Foo - I had my neighbor arrested tonight.

Sorry I caused a such negative response. I didn't know this site was so negative Law enforcement.

isnt that such a fun time, we get call the police on our neighbors quit often, they have been quite latley

People have no respect anymore. No respect for authority, the law, or simply other people in general. This is so sad.

Plant some drugs in their apartment, and arrest everyone. I hated apartment living.

Cops are a necessary Evil

Plant some drugs in their apartment, and arrest everyone. I hated apartment living.

Remember to use a rich soil and proper fertilizer when you plant them, and give them lots of light.

Cops are a necessary Evil


Why?

Sorry I caused a such negative response. I didn't know this site was so negative Law enforcement.

Sorry I caused a such negative response. I didn't know this site was so negative Law enforcement.

For some reason, not only do I not think you are a cop...but I ALSO suspect that you are under 16 years of age.

:lol: Wow, you're a winner!

Sorry I caused a such negative response. I didn't know this site was so negative Law enforcement.

woopdeedo your a local cop.....
get over yourself.

I don't understand why people have negative views about police. They make a lot of sacrifices (risking their lives) in a job that doesn't pay as well as it should. They are usually the first to be called when there is a problem.

If you are not doing anything wrong, then there should be no fear.

Another job that I feel is underpaid are firefighters. They risk their lives to save others.

Local heroes :)

I don't understand why people have negative wiews about police. They make a lot of sacrifices (risking their lives) in a job that doesn't pay as well as it should. They are usually the first to be called when there is a problem.

If you are not doing anything wrong, then there should be no fear.

Another job that I feel is underpaid are firefighters. They risk their lives to save others.

Local heroes :)

Yeah, I certainly hope you (Glenfiddich_Man) don't think we ALL share the same view on law enforcement. I greatly appreciate what you, and your brethren, are doing to keep us safe. Just ignore the little punks who like to talk trash...

Also I got a few friends for the guy if he want to continue to start ****** with me. If it happens outside my apartment, its a taser. And anyone that breaks into my place is greeted with a 40 cal Glock.

Sure, there is a place and a time for a show of lethal force, but honestly, statements like this are why police scare the **** out of me. Otoh, I was chatting with my buddy about this, and he stated it's probably just e-p33n, and in this context police are just people wrt to their personal space. So, I suppose it's not that a police officer is this aggressive regarding their personal space that bothers me so much as anyone is this aggressive about their personal space. Anyway, GL with your nutty neighbors provided this wasn't a troll. :)

Sure, there is a place and a time for a show of lethal force, but honestly, statements like this are why police scare the **** out of me. Otoh, I was chatting with my buddy about this, and he stated it's probably just e-p33n, and in this context police are just people wrt to their personal space. So, I suppose it's not that a police officer is this aggressive regarding their personal space that bothers me so much as anyone is this aggressive about their personal space. Anyway, GL with your nutty neighbors provided this wasn't a troll. :)
I didn't say I would shoot him, just that I know the laws. I will do what is necessary to take him into custody. But if I am sleeping and hear someone breaking in, I am going to grab my pistol every time.

Why advertise you're a cop? Doesn't that just put you out there to be a target for anti-police people?

Yeah, I certainly hope you (Glenfiddich_Man) don't think we ALL share the same view on law enforcement. I greatly appreciate what you, and your brethren, are doing to keep us safe. Just ignore the little punks who like to talk trash...


Yep I agree with you Taerom. I've been fortunate to see both sides and let me tell you, cops are not out to harrass people. Why add more stress to your life when you have to deal with it 10 hours a day while on shift? Everyday they come up to a circumstance where all you have to give you info is the dispatcher. They are the lifeline of communication. The dispatcher gets the info from the caller who is usually in a panic or does not have all of the facts straight. Cops go into situations blindly. They do not know who they are dealing with and have to adjust themselves to the issue at hand. It takes skill, smarts, patience, fair judgement and a calm personality to be able to handle this. Every call that they take is a risk. Every nite their wives have to wonder if this is the last time she will say goodbye. Every nite the cop wonders if his kiss goodnite to his children was his last.

