Foo - things I dont know, but get scared to ask.

There are always things we just dont know and we just go along cause we are afraid to ask,
so Ill start cause not knowing is bugging me.
what is the relation between Starbucks and cyclists?
Im totally missing the joke here.
people make jokes about the relation of those two, what is it?
Like superdex also has Starbucks is my kickstand.
anyone care to explain?

Poseur bikers like to hang out at coffee shops.

Starbucks is the ultimate poseur coffee shop.

Hence, extreme poseur bikers hang out at Starbucks. :D

Starbucks is evil.

I always wondered why singlespeeds are so attractive, and why people think that ss mtbing puts them into a category above everyone else. I'm referring to a thread in the mtbing forum that lasted about 8 pages where ss folks basically acted like they are better for being ssers.

yep - saab has it right.

ohhh we dont have a Starbucks here.. so I guess Im missing the poseur hang out!

Starbucks is evil.


Oh cummon.

Do they put up a big pretense? Sure. Is their product sub-standard to the elite coffee consumer? Probably. Does that make them evil? I don't think so.

Starbucks is to coffee what Microsoft is to computing. Sure, it's easy to call them the big evil megacorp that's ruining your life, but they both played a pretty pivotal roll in bringing things to the average joe, even if they had to be watered down to accomplish that.

Starbucks is evil.

While I am not a fan of their coffee, the Starbucks phenomenon is quite interesting. It's somewhat the opposite of Wal-Mart.

Starbucks moves into a community, charges a lot MORE for their drinks, and still runs the competition into the ground. I think what people like about them is the consistency from store to store. They, along with Dunkin' Donuts (the blue collar Starbucks anymore) are kind of the McDonalds of coffee. No matter where you are, you know you're going to get basically the same service, quality, and reputation. And maybe some wi-fi.

That's overly simplistic, but I find it interesting. People will pay extra for consistency.

Discuss.

ohhh we dont have a Starbucks here.. so I guess Im missing the poseur hang out!

Downtown Portsmouth and also in Kittery across from the Trading Post. Of course, I just go to Dunkin Donuts.

starbucks is like the wallmart of "cool". it's everywhere and yet tries to feel like part of the local community.

i recently learned that our little convience store in my work building was forced to sign a "non-competitive" agreement with starbucks before they moved in. the guy had been there years before starbucks even showed interest in the place. so, to stay where he was, he had to agree not to sell coffee anymore.

That's overly simplistic, but I find it interesting. People will pay extra for consistency.

Discuss.

IMHO, the average Starbucks consumer is also paying premium for what they interpret to be a premium, "cool" experience. Which is exactly why other people, who want to seem even cooler and more premium, seem to take so much joy in putting Starbucks down. I mean, if those people think something is cool, and I think it's dumb, I must be WAY cooler than them!

Downtown Portsmouth and also in Kittery across from the Trading Post. Of course, I just go to Dunkin Donuts.
I shall check out the portsmouth location on saturday morning! Ill go in full gear waering a # from one of my race, making them all scared that they missed one! :lol:

IMHO, the average Starbucks consumer is also paying premium for what they interpret to be a premium, "cool" experience. Which is exactly why other people, who want to seem even cooler and more premium, seem to take so much joy in putting Starbucks down. I mean, if those people think something is cool, and I think it's dumb, I must be WAY cooler than them!
stop!!!!! here's another one I wanted to ask!
what is IMHO??????

In My Humble Opinion. :)

if you don't want to be humble you can just use IMO.

stop!!!!! here's another one I wanted to ask!
what is IMHO??????
In my humble opinion

IMO= In my opinion

anyone have any wisdom to share on the ss culture?

In my himble opinion. People who are trying to sound cool while they're posting on internet forums use it to cover up the fact that they're stuck up and egotistical. :D

IMHO, the average Starbucks consumer is also paying premium for what they interpret to be a premium, "cool" experience. Which is exactly why other people, who want to seem even cooler and more premium, seem to take so much joy in putting Starbucks down. I mean, if those people think something is cool, and I think it's dumb, I must be WAY cooler than them!

Oh yeah, I forgot one point.... Starbucks spikes their $3+ drinks with pure uncut Afgani heroin. I mean, there has to be a reason people at work get the shakes around 9:30 am and then suddenly are calm after their visit to the Starbucks...

can't help you, BDG! i don't even like coffee... much less want to stop long enough to order and drink something like that on the ride! (rides are for RIDING not stopping for hours at rest stops/coffee shops!)

