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Is there a tactful way to tell a fellow rider that they need new nicks? (Riding Shorts)

I was heading to work this morning and came up behind another commuter. I guess he had no way of knowing that when the lycra of his nicks gets stretched across his butt it becomes quite see through.

I really didn't need that. I'd just had breakfast.

lol be honest? I'm sure he'd apreciate it?
I know I would.

Brendon
:beer:

LOL

yeah that stinks doesn't it?

well you know how wearing your underwear underneath your shorts is a no-no? Well my friend was wearing his under his shorts.... and I was grateful that he was cuz he had a little hole in the butt, and it was white underneath the black. i'm glad I didn't have to see skin :)

Originally posted by MediaCreations
Is there a tactful way to tell a fellow rider that they need new nicks? (Riding Shorts)

I was heading to work this morning and came up behind another commuter. I guess he had no way of knowing that when the lycra of his nicks gets stretched across his butt it becomes quite see through.

I really didn't need that. I'd just had breakfast.

Hmm, maybe I better check myself in the mirror!!

Really, how WOULD one know unless someone else told you?

Not something you look at very often.

Besides, it might not show standing by a mirror. Might need to be stretched out on the bike to really notice it.

Go ahead and just tell him. "Hey buddy (or whatever they say in Oz land), you might want to check out the show you are giving others when you ride!!

Originally posted by deliriou5
LOL

yeah that stinks doesn't it?

well you know how wearing your underwear underneath your shorts is a no-no? Well my friend was wearing his under his shorts.... and I was grateful that he was cuz he had a little hole in the butt, and it was white underneath the black. i'm glad I didn't have to see skin :)



Ummm. I just wore riding shorts for the first time today (normally I just wear normal shorts, but I finally got some primal wear stuff and am VERY happy)

Thing is I wore boxer shorts underneath. Supposed to wear nothing underneath ;??? isn't that kinda gross?


Someone want to clue me in???

CK

Originally posted by chad
Supposed to wear nothing underneath ;??? isn't that kinda gross?


Someone want to clue me in???

CK

Underwear has seams which chafe and rub against your skin. As Trollie says, "Ride nekkid." Or at least feel free to go without undies.

Yeah Chad, you're not sharing your cycling shorts. :p

Originally posted by DnvrFox
Hmm, maybe I better check myself in the mirror!!

Really, how WOULD one know unless someone else told you?

Not something you look at very often.

Surely they'd see it when they went to wash them. Assuming they actually do, of course! :eek:

I do tandem rides with the blind (or used to) with the AYH in West Hartford, CT. At one of the rides a rider showed up in a pair of shorts that had worn out years ago. Good thing the stoker was blind, as it was not a pretty sight.

We did not say anything to him, we did not want to embearass him... It can be very hard to find captins for all the bikes. Turns out we did not have to. Every ride has an ice cream stop. And as he was walking into the ice cream shop a child yelled out "Look Mommy I can see that mans butt!" and pointed right at him. He finished the ride, but he never showed up for another ride.

Originally posted by bentbaggerlen
.... a child yelled out "Look Mommy I can see that mans butt!" and pointed right at him. He finished the ride, but he never showed up for another ride. Maybe I should take my kids with me on my commute so that they can say the things that need to be said.:D

Hmmmm....

When I first rode, I would wear underwear. Then I went without for a while, but it just seemed so unsanitary. Now, I ride with underwear, but my biggest concern is that the top of my underwear will peek through the top of my shorts, so everyone will see what color underwear I have on. I just don't think it's cool. I wish sometimes if my underwear was hanging out, that someone would discretely come up and tell me I'm in a compromising position and caution me so I can make some discrete adjustments.

Having said that, I will be getting online tomorrow and ordering several more pairs of cycling tights and shorts. I think I will start going without to see if it really does make a difference, since I'm starting to build on doing long hauls now.

Koffee

Now for girls I suppose no underwear would be considerably worse then guys. Me, being a guy and only wearing boxer shorts anyway, just never though about it guess I will try next time as my boxers were kinda bunching. ;-)

Now a funny story:

My girlfriend wears proper cycling attire and sometimes covers it with other clothes depending on weather/where we are.


