Southern California - Who Was THAT Girl Riding ?

So for the past 2-3 weeks I have gone surfing on my lunchbreak. I get out of the water at the same time and I have seen this girl riding her mountain bike, taking a brief rest where I park, and then continuing on. She is beautiful !!! I NEED to talk to this girl for two reason.....# 1 she is hot, # 2 i need a riding partner and who better than a hot girl. I was just wondering though if there is some specific way to talk to bike girls ? Is there a safe intro question I could ask, like ....." say, is that a shimano 2000 blah blah blah?" Help me out guys, I am a dork and I need a girlfriend.

Um, you can go up to her and pass her my number. :)

Tackle her and "accidently" start making out with a random part of her body. Make sure to make her bike unridable, so she would need a ride. The ram your car into the nearest telephone pole and say "CARP I CANT READ". She will feel sorry for you and you will eventually get married. To someone else.
:D Just my 2 cents lol

Seriously, I don't know anything about getting hot chicks on bikes. I just "naturally" charm them :D
I've had 5 GFs over the last 13 years.

So for the past 2-3 weeks I have gone surfing on my lunchbreak. I get out of the water at the same time and I have seen this girl riding her mountain bike, taking a brief rest where I park, and then continuing on. She is beautiful !!! I NEED to talk to this girl for two reason.....# 1 she is hot, # 2 i need a riding partner and who better than a hot girl. I was just wondering though if there is some specific way to talk to bike girls ? Is there a safe intro question I could ask, like ....." say, is that a shimano 2000 blah blah blah?" Help me out guys, I am a dork and I need a girlfriend.


Is this for real?
Try talking to her, and if she doesn't think your a serial killer ( a distinct possibility ) you may stand a chance.

"CARP I CANT READ". :D Just my 2 cents lol


Can't spell either!:D

Is this for real?
Try talking to her, and if she doesn't think your a serial killer ( a distinct possibility ) you may stand a chance.
You mean cereal killer:
http://ewancient.lysator.liu.se/pic/art/d/r/dragonmajik831/04_muse_killer.jpg

Can't spell either!:D
I did that on purpose. Look I even do tutoring:
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I did that on purpose. Look I even do tutoring:
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eye lfet a mesach on da mashine. pleze ged bakc to me, me nead all hepl i can gett.

Lol

Here's where you go for a bike ride one day instead of surfing. Whenever you drop, er, i mean pass her give a friendly "Hey, what's up..." or even a "Nice bike!" :)

So for the past 2-3 weeks I have gone surfing on my lunchbreak. I get out of the water at the same time and I have seen this girl riding her mountain bike, taking a brief rest where I park, and then continuing on. She is beautiful !!! I NEED to talk to this girl for two reason.....# 1 she is hot, # 2 i need a riding partner and who better than a hot girl. I was just wondering though if there is some specific way to talk to bike girls ? Is there a safe intro question I could ask, like ....." say, is that a shimano 2000 blah blah blah?" Help me out guys, I am a dork and I need a girlfriend.

dont talk components to a chick - thats silly. i mean you can do it but its not what i would do. If she stops near you and looks like she is taking a breather and might be available to chat then just ask her if she rides this area much as you have seen her a couple of times. If she says yes then just be honest and say he im into mountain biking too and have been hoping to find someone to do a few rides with once in a while. She will probably say no to this idea at first. It may take a few goes of asking to get her interested if you see her regularly. I mean if you are hot she might say yes straight up but most of us mere morals have to work harder than that lol. but then again i hate the idea of my sister riding her bike on her own and having some stranger guy hitting her up when she is on her own so i say leave the hot chick to her riding. if you are lucky and its meant to be you will bump into her at a more appropriate time like at a party where you can run over and say hey ive seen you before on your mountain bike over at such and such beach....and away you go. but not when she is riding. IMHO.

just come up to her and ask for her number, if she makes excuses just give up.

