Mountain Biking - Downhiller interupts a peleton

Great video (http://www.break.com/index/jumping_the_peloton.html) of a guy jumping over a peleton. I'm not sure what race it is, but it sure is great footage.

That's funny.

that's great

That was on a NWD film, IIRC he broke his neck or back.

That was on a NWD film, IIRC he broke his neck or back.
Why don't you just say he died.....

That's great footage. I've actually seen the still shot on a big poster of him jumping over the cyclists.

Great shot.

That was Dave Watson circa 2004. He suffered a bruised groin and a severely swollen ego, otherwise he was fine. Good stuff.

Check out the cop at 40 seconds, the slow motion run.


NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Everybody......... stand.......... back...........

That was Dave Watson circa 2004. He suffered a bruised groin and a severely swollen ego, otherwise he was fine. Good stuff.

Really, I was sure he broke something major?

Really, I was sure he broke something major?

I said groin didn't I? What's dangling between your legs?

Actually, nevermind your right.

Also, my balls have a feature I call auto retract, they hide when i'm in the air.

that was the tour de france. Its pretty stupid, if he had screwed up and ended up landing on one of the tour riders or spectators, someone could have seriously hurt or killed. Its pretty clear he didnt think that one through before he did it.

I'm pretty sure that was from the 2004 Tour de France. It was pretty cool but not very smart. The risk involved is definitely what makes downhill and freeride so cool. However the risk should only be for the rider doing the stunt. It shouldn't jeapordise other riders, spectators, or the largest, most important race of the year.

Personally, I have no respect for someone that seeks attention from what could very possibly be other's expense.

funny vid, but I dont like that kind of rider, like what LowCel said, dangerous to other rider. But that guy did a smart thing for himself, at least the medic is near :D

that was the tour de france. Its pretty stupid, if he had screwed up and ended up landing on one of the tour riders or spectators, someone could have seriously hurt or killed. Its pretty clear he didnt think that one through before he did it.

Those guys wouldnt last very long if all the big hucks you see in the videos were not well thought out.
I'm sure a lot of planning went into it. He didnt get a chance to pre run it before he hit it in the clip.I think it's a great stunt.

Yup, that was the Ride the Lightning video.

They actually showed all the planning and preparation in the out takes section of the DVD. There wasn't much risk to the precious peleton. I just wish he wouldn't have cracked under the pressure and doinked the landing.

He would have had to "screw up" majorly to come up so short that he'd hit a Tour rider. I just wish someone would do it again and land it instead of wiping out and looking like an idiot.

The contrast is kinda funny really. Two extremes in cycling cross paths for only a moment.

It shouldn't jeapordise other riders, spectators, or the largest, most important race of the year.


It didn't do any of those, really.

The still is one of my favorite photos all time.

dave watson. there was NO risk to the peloton or spectators, they made sure of it, arrived before the tour de france did to prepare the site. he didn't jump the main peloton for this reason; he didn't want to risk ruining the race completely. so, he jumped the group of backmarkers, which is why the "peloton" looked so small in the video. That exact kona frame was part of the carey bokser auction.

http://nsmb.com/images/shore_news/auction/watson.jpg

http://www.mbuk.com/images/Tour_De_Gap400.jpg

if you watch the video again, and look at the still i posted above, you clearly see WATSON painted on the road.

dave watson. there was NO risk to the peloton or spectators, they made sure of it, arrived before the tour de france did to prepare the site. he didn't jump the main peloton for this reason; he didn't want to risk ruining the race completely. so, he jumped the group of backmarkers, which is why the "peloton" looked so small in the video. That exact kona frame was part of the carey bokser auction.

I love the picture but I have to disagree with the risk comment. If there was no risk then why did he jump the backmarkers? If there was no risk then he should have just jumped the main peleton. Anytime there is a stunt like this there is a risk. If there wasn't then what makes it so great? What did the people that he put at risk get out of this?


if you watch the video again, and look at the still i posted above, you clearly see WATSON painted on the road.


So just because his name was there the riders should have figured that someone was going to be jumping over them on a bike just out of the blue? Personally, that would have been the last thing I would have thought when I saw the name Watson on the road.

Anyway, I have no problem with people doing stunts, I think they are awesome. I just think that all parties that are involved and at risk (no matter how little) should be aware of what is going on.

Thank God nothing happened to the riders

I love the picture but I have to disagree with the risk comment. If there was no risk then why did he jump the backmarkers? If there was no risk then he should have just jumped the main peleton. Anytime there is a stunt like this there is a risk. If there wasn't then what makes it so great? What did the people that he put at risk get out of this?

it was more of a statement than a risk taking josh bender huck.

he didn't jump the main peloton because IF he DID screw up, he would get in major **** for it. so he jumped the backmarkers.




