Cyclocross - Looking at Jake the Snake
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04-12-03, 10:37 PM
My search for bike has lead me to fall in love with the cyclecross style of bike.
A shop near me is willing to order a new '03 model Jake the Snake for $929. I am 6'5" so I'd need the 60cm size to fit me. The measurements we took in the shop seemed to indicate that the 60 should fit me well.
From what I've read on this board it seems like this is a good bike, but I need to know if the price is fair. There isn't much competition way up here in Northern Michigan.
Iím moving to Indiana in the fall, which is why I want a more road type bike than mountain. Primary uses will be for light trail and road riding, commuting to and from school, around town and exercise.
Thanks in advance,
04-14-03, 10:36 AM
Cyclo-cross bikes are great, I have an Empella Bonfire I use for road riding, trail riding and cross racing. So I think they're a great investment. I've heard good things about the Jake and its seems to be a great value.
My thoughts are that the bike might be too small especially if your looking for something more road. I am 6'6" so I know sizing can be a problem. The TT seems short 58.5cm and you would probably show alot of post and spacers. I switched from a Bianchi 61cm st/59.5 tt to the Empella 63cm st/61 tt and found a better fit. No question the bike would fit with the right parts but, it might put you at the extrme end of things.
Is this your first bike? Buying from shops is great but, mail order can be a good option (especially in N. Michigan, greatings from SW Michigan).
04-14-03, 11:03 AM
Technically, it would be my 3rd bike.
Bike #1 my parents got for me when I was about 5 years old. It was a BMX style single speed.
Bike #2 my parents got for me when I was 11. It was an 18 speed mountain bike, about $300.
Obviously I've out grown both of those bikes.
I'd rather not do mail order for my first bike, I really need a shop to assemble and get me fitted right. I can't do it myself. I'll also like the ability to do adjustments throughout the summer before I move.
You really think the Jake will be too small for me? I really wish I could actually ride it before I buy, but that is going to be impossible. I don't want to be on the extreme end of things, because then the bike just looks silly.
I just did a quick internet search for the Bonfire you were talking about, all I came up with were frame parts. Could you maybe give me a link to a complete bike?
Thanks so much,
04-14-03, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by heldveld
The TT seems short 58.5cm and you would probably show alot of post and spacers.
I can't find anything on the measurements of this bike that says 58.5cm. Could you please tell me what you mean?
04-14-03, 11:55 AM
I have a Jake, and used to have two, so you know I like them a lot. Actually, my favorite cyclocross bike. It is better suited for trails and singletrack, though I do some road miles on it and it works well. I also have a Surly Crosscheck that I use more for road and it is a little better for strictly road use. I think the Jake is a better off road bike, and the Surly makes a better light trail/road bike, but that is just my opinion. For your type of riding, a Lemond Poprad or Surly may be worth checking into as well.
As far as size, I'm not sure.
The price seems fine, and it is a good value in cyclocross bikes. Just thought I'd throw in some other options as well, although like I said, the Jake is my personal favorite. Great bike.
04-14-03, 11:58 AM
(c) 23" x 2.54 = 58.5cm
I was hoping you had a previous road bike too use as a reference. I think the Jake would fit you but the shop would have to swap the stem and possibly seatpost. Another concern would be the number of spacers the bike comes with. My Bianchi was a frameset so they didn't cut the steerer (I was using all of it) but with a complete bike they might cut it down limiting you. Check with your shop on this fact. Empellas are available only as a frameset.
Of couse without knowing all your measurements its hard to say. Did the shop do a formal 'fit session' or just your inseam?
I hate having to buy all my bikes without test rides too, no shops carry the largest sizes! They may have a similar sized road bike that you could use as a reference though.
04-14-03, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by roadrage
For your type of riding, a Lemond Poprad or Surly may be worth checking into as well.
It's quite disheartening to hear you say I'm going to need to space out the Jake so much.
Thanks for the tips. I'm looking at those other two bikes as I type this. Although neither of them has really caught my fancy the way Jake has. I really love the price/performance ratio I see with the Jake and I would really rather have a more trail bike than road bike actually, the Jake seems just about perfect in that respect. Maybe my riding habits don't facilitate it, but I'd like to have it, if that make sense.
The LeMond sure is ugly! I also don't think it comes in a size larger than 59cm.
The fit session was informal. I suppose I could ask them to do a more formal one this Saturday. They had me sit on a road bike they were building for someone, and used it as a reference with the Jake measurements. They seemed to think it would be a decent fit with the 60cm Jake. Of course there is the slight possibility they were lying to get me to buy a bike, they were really nice to me, not pushy and encouraged me to come back again with more questions.
I just measured myself, I got 6 feet 5 and 3/8th inches.
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