I give them Kudos

I didn't say I would shoot him, just that I know the laws. I will do what is necessary to take him into custody. But if I am sleeping and hear someone breaking in, I am going to grab my pistol every time.

That's what scares the **** outa me. Things that are designed specifically to kill people that is. ;)
I hope that police officers are trained such that they could take nearly anyone into custody w/o exhibition of lethal force, but I suppose that'd require too much training/skill to be practical.

Why advertise you're a cop? Doesn't that just put you out there to be a target for anti-police people?

Yeah, and then the "anti-police people" become targets for us "pro-police people". :)

Why advertise you're a cop? Doesn't that just put you out there to be a target for anti-police people?
If you mean at home, everyone see's me coming and going from work. I know what most of my neighbors do for work also.

As for hear, I was just sharing a story what happened tonight. Being an officer is just a part of my life, it's who I am.

That's what scares the **** outa me. Things that are designed specifically to kill people that is. ;)
I hope that police officers are trained such that they could take nearly anyone into custody w/o exhibition of lethal force, but I suppose that'd require too much training/skill to be practical.
we do, there is a level of force progression. When someone is breaking into a house (burglary) that is a felony. Policy and law states that weapons can be drawn in forcible felonies, which it would be. So i am 100% justified in doing so. The level of the officer is always dictated on what the bad guy(s) is doing.

See, this whole thing would've been better if the guy got tazed and you got it on video.

If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, the only way they are leaving is on a stretcher. End of story.

we do, there is a level of force progression. When someone is breaking into a house (burglary) that is a felony. Policy and law states that weapons can be drawn in forcible felonies, which it would be. So i am 100% justified in doing so. The level of the officer is always dictated on what the bad guy(s) is doing.

The idea of force progression in and of itself isn't that bad, it's that it escalates so rapidly wrt to what's considered a felony that bothers me. The person may or may not be there to do personal harm, but until that's been determined, the exhibition of lethal force is just nuts. The only thing that should be met with an exhibition of lethal force is a direct threat to an individuals health/safety imho...

The idea of force progression in and of itself isn't that bad, it's that it escalates so rapidly wrt to what's considered a felony that bothers me. The person may or may not be there to do personal harm, but until that's been determined, the exhibition of lethal force is just nuts. The only thing that should be met with an exhibition of lethal force is a direct threat to an individuals health/safety imho...
Florida law is a little different to your feelings. remember I never said I was going to shoot him, only that I will be drawing down and then assessing where to go. It's really hard to explain how quick things happen to y'all, but its quick. All the fights and incidents I have been through while working happen so fast.
To let you know civilians are 100% allowed to draw down, and even shoot intruders. In Florida that is.
And I ask you this. Do you think its is really negligent on my part to make a basic assumption that someone breaking into the home of a police officer, that they have possibly more motive then a common burglary?

But how do you know where it will escalate? An aggressive person on drugs or already in a frenzy won't care and will go full force against those in his "territory". It's animal instinct. Cops will not wait and hem and haw and hope the aggression goes away. Yes they are somewhat patient but they also have to make it clear that the perpetrator will not be allowed to take control of the situation. The training cops endure is not designed to be forceful but rather to have the problem under control in a peaceful manner as fast as possible.

and that is why I call the police on my neighbors, if i were to deal with it I would shoot them, but I would need a gun first.

their job is not easy having to deal with these kind of people give them some credit.
I have noticed that the poeple that dont like cops are usally the ones that have somthing to hide or are guilty of somthing

I don't understand why people have negative views about police. They make a lot of sacrifices (risking their lives) in a job that doesn't pay as well as it should. They are usually the first to be called when there is a problem.

If you are not doing anything wrong, then there should be no fear.

Another job that I feel is underpaid are firefighters. They risk their lives to save others.

Local heroes :)


Good cops are great, average cops (most) make cops look bad (public perception as cops need to be perfect), bad cops get on TV (guess where that one goes)....

