Mountain Biking - The road guys are just brutal!!!!

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Little Leo
12-11-06, 04:29 PM
I popped into the Road forum just to look around and read some stuff. I was looking thru some of the replys people have posted and they are just mean! They trashed this poor guy for posting somthing discussed a week ago! They are all stuck up and dont like the simple questions. There like that on the road and in the shops. If they think they are better they ignor you. And they like to brag about ther 15 lbs bikes and Dura Ace parts.
:mad:
Has anyone else noitced this?
God do I love you Mountain people! :D
Do a search, this has been discussed as many times as campy vs shimano, sram vs shimano. Surely it doesn't need to be done again.
*edit - BTW keep in mind that a good percentage of mountain bikers are also roadies. ;)
Little Leo
12-11-06, 04:41 PM
yes, but a true roadie's can be a little self-conscious.
and I have some true roadie friends that are the coolest people in the world.
I also ride a road bike, but I have to say, I almost never visit the road forum. I can't remember the last time I did. I think the reason is that so many of them are seriously annoying, uptight people. I don't encounter that as much out on the road or in the shop though.
I see the same in this subforum, too. There are jerks everywhere. The road section just has more because, well, there are more of them.
Sometimes I feel like a roadie with some of the crap I post when it's that time of the month.
santiago
12-11-06, 05:16 PM
Paella valenciana.
I'm not too good at my espaniol, but did you say:
http://centros2.pntic.mec.es/cp.vicalvaro/comenius/comidas/paella/paella.gif?
I think the reason is that so many of them are seriously annoying, uptight people.
We're by far having more fun - - puts us in a better frame of mind, eh? :D
santiago
12-11-06, 06:21 PM
I'm not too good at my espaniol, but did you say:
http://centros2.pntic.mec.es/cp.vicalvaro/comenius/comidas/paella/paella.gif?
Yes, although in my recipe I use shrimp, mussels and clams. The secret is to avoid taking any shortcuts. Avoid the temptation to cook the shellfish on the rice. Take the time to steam the mussels and the clams in a nice dry white wine separately. Reserve the liquid.
The second tip I can offer you is to buy whole, fresh shrimp. If you can score the heads even better. Peel the shrimps rip off the heads. Boil the shells and the heads to make a simple shrimp stock. Use this along with the reserved clam and mussel juice as the base to cook your rice.
Tomorrow I may share some tips for making pork/shrimp wontons and cooking them in a spicy thai-style broth.
ranger5oh
12-11-06, 06:27 PM
Im both a roadie and a MTB'er. I dont think there is a big difference... however, there are a lot more fat people in spandex on the road forum :) In this forum, people can be fat, but they wont be in spandex.
Thats my generalization, and Im sticking to it :D
Anyway, there are always a handful of people that somehow forget that they were new once and posted thread when they could have searched and blah blah.
Anyway, what I am curious most about is what frame material is best.... hrrmmmmm?????
wheelhot
12-11-06, 07:00 PM
frame material, for me its Titanium :D
garysol1
12-11-06, 07:33 PM
Anyway, what I am curious most about is what frame material is best.... hrrmmmmm?????
Anything but Carbon....That stuff will desentigrate if you hit a pebble wrong ..... :rolleyes:
Little Leo
12-11-06, 07:41 PM
All I know is dont mess with one of them on the road! If you dont give them enough space to pass they will flip out! Or if you pass them, they are so offended its like you just bashed thier mama :eek:
Not all though.
Roadies around here are pretty nice and same with mountain bikers when I go to the trails. I wonder if I should pop into the roadie forums and see what's going on.
FreeRidin'
12-11-06, 08:18 PM
Go drop in on the BMX forum.
Those guys are just out to get you.
DirtPedalerB
12-11-06, 08:59 PM
All I know is dont mess with one of them on the road! If you dont give them enough space to pass they will flip out! Or if you pass them, they are so offended its like you just bashed thier mama :eek:
Not all though.
that's recumberant riders they think they own the place because everyone is staring at their weird rig.
koine2002
12-11-06, 09:13 PM
I'm both MTB and roadie, but I tend to stay out of that forum--a bunch of guys past their prime who think they'll be the next Lance (I'm stereotyping by the way). I did see a presta vs. schrader thread that got way out of hand to a point where a guy pointed out that real bikes have prestas, schrader's are for cars and kids bikes and MTB's aren't real bikes but a marketing phenomenon (like SUV's). I usually go to foo when I need road bike help.
koine2002
12-11-06, 09:18 PM
Anyway, what I am curious most about is what frame material is best.... hrrmmmmm?????