That said, the other day I was heading down the parkway and this guy and his gf were coming up on some low end bike store bikes (just a shot above dept. store bikes) and as she is coming up she tries to pull up her ultra low rise jeans, im like hmm and as she goes past my friend notices her pink thong is still sticking way out. How ditzy can you be to ride in ultra-low jeans with a thong on. Do some people have no common sense.

I've noticed some nasty chicks on the bike path doing that same thing- can't they feel the breeze hitting their cracks when their low ride jeans are slipping that low? I really think they think it's sexy or something.

Just nasty.

Koffee

Originally posted by MediaCreations
Is there a tactful way to tell a fellow rider that they need new nicks?

People I ride with usually start singing "Moon River."

Originally posted by Koffee Brown
I've noticed some nasty chicks on the bike path doing that same thing- can't they feel the breeze hitting their cracks when their low ride jeans are slipping that low?

[personal opinion/rant]
Man I can't stand those pants! My little sister wears them exclusively - she has never worn anything but those tight, low rider jeans - she's never owned a normal pair of pants. And then those capri's!?

What ever happened to simple beauty?? :cry:
[/personal opinion/rant]

I don't know. It went out the door when the Brittney Spears of this world came out with their artificially enhanced, emaciated bodies. That's the ideal now, and for me, it looks gross.

I look at those Marilyn Monroe movies and wonder what happened to women's body images. She'd be considered fat in these days. And I don't think she'd be caught wearing low riders either.

Too bad about your sister. Maybe you can sneak into her room, steal her jeans and replace them with some good old 501s.

KB

Originally posted by Koffee Brown
I wish sometimes if my underwear was hanging out, that someone would discretely come up and tell me I'm in a compromising position and caution me so I can make some discrete adjustments.

I see England, I see France...

Being a guy those those low rider jeans look hot, and I dont mind seeing some thong ;P But honestly. For biking?!!? I thought she was just ********
That would be like wearing a bicycling jersey/shorts to a club :D

I guess guys have a different perspective.... some guys, that is.

I'm not up for seeing anyone's crack or their thong either. Yuck!

Koffee

Wedgie!

Bent- that's a great idea.

The next nasty skank I see wearing thongs that are peeking out from their low riders, I'm going to walk up and give them a wedgie so hard they won't be able to procreate!

Well, guys do 'see' things differently than gals ;)

Can't speak for all red blooded males, but I believe the trend/perspective for straight guys is:
Pretty gal + brief exposure of briefs = enjoy but don't stare. :)
Pretty gal + intentional exposure = distasteful and disappointing. :o
Almost pretty gal + accidental exposure = forgivable. No problem.
Almost pretty gal + intentional exposure = not cool. :eek:
Guy + accidental exposure = forgivable. Stamp out 'crack'. :p
Guy + intention exposure = repulsive. Probably the reaction they want. :rolleyes:

Sexuality is a fact of life, no pun intended.
So when something somewhat uh, sexual, pops up, I believe it's good to enjoy it as an amusing reminder of our humanity.
It's only shameful when a person is shamelessly trolling.

First of all for those that have red hair and it is not a dye job it is very noticable when you have black shorts on. (The shorts are either pulled tight enough against the skin the hair is noticable or the hair simply pokes through the shorts.)

Now being a guy and looking at a good looking red haired woman its not all that bad.

How ever those with red hair, male or female may want to do something about it if you are going to wear black cycling shorts. My advice would be to shave it. I don't think you'd want to dye it, especially in that region of the body.

As far as certain types of clothing that women wear. Well being a red blooded american male the 2 styles of clothing that a woman wears that turn me on the most are the kind of tops that define a womans bust line as well as being snug enough to show the nipples. And the style of bottoms that show off the "camel toe" in the front and defines her back side in a flattering way as well.

I don't care what women say when they wear these styles of clothing. Because you know that when you do men are going to look. And you would not wear it if you didn't want the looks and stares. So ladies if you don't like the looks and stares don't wear such flattering clothing.

Originally posted by N_C
I don't care what women say when they wear these styles of clothing. Because you know that when you do men are going to look. And you would not wear it if you didn't want the looks and stares. So ladies if you don't like the looks and stares don't wear such flattering clothing.