So just because his name was there the riders should have figured that someone was going to be jumping over them on a bike just out of the blue? Personally, that would have been the last thing I would have thought when I saw the name Watson on the road.

Anyway, I have no problem with people doing stunts, I think they are awesome. I just think that all parties that are involved and at risk (no matter how little) should be aware of what is going on.
i never said it meant anything. i was just trying to draw the reader/viewer's attention to the road. just a fun fact.

Thats the coolest **** since sliced bread!

It certainly seems like he must have had somebody's permission if they were allowed to paint his name in the middle of the tour route. Now, I know that does not establish whether or not the riders were warned, and thats not very fair-to endanger them without their consent-but the vid is still cool, you gotta admit.

It certainly seems like he must have had somebody's permission if they were allowed to paint his name in the middle of the tour route. Now, I know that does not establish whether or not the riders were warned, and thats not very fair-to endanger them without their consent-but the vid is still cool, you gotta admit.

During the tour it is not the least bit uncommon to paint on the roads. Anyone can paint anything on the roads. I can assure you that no one involved in the tour de france would have given someone permission to do a stunt like this and jeapordize the biggest bike race in france (the world for that matter).

Oh, I admit the video is cool and the picture is awesome. I just don't think it's right.

If there was no risk then why did he jump the backmarkers?
it probably had to do with minimizing the stink the stunt would cause with the tour de france organizers more than anything else.

if you watch the clip again, you'll see that the NWD guys took certain precautions to minimize whatever risks they thought there were for spectators or tour riders getting injured had a mishap occured; the edge of the road at the top of the transition was cleared of spectators prior to the stunt taking place; landing transition wasn't really close to any of the trailors that are shown earlier in the clip; no cars parked anywhere close to the landing zone; and of course, they planned the jump over the backmarkers rather than the main peleton.


If there was no risk then he should have just jumped the main peleton. Anytime there is a stunt like this there is a risk. If there wasn't then what makes it so great? What did the people that he put at risk get out of this?
there are always risks when performing any type of stunt. however, the only way i think any tour riders could have gotten injured during watson's attempt would be if either watson completely botched up the run in before taking off the lip of the jump, or if one or more of the tour riders were so distracted by watson flying over that they lost control of their bikes and crashed as a result.

I agree with LowCel

Regardles off how minimal the risk was there was risk. The tour riders in no way benefitted from this risk. Therefore I just don't see how it could be justified to anyone that looks at the "whole picture". Everyone is entitled to their opinions, this is just mine. We all know what they say about opinions now don't we. :D

That was on a NWD film, IIRC he broke his neck or back.

No he didn't. His groin. He was more upset he didn't land it than anything.

3 years ago now. Do a search on here and a ridemonkey. Lots of discussion. I remember when they announced it in whistler and when he arrived at crankworx shortly after this (month or something) he got a standing ovation. Definately a local hero here.

I love the picture but I have to disagree with the risk comment. What did the people that he put at risk get out of this?

They got they're dragging slow arses in a cool freeride film. :D

rasheed got what i was trying to say.

They got they're dragging slow arses in a cool freeride film. :D

Cool freeride film.........is there such a thing??? ;) Only mountain bike videos I enjoy are the Drop In episodes.

Regardles off how minimal the risk was there was risk. The tour riders in no way benefitted from this risk. Therefore I just don't see how it could be justified to anyone that looks at the "whole picture". Everyone is entitled to their opinions, this is just mine. We all know what they say about opinions now don't we. :D


It's a given that everyone has their own comfort level and definition of "acceptable risk."

Part of the appeal of this stunt I think lies within the fact that it was totally unsanctioned. It's the old forgiveness / permission thing.

if you are, or you do, something totally completly awsome, you will always have some detractors. such is the case in this thread.

Shoudl have seen it when there was discussion on boards if he should, and then when he did how many people were against it so violently. In the end it was a very small move and didn't even cause a blip in the race or in the scene (in the us)

Now in europe, I don't think there is any doubt as the correlation between the rise of fr there and this move almost line up perfectly. Heck the tour rag there interview Dave Watson shortly after. It got a lot of coverage, created a stir, and helped to bring fr a little closer to the front of the pack in europe.

Now in europe, I don't think there is any doubt as the correlation between the rise of fr there and this move almost line up perfectly. Heck the tour rag there interview Dave Watson shortly after. It got a lot of coverage, created a stir, and helped to bring fr a little closer to the front of the pack in europe.

If he'd pulled it in the liability happy US, he'd have been classified as an enemy combatant and thrown in Guantanamo.

haha!

it really is to bad he didn't land it.

Cool freeride film.........is there such a thing??? ;) Only mountain bike videos I enjoy are the Drop In episodes.

Because LowCel doesn't like Kranked or NWD, that makes them uncool.:eek:

Oh, I admit the video is cool and the picture is awesome.