I'd have to say that for most riders, whatever you like is the best frame material. Unless you're a pro, it really doesn't matter. I myself prefer steel, because I abuse my MTB's, am a clyde, and like the tensile strength, but I wouldn't mind aluminum or titanium either. I kind of shy from carbon on the MTB, but that's due to me being a clydesdale. I'm pretty low maintenance on that kind of stuff. My current rig is out of a $45 steel nashbar frame made with spare parts. She runs beautifully.
in my experience road riders in real life are *******s, arrogant bastards. we are each riding bikes a nod or a wave ain't gonna kill you, as well as me talking to you as i pass you on my singlespeed mountain bike you *******s
Wheelchairman
12-11-06, 09:59 PM
that's recumberant riders they think they own the place because everyone is staring at their weird rig.
Don't be a fool! Im a 'bent rider myself and I ain't offended when someone passes me. TBH its more of a shock to look up and just see a rider's legs spinning above your shoulders. Many riders in the bent forum split their time equally among 'bents and diamond frames so I dont see how there could be anything different.
As for the original argument. I tend to agree with the original poster. The LBS I get my servicing done at is full of roadies. They're a real bunch of pricks. You ask a simple question and you never get a straight answer and are always displayed the type of body language from them that's just saying you're a loser. Its even worse when you approach a real slow peleton down the road on your MTB. They look at you after you've said "hi", quickly turn to the front then scream out,
"C'mon boys, there's a MTB keeping up!". After that they up the pace..... usually not quick enough to shake me though :D
On the other hand, I also own a road bike. TBH when I do ride it, draped in my lycra and visorless helmet, my state of mind does kind of change. I concerntrate more on my cadence, my face is just saying "don't **** with me" and I think I own the road. There's no way I'd act like that on a MTB- the machinery just doesn't give off that "Im better you" aura.
I think if you come across a true roadie, that is, a real arsehole, then more then likely he hasn't ridden anything else during his life. I think Im a better, more relaxed rider for riding an MTB and not a road bike exclusively. Thankfully, most roadies I ride with have been BMX'ers and MTBers in the past/present :D
wethepeople
12-11-06, 10:12 PM
Go drop in on the BMX forum.
Those guys are just out to get you.
I'll kill you!!!!!!
Actually if your not dumb as a cup of dirt, we're usually nice. I also got out of freerideing because of the attitudes that were developing in this town/area with the other freeriders, so I got into BMX. The BMX riders in this town are alot nicer then the mountianbikers.
For the Mountian guys it was all about the gear, BMX guys are about having a good time as long as your riding.
FreeRidin'
12-11-06, 10:30 PM
For the Mountian guys it was all about the gear, BMX guys are about having a good time as long as your riding.
I've noticed that around here too, but it was soo mch fun rolling in on my noisy broken-down stock hardrock and showing up the kids with the $3000+ bikes.
wethepeople
12-11-06, 10:44 PM
Best was still at the local skatepark there were a few guys on fullies, one with a p2 and one with a morphine.
Some of the guys were hitting a ten stair gap, but the were only gapping the first five and the middle level out, then landing on the downhill of the stairs. I showed up on my BMX and sent it to flat, then tailwhipped to flat, then did a sketchy ninja kick to flat, then started trying 360's.
I'll never forget the looks on their faces.
Siu Blue Wind
12-11-06, 11:56 PM
I'm going to the OTHER other side. Will you guys still like me?:o
Okay okay. Some of you don't. :rolleyes:
wheelhot
12-11-06, 11:58 PM
WHY!!!!!!!!!, dun become a roadie, be a part time roadie enough :D
Here's an excerpt from this weekends road ride when we came across some other riders at a crossroads.
Me: Man I love that Bob Jackson frame.
Rider 1: Well you should, better than one of those POS IF's.
Me: Well, at least my IF is better than one of those Trek's.
Rider 2 (on a trek): That may be true but it doesn't matter anyway. All the frame is for is to hold over priced components.
Me: Very true, then again I don't think there are really any bad frames made these days.
Next a carbon discussion persued, then a talk about the ride routes we were taking, followed by how great the weather was, then how nice it was to see other riders out there. To me it seemed like we all had a little fun pretending our bikes were the best then we had a nice conversation. Damn us roadies, what jerks!
