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JasonC
12-08-06, 02:07 PM
Does this look like a good base layer for sub 25F weather?

http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/48003923.htm

Right now all I have is a short-sleeved jersey. When it gets down to around 25F I add a zip-up sweatshirt and a windproof shell over that. This long-sleeved jersey seems like a good replacement for the jersey I have in colder weather.

But... I'm looking for a second opinion because that looks like more of a jacket than a "jersey".

geraldatwork
12-08-06, 02:15 PM
I think a thinner wicking type fabric directly against your skin would work better. Then put this jersey over that. Then the windproof shell over that should be warm enough once you get going. In effect you would be eliminating the sweatshirt.

caloso
12-08-06, 02:24 PM
I think a thinner wicking type fabric directly against your skin would work better. Then put this jersey over that. Then the windproof shell over that should be warm enough once you get going. In effect you would be eliminating the sweatshirt.

I like Patagonia's Capilene lightweight longsleeve baselayers. Very thin and warm.

JasonC
12-08-06, 02:26 PM
I think a thinner wicking type fabric directly against your skin would work better. Then put this jersey over that. Then the windproof shell over that should be warm enough once you get going. In effect you would be eliminating the sweatshirt.

Why not just keep the sweatshirt then? :)

AllenG
12-08-06, 02:29 PM
Best combo I've found is a silk long underwear (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=39157719&memberId=12500226) base, and then a polartec layer (http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/kenyon-polartec-heavyweight-underwear.html), and whatever you want on top of that.

JasonC
12-08-06, 02:33 PM
I need to stop shopping at REI

Machka
12-08-06, 03:42 PM
I'd use that as my third layer over my two base layers. In fact, I've got a top something like that, and I do exactly that.

For base layers I use polypro and merino wool, one of each ... and then I put my fleece on over top. The polypro and merino wick the moisture away and the fleece adds additional warmth.

buzzman
12-09-06, 09:09 AM
Best combo I've found is a silk long underwear (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=39157719&memberId=12500226) base, and then a polartec layer (http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/kenyon-polartec-heavyweight-underwear.html), and whatever you want on top of that.


I've been an REI member since 1972 but as loyal as I am it's worth it to make on-line comparisons for pricing.

REI Silk long sleeved under shirt (http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=48030888&parent_category_rn=4501409&vcat=REI_SEARCH)

versus

Campmor silk long underwear (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=39157719&memberId=12500226)

and I agree with Allen G the silk undershirt is a great (and much more comfortable for me) base layer.

over that I use a combination of thin polypro base layers (at least one is a turtleneck) that I remove or add as needed and thicken it with a Mountain Hardwear or a polar tec vest. and to further wind/waterproof it a waterproof polypro/nylon jacket. My final layer is always my XXL construction/road crew bright orange t-shirt with reflective striping.

I find this to be more than sufficient down to 10F , though a little chilly as I set out at extreme temps but I warm up pretty fast.

CrosseyedCrickt
12-09-06, 12:55 PM
in my experience, if the windproof shell does not breath very very well, which hardly any I have tried do, then 2 shirts plus the wind shell is a must in 20F or below.
With just one layer beow the wind shell, your sweat tends to get pushed back towards your body and the cold air hitting the shell radiates thru the sweat making the wearer cold again. With a second shirt, the outer shirt holds the moisture and keeps it from going back into the base layer.
Before I got my Evap jacket I wore a really really thin base layer shirt I got from Wal-Mart, plus a microfiber fleece I got from K-Mart, both were around the $10.00 mark, and wore my rain shell over that. that combination kept me warm, but not comfortable.
Now all I wear on my torso is the same base layer with the same microfleece shirt and my Evap jacket and when I arrive at my destination an hour later (1 hour commute) both of my shirts are almost bone dry and the jacket has allowed about 80% of the moisture to evaporate so I am quite comfortable.

geraldatwork
12-09-06, 02:37 PM
Why not just keep the sweatshirt then? :)
Because it seems you want the jersey and it would replace the sweatshirt. The thin base layer would replace the jersey you are currently wearing. I recommended a thin base layer because it will wick the perspiration away from your body, where the jersey you are currently wearing probably doesn't. The jersey you want to buy not only will wick moisture better than the sweatshirt but probably be more thermal.