Simple rules to being a cop, and it applies to teachers too...(although personally, I dont like teachers, I found 95% of them useless. Not always their fault but a system with generic training instead of realizing some young students have focus and skill....in one freaking area haha)

Oh great, c-v's winning attitude has flooded into foo. I'm gunna sick dipper and kris on him.

and really it's pretty obvious he's a cop. He's posted multiple picture of him in uniform and in civilian clothing. Plus, I fully think you did what was right fich, and I think your a good person for having the balls to call up you're buddies.

Florida law is a little different to your feelings. remember I never said I was going to shoot him, only that I will be drawing down and then assessing where to go. It's really hard to explain how quick things happen to y'all, but its quick. All the fights and incidents I have been through while working happen so fast.
To let you know civilians are 100% allowed to draw down, and even shoot intruders. In Florida that is.
And I ask you this. Do you think its is really negligent on my part to make a basic assumption that someone breaking into the home of a police officer, that they have possibly more motive then a common burglary?


Huh?


It's a statement like this, more than the otheres mentioned above that make me think you're not a cop, or if you are you have a real nasty ego trip.

My understanding of firearms defense (civi or leo) is:

1) Only draw in clear and present danger.
2) Don't pull your weapon unless your intentions are to use it
3) Never cover anything with your muzzle that you don't intend to shoot.

To 'draw down' on someone while evaluating 'where it will go' is brandishing, a threat of escalated and lethal force. It is coercion(sp), and in PA it's illegal. I believe that it illegal too in FL.

Sorry mate, I hope the next time I'm in your fair state, we don't meet while you're wearing your Smokey hat.

Do you think its is really negligent on my part to make a basic assumption that someone breaking into the home of a police officer, that they have possibly more motive then a common burglary?


negligent isn't the word that comes to mind, paranoid or arrogant are the ones i think of first.

since when is the entire state of FLA supposed to know that you are a police officer? do you have a big shield on your door?

Huh?


It's a statement like this, more than the otheres mentioned above that make me think you're not a cop, or if you are you have a real nasty ego trip.

My understanding of firearms defense (civi or leo) is:

1) Only draw in clear and present danger.
2) Don't pull your weapon unless your intentions are to use it
3) Never cover anything with your muzzle that you don't intend to shoot.

To 'draw down' on someone while evaluating 'where it will go' is brandishing, a threat of escalated and lethal force. It is coercion(sp), and in PA it's illegal. I believe that it illegal too in FL.

Sorry mate, I hope the next time I'm in your fair state, we don't meet while you're wearing your Smokey hat.
I am referring to someone breaking into my house, if you think that is not a danger you are way out of touch with reality.

Example: In clearing a building where a burglar alarm or that a resident feels is burglarized, we do a search of the house with weapons drawn. That is policy.

I implore anyone's who's house is being broken into to take the same steps.
Sorry but you couldn't be further from the truth when it comes to "brandishing law"
I advise you to be knowledgeable of the law before you comment on it.

negligent isn't the word that comes to mind, paranoid or arrogant are the ones i think of first.

since when is the entire state of FLA supposed to know that you are a police officer? do you have a big shield on your door?
Once you start arresting people and they threaten you and your family, you will have another outlook.

Is it too far off to say in the world now that someone wouldn't wait outside my police department and follow me home? I don't think so. I'm paranoid by no means, but you always have to be aware of things.

Call it what you want, but until you and your family is threatened, you will have no idea. I have arrested some very bad people, and would never put it past them to try something stupid.

Well since nobody else has had anything insightful to say in this thread i will simply state one more reason why i dislike cops.

4 Lanes of traffic doing 75 miles an hour safely. Cop i guess decides he is going to pull out of traffic and sit onthe side of the road and arrrest everybody. The only thing he doesnt seem to realise is that he pulled off right at a bridge overpass so there's not a complete lane. So he's about to get hit at 75mph by about 20 cars. The tail end that I saw was him pulling unceremoniously into the ditch while the rest of traffic swerved to avoid his dumb ass.

. Amazing how cops sworn to protect people , i see them endangering more and more people.

Well since nobody else has had anything insightful to say in this thread i will simply state one more reason why i dislike cops.