But he thought this one was cool...why? Because there were roadies in it!!!:D

If there was no risk then he should have just jumped the main peleton.


Have any of you actually seed the NWD video that this was in?

It said in the special features section that the reason he didn't jump the main peleton was because they came up on that section so quickly and unexpectedly. As soon as he saw them, he put his helmet on and waited for the second group.

Great stunt, and very minimal risk to anyone but himself.

Someone good enough to attempt that isn't going to stack on the run in, slide of the edge and wreck into the pack of riders. The risk is in the landing....as we saw, and that hurts noone but himself.

It's funny to see two pages of discussion on this long-over (yet very cool) stunt. It has been hashed to death already (well . . . or so I thought :rolleyes: ). Revmonkey's details on the whole stunt are dead-on. Watson pulled it off as responsibly as one could and still get the shot they were going for. Mind you, he did this without getting to do a practice jump; he barely got to check out the run-in. The full official account is still on Kona's web site if anyone cares to check it out:

http://www.konaworld.com/66.cfm

Because LowCel doesn't like Kranked or NWD, that makes them uncool.:eek:

In my opinion...yes. I form my own opinions on what video's I believe are "cool" and to be honest I have never seen a mountain bike video (except the Drop In series) that was worth my hard earned money. If you enjoy them then more power to you.

As for this one being cool, yes it is cool to watch and take a quick look at. It's not cool enough for me to pay to see it though.

For what it's worth there are probably a lot of things that I think are cool that you would disagree with as well. That's what makes the world go around.

I for one think that’s awesome. It's cool to see the huge contrast between the two different types of riding.

yeah, enough with the risk talk - what's the music in the video?

its dangerous by (hed)pe

GOOOOOOOOD SONNGGGGG

it probably had to do with minimizing the stink the stunt would cause with the tour de france organizers more than anything else.

if you watch the clip again, you'll see that the NWD guys took certain precautions to minimize whatever risks they thought there were for spectators or tour riders getting injured had a mishap occured; the edge of the road at the top of the transition was cleared of spectators prior to the stunt taking place; landing transition wasn't really close to any of the trailors that are shown earlier in the clip; no cars parked anywhere close to the landing zone; and of course, they planned the jump over the backmarkers rather than the main peleton.


there are always risks when performing any type of stunt. however, the only way i think any tour riders could have gotten injured during watson's attempt would be if either watson completely botched up the run in before taking off the lip of the jump, or if one or more of the tour riders were so distracted by watson flying over that they lost control of their bikes and crashed as a result.




I would've.... :eek:

Well, I cant imagine what roadies will call us if he failed in passing the tour riders

In my opinion...yes. I form my own opinions on what video's I believe are "cool" and to be honest I have never seen a mountain bike video (except the Drop In series) that was worth my hard earned money. If you enjoy them then more power to you.

As for this one being cool, yes it is cool to watch and take a quick look at. It's not cool enough for me to pay to see it though.

For what it's worth there are probably a lot of things that I think are cool that you would disagree with as well. That's what makes the world go around.

Just givin' ya crap, dude:D besides, it's love that makes the world go 'round.

Okay on three....1...2....3....tis love, tis love, tis love that makes the world go round, go round....:p

It's funny to see two pages of discussion on this long-over (yet very cool) stunt. It has been hashed to death already (well . . . or so I thought :rolleyes: ). Revmonkey's details on the whole stunt are dead-on. Watson pulled it off as responsibly as one could and still get the shot they were going for. Mind you, he did this without getting to do a practice jump; he barely got to check out the run-in. The full official account is still on Kona's web site if anyone cares to check it out:

http://www.konaworld.com/66.cfm

thanks for the backup :)

That's a great pic, I had that on my desktop for awhile b4 the wife reminded me this machine = mostly hers while the other machine = mostly mine.



here are always risks when performing any type of stunt. however, the only way i think any tour riders could have gotten injured during watson's attempt would be if either watson completely botched up the run in before taking off the lip of the jump, or if one or more of the tour riders were so distracted by watson flying over that they lost control of their bikes and crashed as a result.

Totally would have had to botch the run up, & wouldv'e known he'd botched it & broken off the run out of concern for his own neck not tour riders, that would suck to come up so short as to risk coming down on the road...ouch

As for tour riders getting so distracted that they lose control, while everyone would say "sure yeah, shouldna wouldna that Dave bastard grr" any tour rider wrecking from distraction...maybe wasn't tour caliber & wouldn't get terrible much sympathy unless crippled or dead. There are tons of wrecks, but that's a calm bit of road they chose for the stunt & considering that I think any rider looking up, saying "Damn!" & whipping his stick into a neighbouring rider would get more hell from the pack than the guy jumping over them. "I was distracted" is among cyclists no excuse at all for a car driver & thereby a very embarrassing excuse a cyclist.