Southern California - Wow, it works!

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urbanknight
10-30-06, 09:33 PM
So the SFVBC had a warning out that cops in Agoura and Simi are cracking down on traffic violations (both vehicles and bicycles), and mentioned that turning on a red arrow just because it won't change isn't necessarily legal. They recommend (if you have a steel bike) finding the sensor and swaying your bike back and fourth across it. I tried this at a light today when no cars were getting behind me and I think it worked! I might have found a new reason to stay with steel forever!


jschen
10-30-06, 09:37 PM
I've had pretty good success activating traffic signals with my bike despite a minimum of steel on the thing. Parking right over the edge of the sensor often does the trick. Extort has shown me how having a tire physically on the sensor often works, too. (Perhaps even better than trying to get what little ferrous material I have over the edge of the sensor.) I don't have a 100% success rate between those two methods, but it works most of the time.

urbanknight
10-30-06, 09:39 PM
Cool, by edge do you mean the edge closest to the intersection?


jschen
10-30-06, 09:42 PM
You usually can see an outline of the sensor on the road. You get right on the edge of that outline--doesn't matter which edge--rather than in the middle of the sensor. The sensors are tripped by minute changes in the electrical currents running through them. So putting a ferrous part over the edge can do the trick. Manipulating the current by pressing a tire against the sensor can do it, too.

Mo'Phat
10-30-06, 09:59 PM
I just carry a 10lb magnet in my shorts.

bitingduck
10-30-06, 10:24 PM
It doesn't have to be ferrous-- just conducting. The sensors will produce eddy currents in an aluminum rim and detect the resulting fields.

jsigone
10-30-06, 10:25 PM
some lights are more stubborn then others

ADlBOO
10-30-06, 10:41 PM
When making a right turn if its not changing for me, or when theres a lot of oncoming traffic, ill just hop in the cross walk from the right turn lane then cross when the light changes and continue...

jschen
10-30-06, 10:45 PM
It doesn't have to be ferrous-- just conducting. The sensors will produce eddy currents in an aluminum rim and detect the resulting fields.
Okay... that makes a bit better sense.

Chucklehead
10-30-06, 10:53 PM
I just carry a 10lb magnet in my shorts.

yeah, me too. a 10lb chick magnet:beer:

jschen
10-30-06, 10:54 PM
yeah, me too. a 10lb chick magnet:beer:
Where can I get one of those? Does Performance sell them? :o

Chucklehead
10-30-06, 11:41 PM
haven't seen them at performance. not that i've looked or anything...

ovoleg
10-30-06, 11:44 PM
It doesn't have to be ferrous-- just conducting. The sensors will produce eddy currents in an aluminum rim and detect the resulting fields.


Thankfully I just took an electromagnetism course last quarter so I understood what you said...lol

Brandy
10-30-06, 11:44 PM
yeah, me too. a 10lb chick magnet:beer:

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Brandy
10-30-06, 11:48 PM
Someone posted this at TE a while back...

http://www.humantransport.org/bicycledriving/library/signals/green.htm

ovoleg
10-31-06, 01:05 AM
Where exactly is the sensor???

thomson
10-31-06, 05:16 AM
If there is a particular intersection where the light won't trip, you can contact the city to adjust the sensitivity.

Mo'Phat
10-31-06, 07:37 AM
Where can I get one of those? Does Performance sell them? :o

Hi-Tech Bikes has them...strangely, in their "Ultra-Lightweight Parts" section. Odd.

roadfix
10-31-06, 10:20 AM
...or get one of these. (http://www.themirt.com/) :p

devilinblack
10-31-06, 10:32 AM
...or get one of these. (http://www.themirt.com/) :p

The problem with that is that most cities around here don't have the sensors. According to a cop I know, Buena Park is the only city in OC that uses them.

I recently asked a Cypress cop if I was likely to get a ticket for blowing red left turn arrows and he told me that none of the guys he knows would bother. Only reason I asked was because I was about to run the light when I saw him coming up behind me, so I stopped.

urbanknight
10-31-06, 02:29 PM
Where exactly is the sensor???
You'll see a circle or an octagon in the asphalt, the outline being a crack or rubber strip. The light I tried this on actually has 3 of them, probably to tell how many cars are waiting.


I just carry a 10lb magnet in my shorts.
Oh, so THAT'S what that was. The gals will be disappointed.

lsits
10-31-06, 03:14 PM
I put my chainring directly above the outline of the sensor. Works about 80% of the time.

Haufigga
10-31-06, 03:23 PM
Cool Greg Moore tribute video. The good old days of CART.