I shall check out the portsmouth location on saturday morning! Ill go in full gear waering a # from one of my race, making them all scared that they missed one! :lol:

Market St. across from the church where they're replacing the steeple.

can't help you, BDG! i don't even like coffee... much less want to stop long enough to order and drink something like that on the ride! (rides are for RIDING not stopping for hours at rest stops/coffee shops!)
I'm with you! coffee taste like coal. I'd prefer hot cocoa or some gatorade. Plus sitting for an hour at a coffee shop is my idea of boring.

anyone have any wisdom to share on the ss culture?

I understand you are not riding due to a broken derailer? If you rode singlespeed you wouldn't have that problem.

I don't know why you haven't done a quick conversion so you can hit the trails. I would have.

OK since you guys know me enough not to judge and this is my chance..
here's one more, but.... please be respectful, one straight answer,
why cant mormons have coffee?????

...I think what people like about them is the consistency from store to store...

+1 - especially knowing that where ever I go, If I really don't fancy the local restaurants, starbucks will be mostly the same(98% of the time)

Out of all I've tried - Kuwait City had the biggest portions and the best quality, Bern the most expensive by a long, long way

That said until I can take my bike into the shop they're not on my list of stops while cycling.

In my humble opinion

IMO= In my opinion

anyone have any wisdom to share on the ss culture?

Pheard, I think its just like any other culture out there. Like messagers, they don't really hang with other crowds outside of theirs.

I date a SS, he is not the kind of person you mention. But I will tell you he is tough, can ride hard and is VERY strong. But he is very humble individual. He has done some tough races out there. I think you might have a few jerks out there and that gives people like you a bad taste. My bf has his SS friends that he rides with but he will never turn down a ride even if its with a gearie. :) But don't complain when your bike breaks :)

There are always a few guys/gals out there that ruin the good taste sort to speak for others. I'm sorry for that.

OK since you guys know me enough not to judge and this is my chance..
here's one more, but.... please be respectful, one straight answer,
why cant mormons have coffee?????

I think it's Mormon = No Caffeine.

That eliminates a lot of fun drinks. No Red Bull for You, Utah!

OK since you guys know me enough not to judge and this is my chance..
here's one more, but.... please be respectful, one straight answer,
why cant mormons have coffee?????

"The Lord's response, contained in D&C section 89, covered far more than just tobacco; it also restricted the consumption of wine, liquor, meat, and hot drinks (today interpreted to mean tea and coffee of any temperature)."

From What's Not on the Mormon Menu (http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-2913.html)

OK since you guys know me enough not to judge and this is my chance..
here's one more, but.... please be respectful, one straight answer,
why cant mormons have coffee?????
In the word of wisdom we are counceled not to partake of "hot drinks"(coffee and tea). As this commandment is based on interpretation, some consider it to mean no caffeine, and some consider it to only refer to "hot drinks".


Pheard, I think its just like any other culture out there. Like messagers, they don't really hang with other crowds outside of theirs.

I date a SS, he is not the kind of person you mention. But I will tell you he is tough, can ride hard and is VERY strong. But he is very humble individual. He has done some tough races out there. I think you might have a few jerks out there and that gives people like you a bad taste. My bf has his SS friends that he rides with but he will never turn down a ride even if its with a gearie. But don't complain when your bike breaks

There are always a few guys/gals out there that ruin the good taste sort to speak for others. I'm sorry for that.

I never got that. We are all bikers. Yet everything has to be separated into clicks. Roadies-mtbikers, ss, geared, dh, fr, dj, xc, etc. ARG!

I think it's Mormon = No Caffeine.

That eliminates a lot of fun drinks. No Red Bull for You, Utah!
but why no caffeine? cause it's seen as a drug??

That said until I can take my bike into the shop they're not on my list of stops while cycling.

Yeah, but how much fun would it be to see a would-be thief trying to steal a bike with Power Cranks?? :eek: :)

do you know why no hot drinks pheard? what's the belief behind this?

I think you might have a few jerks out there and that gives people like you a bad taste.

Tell where there aren't jerks that think they are better than everyone else?

I want to live on that planet. Maybe.

Without competition and drive we would be jelly creatures feeding off slime molds for recreation, constantly putting ourselves down.

Jelly no.1:"No, really...you are a better slime mold gatherer than I am!"

Jelly no.2:"Do you really think so? Because I always found your slime-mold gathering technique superior to mine!".

Like Maya Angelou said "Be always humble, but never modest".

Afraid to ask: Why does it burn so bad when I go pee?

Afraid to ask: Why does it burn so bad when I go pee?
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Afraid to ask: Why does it burn so bad when I go pee?
'Cause you're holding it too tight. Relax the grip.

do you know why no hot drinks pheard? what's the belief behind this?
Back in joseph smiths time. We had members chewing tobacco and spitting it out into spitoons during church meetings, and of course I'm sure members drunk tea. Joseph smith received revelation for the "word of wisdom". It includes many things such as tobacco, wine, "hot drinks", eating meat in moderation, etc. We believe that by following the word of wisdom we "shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones".