As for the passing thing, I'm in base training phase right now. Everyone is going to pass me. The rest of the time I am either in the middle of some particular training or I am recovering. If you pass me I couldn't care less. I am out there focussing on my goals not anyone elses. As for the waving thing a lot of times I am focussed and feel like I am going to drop over dead. Most of the times I will flick out a few fingers on nod my head. I can't help it if the other rider doesn't see it. If he is so judgemental that he is going to judge me as a person based on this then it is his loss. People that know me (or of me) know what kind of person I am.
junkyard
12-12-06, 05:23 AM
I have not found the roadies to be jerks or difficult to deal with. Having just picked up a road bike this season, I have found many to be very helpful and willing to answer questions. As far as the attitudes, consider this, on the trail there are no cars pushing you out of the way, swerving at you or just acting as though you are not there. On the road, this is the big challenge: getting noticed and staying safe. I think you have to develop a certain attitude out there in order to be noticed. The key is knowing when the attitude is warranted and when you should shut it off.
Additionally, the key in all of these forums to not getting flamed seems to be to show that you have done some research and still have a question. If you exhibit some level of intelligence and knowledge about the topic, you are much more likely to gain some respect and get some useful answers.
I popped into the Road forum just to look around and read some stuff. I was looking thru some of the replys people have posted and they are just mean! They trashed this poor guy for posting somthing discussed a week ago! They are all stuck up and dont like the simple questions. There like that on the road and in the shops. If they think they are better they ignor you. And they like to brag about ther 15 lbs bikes and Dura Ace parts.
:mad:
Has anyone else noitced this?
God do I love you Mountain people! :D
Roadies are brutal. Below you will find your post, with only the spelling errors corrected. I'm not even getting into the grammar.
I popped into the Road forum just to look around and read some stuff. I was looking through (thru is not a word in the English language) some of the replies (general rule: If a word ends in the letter "y", it's plural is spelled by replacing the "y" with "ies".)people have posted and they are just mean! They trashed this poor guy for posting something discussed a week ago! They are all stuck up and don't like the simple questions. They're (contraction: they are) like that on the road and in the shops. If they think they are better they ignore you. And they like to brag about their 15 lbs. bikes and Dura-Ace (Correction made per the Shimano web site. They hold the patents, I guess they can hyphenate or not at their pleasure.) parts.
Has anyone else noticed this?
God do I love you Mountain people!
On a more serious note, when you pop into a forum and take a peek, you don't really understand the dynamics of the forum. Sometimes the same questions are asked week after week, often by the same people. There are some serious snobs, just like everywhere else. If you don't speak the language, it's difficult to be part of a conversation. I don't know what "free ride" means, or what the benefits of having a hardtail in certain situations are. I can't tell you the difference between XTR and Deore. If I asked simple questions without spending a few minutes doing my own research, I'd probably get eaten up in here.
Of course I ride an Allez with Sora triple components, all geeked out with a rack on the back for my *****in' Arkel Tail Rider, a blinkie, and sometimes a headlight. What do I know? :beer:
wheelhot
12-12-06, 05:56 AM
I seriously dont get your point twahl? Are you from the road bike forum? Because I never see you posting here before. And your writing about correcting peoples english makes the post feel boring
euroford
12-12-06, 06:05 AM
As for the passing thing, I'm in base training phase right now. Everyone is going to pass me.
thats awsome, i'm going to remeber that one!
I seriously dont get your point twahl? Are you from the road bike forum? Because I never see you posting here before. And your writing about correcting peoples english makes the post feel boring
I don't normally post here, I'm a geeky roadie. The post was at the top and caught my attention because that placed it on the forum menu. My point was of course to poke fun both at roadies and at people that "pop into" a forum and expect it to be just like whatever they are used to. I used the irony of doing exactly that to help demonstrate my point.
Hell, I get along with just about anybody. My two most frequent road riding partners are mountain bikers. I'd go ride trails with them, but with four riders in the family, living in a condo, I just don't have the room to store more bikes.
born2bahick
12-12-06, 06:28 AM
Yeah, If someone is on a bike their allright with me! Except for those Unicycle freaks of nature! They give me the creeps man!:eek:
Yeah, If someone is on a bike their allright with me! Except for those Unicycle freaks of nature! They give me the creeps man!:eek:
Jealous????? (I am)
Big_knob
12-12-06, 06:59 AM
To me bike riding is bike riding regardless type of terrain,bike or skill level.
name your poison, run over by a bus travelling at a high rate of speed or endoing off a cliff.
born2bahick
12-12-06, 07:09 AM
Jealous????? (I am)
Yeah...... I wish I could do that trials thing too! However my form in crash situations is envied by all!