4 Lanes of traffic doing 75 miles an hour safely. Cop i guess decides he is going to pull out of traffic and sit onthe side of the road and arrrest everybody. The only thing he doesnt seem to realise is that he pulled off right at a bridge overpass so there's not a complete lane. So he's about to get hit at 75mph by about 20 cars. The tail end that I saw was him pulling unceremoniously into the ditch while the rest of traffic swerved to avoid his dumb ass.

. Amazing how cops sworn to protect people , i see them endangering more and more people.
I know it's no consolation for you, but I have saved multiple peoples lives. And done countless other good deeds that for the most part have gone unnoticed. I'm not expecting you to change your mind about police, you are entitled to your opinion.

Once you start arresting people and they threaten you and your family, you will have another outlook.

Is it too far off to say in the world now that someone wouldn't wait outside my police department and follow me home? I don't think so. I'm paranoid by no means, but you always have to be aware of things.

Call it what you want, but until you and your family is threatened, you will have no idea. I have arrested some very bad people, and would never put it past them to try something stupid.

:roflmao:

ok now i'm calling bs. have you been to a post certified academy or are you on some type of ride along jr cadet program or what?

you claim to have arrested heavy enough hitters to fear for you and your familys' safety but then you call for help in the handling of a simple drunk...something don't add up here.

if you know the law and are confident in your own abilities the risk you speak of is just about non-existent come on stop the bs now before i freaking puke.

:roflmao:

ok now i'm calling bs. have you been to a post certified academy or are you on some type of ride along jr cadet program or what?

you claim to have arrested heavy enough hitters to fear for you and your familys' safety but then you call for help in the handling of a simple drunk...something don't add up here.

if you know the law and are confident in your own abilities the risk you speak of is just about non-existent come on stop the bs now before i freaking puke.
My eldest brother was a cop.
My brother is not somebody that you want to meet and have a grudge. He carried a gun in the drivers side door tote bag. He would kill you without thinking twice and he is pretty much the a-typical cop that you see online, in videos and meet in real life off and on the beat.
That's why I feel people that "revere" cops as if they are something special are about as bad as Christians and Islams battling stuff in the name of their said religion deity.

:roflmao:

ok now i'm calling bs. have you been to a post certified academy or are you on some type of ride along jr cadet program or what?

you claim to have arrested heavy enough hitters to fear for you and your familys' safety but then you call for help in the handling of a simple drunk...something don't add up here.

if you know the law and are confident in your own abilities the risk you speak of is just about non-existent come on stop the bs now before i freaking puke.
I was off duty. Meaning I was in civilian cloths and had none of my equipment. How am i suppose to arrest a guy and take him in? Tie him out and throw him in the back of my pickup and drive him to the station?

Some of y'all come up with some crazy stuff. Like has been said, I have posted pictures of me here on duty and off duty. What on earth do I have to lie about?

post certified or not?

and your post is reads i had my neighbor arrested, now off duty at home you couldn't of made the arrest and simply called in for a marked patrol car to come to transport to the station to cross the tee's and dot the i's?

or are you not that far along in the game yet?

it just strikes me as odd your beating on your chest, proclaiming that you would shoot this and that but can't effect a simple arrest, maybe this is harder than just simply shooting someone or something?

but back to my first question.... post certified...y/n?

you claim to have arrested heavy enough hitters to fear for you and your familys' safety
I saw the picture, that aligator was HUGE!

post certified or not?

and your post is reads i had my neighbor arrested, now off duty at home you couldn't of made the arrest and simply called in for a marked patrol car to come to transport to the station to cross the tee's and dot the i's?

or are you not that far along in the game yet?

it just strikes me as odd your beating on your chest, proclaiming that you would shoot this and that but can't effect a simple arrest, maybe this is harder than just simply shooting someone or something?

but back to my first question.... post certified...y/n? I am Florida Certified as of June 2004. I completed 672 hours of police academy then took the state exam and passed in July of 2004. I was hired on August 9 2004. I have been a road patrol officer for that long. I am also a firearms instructor and ASP baton instructor.

Also:
Look a couple posts up why I didn't arrest him. Since I am a officer I just transferred PC (probable cause) over to the on duty officer.
And I never said I would just shoot a guy for no reason. I said if someone is breaking into my home, I will being going for a pistol. After that the person can explain what they are doing in my home.