In other words, hot drinks contain caffeine, which is a drug(caffeine is addictive therefore it is considered unhealthy). We don't believe in drinking it for that reason. But as I said many people interpret the word of wisdom differently and still drink caffeinated soda.

Afraid to ask: Why does it burn so bad when I go pee?
time to get out of that tight spandex

In the word of wisdom we are counceled not to partake of "hot drinks"(coffee and tea). As this commandment is based on interpretation, some consider it to mean no caffeine, and some consider it to only refer to "hot drinks".



I never got that. We are all bikers. Yet everything has to be separated into clicks. Roadies-mtbikers, ss, geared, dh, fr, dj, xc, etc. ARG!

Its just different. I can't really explain it but it is just different.

Pheard. Go to a mountain bike race though. Its super cool. Everyone is so supportive of eachother!! Its one of the most powerful places to be. :)

Back in joseph smiths time. We had members chewing tobacco and spitting it out into spitoons during church meetings, and of course I'm sure members drunk tea. Joseph smith received revelation for the "word of wisdom". It includes many things such as tobacco, wine, "hot drinks", eating meat in moderation, etc. We believe that by following the word of wisdom we "shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones".
thanks pheard:)

Its just different. I can't really explain it but it is just different.

Pheard. Go to a mountain bike race though. Its super cool. Everyone is so supportive of eachother!! Its one of the most powerful places to be. :)
Man I wish I'd gone to sea otter. I didn't really know how big it was till after the fact, but monterey is 2 hours away from me!!

At some point I hope to do some xc racing myself. That's why I need to get my bike built.


Np bdg :) I also added some more explanation to my post bdg

here is something i don't know:

what exactly are hemorroids? pimples on the butt? sore spots? what the heck are they and how do you get them? everyone i know laughs when they see the preperation H commericals but no one seems to be able to tell me what they are. i suppose i could look it up on webmd, but maybe you guys know.

Afraid to ask: Why does it burn so bad when I go pee?
You were just supposed to let the dogs out....not do anything with them afterward.

here is something i don't know:

what exactly are hemorroids? pimples on the butt? sore spots? what the heck are they and how do you get them? everyone i know laughs when they see the preperation H commericals but no one seems to be able to tell me what they are. i suppose i could look it up on webmd, but maybe you guys know.
It has to do with inflamation of the veins somewhere around the butt, rectum, or something to that effect.

OK...my turn. I think I've figured it out, but I want to be sure.

What is a "Fred" ?


I have gathered from the connotation I've seen it used, its somebody on a bike who is a total non-biker type, no bike shorts, t-shirt, Wal-mart bike, etc.... Is that right?

You were just supposed to let the dogs out....not do anything with them afterward.
Ohhhhhhhh... I thought you meant that figuratively.

Does anyone have any penicillin?

That's me! Tee-shirt, cut off shorts, sneakers, POS gas pipe Raleigh = Fred :D

Yep Hemmorids are veins that get inflamed. They can be internal and external and horribly painful. The removal process is painful as well. Just imagine going poo and blood coming out consistly. Its uncomfortable and very frustrating for the person. They say 1 out 3 people get them in their lifetime.

No I don't have them.

here is something i don't know:

what exactly are hemorroids? pimples on the butt? sore spots? what the heck are they and how do you get them? everyone i know laughs when they see the preperation H commericals but no one seems to be able to tell me what they are. i suppose i could look it up on webmd, but maybe you guys know.
isnt it just an inflamation due to some trauma? it is very common after giving birth.

No I don't have them.
And if you said you did.....I for one would NOT post a "this thread is worthless without pics" monkier! ;)

Afraid to ask: Why does it burn so bad when I go pee?

Pray its not kidney stones. I'm getting mine pulverized on the 17th. Yippee!! :D

OK...my turn. I think I've figured it out, but I want to be sure.

What is a "Fred" ?


I have gathered from the connotation I've seen it used, its somebody on a bike who is a total non-biker type, no bike shorts, t-shirt, Wal-mart bike, etc.... Is that right?
OK I think i got that one figured out.
I dont think it's how he is in full gears pretending to be someone else like a poseur.
I think a fred is how he acts, like he knows what he is doing but doesnt know how to keep a pace line ect, endangering everyone on a ride.
Or someone who cant stay in the line on a group ride and just wants to take the lead to show off how good he is when he has nothing to prove but to just keep the line for the whole group to stay in a safe position.
someone who endangers others with his not well thought actions