Dannihilator
12-12-06, 08:13 AM
Me, I just don't post in the road forum, because technically I'm not a road cyclist as per say. Yes I know I own a Bianchi Pista. But Pista in American is Track, so I have a track bike. Only ever caught grief by a roadie once while on the pista, I made that day very painful for him, I just simply upped my cadence and never lifted.
santiago
12-12-06, 08:16 AM
Me, I just don't post in the road forum, because technically I'm not a road cyclist as per se. Yes I know I own a Bianchi Pista. But Pista in American is Track, so I have a track bike. Only ever caught grief by a roadie once while on the pista, I made that day very painful for him, I just simply upped my cadence and never lifted.
"God do I love you Mountain people!" ;)
On a serious note: Unagi Nigiri
Of course I ride an Allez with Sora triple components
jeez, you're not even a real roadie with a pos like that... beat it dude!
God do I love you Mountain people!
:rolleyes:
Unagi Nigiri
Why do you keep talking about food?
http://static.flickr.com/31/91420583_528dd043ce.jpg?v=0
santiago
12-12-06, 08:58 AM
Why do you keep talking about food?
http://static.flickr.com/31/91420583_528dd043ce.jpg?v=0
I love good food and since we're going off on tangents discussing how "Roadies are so mean", why not talk about food?
. . . Except for those Unicycle freaks of nature! They give me the creeps man!:eek:Whoa! Hey, dis them roadies all you want, but leave me out of this! :D
born2bahick
12-12-06, 09:18 AM
Unagi
"Concept" of total awareness,(Ross Geller)
santiago
12-12-06, 09:20 AM
"Concept" of total awareness,(Ross Geller)
You quoting "Friends" stuff?
born2bahick
12-12-06, 09:22 AM
You quoting "Friends" stuff?
You remember that episode?
santiago
12-12-06, 09:30 AM
You remember that episode?
No, which one was it? Was sushi involved?
born2bahick
12-12-06, 09:34 AM
No, which one was it? Was sushi involved?
That's what the girls kept telling him
santiago
12-12-06, 09:37 AM
That's what the girls kept telling him
That's funny. I just found the quotes.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0583570/quotes
FreeRidin'
12-12-06, 03:01 PM
Below you will find your post, with only the spelling errors corrected. I'm not even getting into the grammar.
Wow!!!!!
No wonder this thread was started.
then did a sketchy ninja kick to flat
:eek: !!! You call them ninja kicks too!!!!
You are my new favorite person on the forums.:o
Little Leo
12-12-06, 04:40 PM
Roadies are brutal. Below you will find your post, with only the spelling errors corrected. I'm not even getting into the grammar.
I popped into the Road forum just to look around and read some stuff. I was looking through (thru is not a word in the English language) some of the replies (general rule: If a word ends in the letter "y", it's plural is spelled by replacing the "y" with "ies".)people have posted and they are just mean! They trashed this poor guy for posting something discussed a week ago! They are all stuck up and don't like the simple questions. They're (contraction: they are) like that on the road and in the shops. If they think they are better they ignore you. And they like to brag about their 15 lbs. bikes and Dura-Ace (Correction made per the Shimano web site. They hold the patents, I guess they can hyphenate or not at their pleasure.) parts.
Has anyone else noticed this?
God do I love you Mountain people!
On a more serious note, when you pop into a forum and take a peek, you don't really understand the dynamics of the forum. Sometimes the same questions are asked week after week, often by the same people. There are some serious snobs, just like everywhere else. If you don't speak the language, it's difficult to be part of a conversation. I don't know what "free ride" means, or what the benefits of having a hardtail in certain situations are. I can't tell you the difference between XTR and Deore. If I asked simple questions without spending a few minutes doing my own research, I'd probably get eaten up in here.
Of course I ride an Allez with Sora triple components, all geeked out with a rack on the back for my *****in' Arkel Tail Rider, a blinkie, and sometimes a headlight. What do I know? :beer:
I do not have the best spelling. But I try my best. But when you (not you but others) trash sombody for posting about somthing just tell him to look it up. You dont have to beat him into the ground about it.
And not all roadies are bad, but thats the impression I got when I was reading some posts. But mabe you speak the language that bashes people that ask dumb questions.
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