I don't know what you do for work, but don't you want your personal time to be yours?

I saw the picture, that aligator was HUGE!
It was only an 8 footer. lol
Worst thing about wrestling a gator, the smell.

It was only an 8 footer. lol
Worst thing about wrestling a gator, the smell.
I see you haven't live in NH, try taken down a cow!

I see you haven't live in NH, try taken down a cow!
I did live on a farm in Michigan, thats where I am from. Mostly horses, but my good buddy had cows and pigs. I know exactly what you mean. Pigs can be tougher then cows. Unless its a bull.

My ex-husband is a Police Agent (Lakewood Police Dept). Police Agent is the new term they use. They no longer refer to themselves as cops. First I don't want to say who is what etc. But I will say that my ex told me that they are trained when off duty to be GREAT WITNESSES. An off duty police agent will be able to help fellow officers with information about a subject in detail then a lay-person. Maybe this guy was just doing what he is trained to do???

Secondly, an Police agent goes to work with the intention of coming home everyday. Its very well known that most police agent don't even live in the cities they work. This is for safety reasons.

I don't want to argue with anyone but these guys DAILY put their lives at risk. Answering a simple call out to an house, car accident etc could be very deadly. I think it takes alot for a person to be a police agent. They need A-typical attitudes to make it through their shifts. Remember while we are all sleeping in our warm beds they are out there doing a job we wouldn't want to do.

Lets not fight about stupid facts of who is what. Take it for what its worth and move on.

Good day peeps.
Snowy :)

I did live on a farm in Michigan, thats where I am from. Mostly horses, but my good buddy had cows and pigs. I know exactly what you mean. Pigs can be tougher then cows. Unless its a bull.
:lol: I was joking! why would i need to take down a cow for???
I can buy my own milk!:p

:lol: I was joking! why would i need to take down a cow for???
I can buy my own milk!:p
If you live on a farm, it's one of those things that comes up. lol
It's more of catching a loose cow. But we did have to catch pigs and castrate them, that's when they ran the hardest. They had to know what was coming. The farm life is fun, try it.

My ex-husband is a Police Agent (Lakewood Police Dept). Police Agent is the new term they use. They no longer refer to themselves as cops. First I don't want to say who is what etc. But I will say that my ex told me that they are trained when off duty to be GREAT WITNESSES. An off duty police agent will be able to help fellow officers with information about a subject in detail then a lay-person. Maybe this guy was just doing what he is trained to do???

Secondly, an Police agent goes to work with the intention of coming home everyday. Its very well known that most police agent don't even live in the cities they work. This is for safety reasons.

I don't want to argue with anyone but these guys DAILY put their lives at risk. Answering a simple call out to an house, car accident etc could be very deadly. I think it takes alot for a person to be a police agent. They need A-typical attitudes to make it through their shifts. Remember while we are all sleeping in our warm beds they are out there doing a job we wouldn't want to do.

Lets not fight about stupid facts of who is what. Take it for what its worth and move on.

Good day peeps.
Snowy :)
Exactly. Number 1 witness. I did go out also because my female neighbor was outside with a female friend, and this guy got in a verbal with them. So I did what any guy would do. I couldn't live with myself if something happened to an innocent neighbor while I was sitting in my home calling 911.

I know it's no consolation for you, but I have saved multiple peoples lives. And done countless other good deeds that for the most part have gone unnoticed. I'm not expecting you to change your mind about police, you are entitled to your opinion.

This has got to be either a rook or a wannabe - boasting about 'good deeds'. Dude, if you are a real cop, please refrain from making every other cop in the country look like an arse. If I was your TO I'd rap you up side the head.

I was off duty. Meaning I was in civilian cloths and had none of my equipment. How am i suppose to arrest a guy and take him in? Tie him out and throw him in the back of my pickup and drive him to the station?

Some of y'all come up with some crazy stuff. Like has been said, I have posted pictures of me here on duty and off duty. What on earth do I have to lie about?

You weren't carrying your badge and gun off duty...what are you a Disney World security guard?