Not entirely true. For example, in the climate around here (hot for nine months, warm for the other three), it's probably a matter of practicality for women to wear what some might describe as "not very much". Not that there's anything wrong with having a glance - I do it myself quite often. However, one should at least try to be subtle about it, and if she doesn't want the attention, go and find something else to look at.

And THAT is why women often don't think that much of men... because it's all about what's on the outside and nothing about what's on the inside (to be cliche).

I was actually about to make a comment that would have taken us totally off the subject, but I'm not even going to go there tonight. I can debate with anyone over PM about the state of a woman's dress (or lack thereof) and the male attitude (and their resulting actions) via PMs.

Anywho, I get frustrated often with men- you wear something nice, and they make inappropriate comments, stare incessently without regards for our feelings, etc. There's absolutely no brain power involved when it comes to men behaving in such a manner. Then they blame their brain-deficient actions on us- "well, they shouldn't have worn it because they know how we'd respond." Why can't men learn how to curb their non-thinking, cro magnum, insulting, horny behavior and get over it!!?? We could be wearing ANYTHING that triggers men- I got more stares, honks, shout outs, etc. today than I could possibly remember, and I was wearing my cycling tights and the bikeforums jersey. WTF!!?? Why am I the guilty culprit if men decide that they're feeling horny when they are watching me instead of doing something productive, like unlearning their rude, despicable habits? I get REALLY tired of hearing that same old excuse- "you know you want it, or else you wouldn't have asked for it". Asked for what? Unwanted advances, aggressive unwanted sexual behavior, etc?

I am sure there are plenty of women who agree with me. I also believe there is a small segment of women who specifically dress to get the attention of men-women (or girls, in most cases) deliberately wearing clothing that they know will catch a man's attention. In this case, they have low self esteem and are only feeling validated when they receive this kind of attention from men. But for the rest of us, this is how magazines, television, etc. tell us to look- they give us the fashions, they dictate to us what looks good on us, and we wear it. We like the fashions, we want to put our best foot forward, and we want to look attractive. But looking attractive does not equal wanting sexual advances from some oversexed, can't-think-above-the-belt guy who categorizes women based on looks.

Ok, the original post was about cracks... so saying that, I refer back to it and ask that if anyone sees my crack or any other part of me peeping out, will you please let me know? I'm the one on the silver bike with the black tights and the bikeforums jersey, just in case. I really don't want to be some perverted guy's personal peep show, ok?

Koffee

I agree with you Koffee, looking presentable and attractive does not equate with the desire for sexual advances.

Also, to turn things around, the plumber that bends over and shows his "crack" would not be accused of intentionally solicitting looks and stares by the women who see him. I don't see alot of women who would insinuate that this guy was subconsciously seeking female attention if we follow N-C's line of thinking.

However, I will say, men are innately "visual" creatures.

If you believe in evolution, when men were the hunters and women the gatherers, men had to hone their visual capabilities to excel at this. That's why medical anthropologists believe men are so "visually" oriented and influenced.

So I don't think it makes them less "superficial" if they are more visually influenced than we are.

However, as beings of higher intelligence, I do resent the supposition that women are always "dressed to kill" and invite unwillling advances. If that was the case, we must revert back to the Victorian age when women covered their ankles so men would not lose control over their senses when they saw bare skin of any type.

Not to sound too cro-magnon, but Koffee,
maybe some guys just appreciate the way you
look in lycra and that outstanding BF jersey!
Finding a woman (or man for that matter) attractive
isn't always an invitation to procreate!

As for the original question,
Suggest Bib shorts.

Marty

If they appreciate it, keep it to themselves. I get tired of the lewd looks and suggestive comments, that's all. I just want to enjoy my ride!

What are bib shorts?

Koffee

Koffee,

Ok, I agree the comments should be kept
to ones' self (or maybe a riding buddy saying
"hey look at that hottie over there. . . is that Koffee
Brown stylin in her Bike Forums jersey?" ).
Don't want to be like some jerk construction worker
wolf whistling or the locals hangin on the stoop
talkin trash to the ladies!

