funny is that there are numerous studies that have shown that Caffeeine
Drastically Reduces the risk of quite a few cancers
and that unprocessed caffeine helps your vascular system, epsecially so in age 50+ up.
Not to say that "energy drinks" aren't bad due to other things that are in them. I just find it amusing that everybody wants to put the blame on Caffeine like its okay to drink 5 cups of sugar a day but its not okay to take caffeine.Caffeine also reduces the effects of excessive drinking (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/13/ap/health/mainD8I713KG0.shtml) as well (cirrhosis of liver). However, Red Bull tastes like cr@p, no matter what kind of alcohol you mix with it...

Pheard
10-30-06, 09:40 PM
Caffeine also reduces the effects of excessive drinking (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/13/ap/health/mainD8I713KG0.shtml) as well (cirrhosis of liver). However, Red Bull tastes like cr@p, no matter what kind of alcohol you mix with it...
Really. Why do people drink red bull? it tastes like cough medicine.

Taerom
10-30-06, 09:43 PM
it tastes like cough medicine.

Cough medicine is good. I'm just sayin....

TexasGuy
10-30-06, 10:08 PM
Really. Why do people drink red bull? it tastes like cough medicine.
Why do people smoke or drink?

KnhoJ
10-30-06, 11:17 PM
That article is too long. Anyone care to sum it up for me?
Okay! Paraphrased from the article:

"This is the kind of article that was created by a bunch of rich fat people that have never had an energy drink in their life and really don't understand why this fad is around, they just know they want to be a part of the profit from it."

Taerom
10-31-06, 12:05 AM
Also the scary thing about some of these energy drinks is that people are mixing them with alcohol.

Ha, one of my friends sent me a message earlier that he was studying for a calc exam. He was going to mix brandy with black coffee or something like that. I doubt that is going well...

Taerom
10-31-06, 12:06 AM
I'll stick to Dew and Whiskey, the best combination, ever.

Michigander
10-31-06, 08:30 AM
I haven't had caffein in 3 months. I have good blood pressure and a 52 beat per minute resting heart rate. I have more energy than ever before in my life. I think I'll keep it that way.

explody pup
10-31-06, 08:39 AM
Ha, one of my friends sent me a message earlier that he was studying for a calc exam. He was going to mix brandy with black coffee or something like that. I doubt that is going well...
Hot coffee and brandy or sherry is great. Especially on one of those winter days that you just can't get warm no matter what you do.

explody pup
10-31-06, 08:40 AM
I'll stick to Dew and Whiskey, the best combination, ever.
Gah! That is an affront to whiskey, everywhere. If you absolutely have to have something mixed with your whiskey, it should be water. Specifically, ice.

Falkon
10-31-06, 08:43 AM
Energy drinks are so stupid.

werd. Working out and biking while on a caffeine kick sucks as well.

Falkon
10-31-06, 08:44 AM
Gah! That is an affront to whiskey, everywhere. If you absolutely have to have something mixed with your whiskey, it should be water. Specifically, ice.

eh, I'm rather fond of Jack Daniels and coke, but I'm also not a hard drinker.

DirtPedalerB
10-31-06, 06:27 PM
i like jaeger and redbull.. the jaeger bomb or whatever. vodka and redbull... bleh .. vodka tastes like hairspray.

I thought the whole striped shirt (http://www.thephatphree.com/features.asp?StoryID=239&SectionID=11&LayoutType=1) article killed the redbull usage

EJ123
10-31-06, 06:38 PM
Bawls Guarana is not bad. I wish they had a low dose shot of that drink.

slvoid
11-01-06, 12:16 PM
I have a red bull a day along with a lot of soda at night. Resting heart rate is low 40's, every once in the while it hits near dead 40. Blood pressure's 139/79, not too shabby.