Bib shorts are one piece short and
suspender type top, no elastic waistband.
due to differences in bathroom breaks, bibs
aren't really recommended for women since the
shoulder parts go under the jersey. . . you see the
obvious problem?

Marty

I can see 2 problems with that outfit on a woman. Oh well.

KB

Have you ever posted a picture of yourself on Bikeforums, Koffee? I am interested in seeing this "hottie" that people speak of! ;)

Seriously, I am one of those guys who feels that women should be able to wear what they want without getting leered at and thrown lewd remarks. That is the heighth of rudeness.

Of course, if a cycling buddy needed to think about getting some new cycling shorts (which, I believe, was the original topic of this thread...I think we have gotten off topic a bit), I would feel compelled to tell him so. Even if he was not considered to be a good friend, I would want to save him embarrassment. But that's just me.

Keep those wheels turning!

No picture posted- but I am the plainest Jane you'll ever run across, and part of my curiousity is why I still get the looks and comments. It makes no sense.

Do they have some female modification of the bib?

Glad to see you wouldn't leave the guy hangin' if you saw him in a compromising situation on the bike. We're all in the same boat, dude.

KB

Sheesh, this could almost go into the political discussions forum!!!

There was a dude at the run I did recently running in bike shorts, these bike shorts were worn out, to small, and stretched to a painful degree across this guys ass. The result was obvious..Poor people that were running behind him...

yuck yuck yuck.

Koffee
Two problems?
other than the obvious have to take the jersey off
to go "potty" I can't think of another!

Yeah I do believe that one of the manufactures
did produce a womens bib short.
I believe the one piece suites, etc. really aren't
intended for long rides with potty breaks.

Fubar, shouldn't that be the Politically Incorrect Forum?

Marty

Originally posted by lotek
Koffee
Two problems?
other than the obvious have to take the jersey off
to go "potty" I can't think of another!


I believe it's that suspender-type shoulder straps don't generally integrate well with a female's upper-body anatomical structure.

Wearing underwear underneath your shorts also has the disadvantage of absorbing and trapping the moisture from sweating, especially if it's cotton. In addition to not being very comfortable, perhaps it's even less sanitary? Warmth + moisture = bacterial mecca.

koffee if I insultd you I apoligize. That was not my intent, to be insulting that it. I like it when a woman takes pride in her appearance and likes to show it off a little. But with out being to obvious and obnoxious about it. When a woman wears something that shows off her features I think it can be very flattering for her.

But what I don't like is when a woman wears somehting like that knowing she will get the looks from men and then has a huge problem with it and makes a issue of it. Men end up feeling set up because of this.

And yes men can and do stare way to much and for to long. We are all guilty of it at one time or another. But as most of us have goten older and wiser we have learned the differance between a look and a stare. We have also learned the approriate comment to make. As much as we would love to wolf whistle when we see a great looking woman in a flattering outfit we know better.

So Koffee if I see you wearing a flattering outfit don't worry I won't wolf whistle or make a crude comment. But expect me to look and make a nice and decent comment to you about your appearance though. Hopefully you have the inner beauty to go along with your outer beauty as well. That is important too.

Hmmmmm... I didn't even consider the bathroom thing when I looked at the bib- that makes three problems with it, so it's not even an option anymore. I can't imagine trying to go to the bathroom discretely out in nature if I have to strip down to nothing on the side of the road. Nope, ain't gonna happen.

I'm not offended by very many people on the forum, so don't worry. However, when I hear men talking about women like that, I need to stand up and say something. Added to the fact that I was pretty aggrevated by some of the fools I ran across during my ride yesterday probably made me even more sensitive to that.

I second Marty's suggestion- let's petition Joe to create a Politically Incorrect forum. Then we'll just dump about half the posts in there. ;)

Koffee

Originally posted by Koffee Brown
No picture posted- but I am the plainest Jane you'll ever run across, and part of my curiousity is why I still get the looks and comments. It makes no sense.
KB

Sorry, I don't quite believe the Plain Jane comment, KB. You are one of the most dynamic contributors to this forum, too! I wish I had HALF the energy you do!

:D