There is no"what do I say, what do I do?". Either you got it or you don't!:D

dont talk components to a chick - thats silly. i mean you can do it but its not what i would do. If she stops near you and looks like she is taking a breather and might be available to chat then just ask her if she rides this area much as you have seen her a couple of times. If she says yes then just be honest and say he im into mountain biking too and have been hoping to find someone to do a few rides with once in a while. She will probably say no to this idea at first. It may take a few goes of asking to get her interested if you see her regularly. I mean if you are hot she might say yes straight up but most of us mere morals have to work harder than that lol. but then again i hate the idea of my sister riding her bike on her own and having some stranger guy hitting her up when she is on her own so i say leave the hot chick to her riding. if you are lucky and its meant to be you will bump into her at a more appropriate time like at a party where you can run over and say hey ive seen you before on your mountain bike over at such and such beach....and away you go. but not when she is riding. IMHO.

+1 dude.

Who Was THAT Girl Riding ?

I don't know...who was that girl riding?

Honestly just be straight up with here, its the most effective way of making a move on a complete stranger. Hey I see you like to ride, wanna ride me? err, i mean with me... She'll get the point... Like others said, if she gives u her number its a go, if not give up...

You're a lucky bastard. When I go out riding on my own, I see absolutely zero females on their bikes. Maybe it's cuz I ride after work when it's starting to get dark out.

try these lines:
'Hey, can I check out yer saddle?'
'Like My saddlebag?'
'How long do like yer stem?' or my favorite,
'I think your bottom bracket needs some lubing.'
What's the worst that can happen? You get a slap in the face?

Honestly just be straight up with here, its the most effective way of making a move on a complete stranger.


"F me if I'm wrong, but I think you want me!!" :p

that one works about as well as...

I like peanut butter, want to f?

that one works about as well as...

I like peanut butter, want to f?

It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time! (http://home.comcast.net/~etrata/flash/banana.swf)

:lol:

So for the past 2-3 weeks I have gone surfing on my lunchbreak. I get out of the water at the same time and I have seen this girl riding her mountain bike, taking a brief rest where I park, and then continuing on. She is beautiful !!! I NEED to talk to this girl for two reason.....# 1 she is hot, # 2 i need a riding partner and who better than a hot girl. I was just wondering though if there is some specific way to talk to bike girls ? Is there a safe intro question I could ask, like ....." say, is that a shimano 2000 blah blah blah?" Help me out guys, I am a dork and I need a girlfriend.

My favorite "line" was when a guy told me that I was setting a nice pace. I appreciated the complement. You could tell her that she was riding at a nice clip, ask her if she rides a lot, ask how far she's riding, tell her that you ride, where and how far etc... Basically lots of little questions so she can get a sense of your demeanor and can figure out that you have something in common. If it's going well, ask for her number or see if she wants to meet you at that same place (since she's familiar with it and comfortable there) to ride with you and maybe grab some lunch. :)

I like Kristen's idea.

+ we need some updates. What happened? Did you do anything? Did you wimp out? What?

BTW Thanks for letting all of us perfect strangers into your love life. Its exciting!

Dude, you gotta be honest with yourself and sincere with her. So what do you want?

1. A riding partner?
2. or a girlfriend?

Each of those would require a different approach. And the approach technique itself will vary depending upon the results.

A. There are shotgun techniques that will work for both #1 & #2 goals, low yield, but just a numbers game, hit up a lot of chics.

B. The sniper approach, one-shot/one-kill with high-yield returns. If THIS chic is the ONLY one you want for #1 or #2, then you're going to need a specific customized approach for her specifically and it will be different based upon whether you want her simply as a friend & riding-partner vs. a girlfriend.


A lot of people will say that the chic will make up her mind about you within 3-seconds of meeting you, but I say that she actually picks up your vibes well before you even approach. However, I think you still have a lot of sway in the 1st 30-seconds. If it's not going click-click-click each step in succession heading in the right direction, forget it and move on.

BTW - this is general-idea big-picture overview, the actual content of what you're gonna do and say will have to be customized to your particular circumstance.

Just go up to her and start chatting, why?
Beautiful women get less approaches from nice guys than you think, many guys are in your same position, afraid of rejection. (I'm assuming you are a nice guy and not just another DEXTER)
Having said that: first impressions are always very important. Want to know how it will feel? Try this exercise and imagine: u just stepped in an elevator with her and you are going to the 10th floor but you see she pressed for the 5th floor. You know u wont see her ever again, you only have 5 floors to make an impression ... what will you say? Basically thats the amount of time it wil take her to have a first impression of you.
Two things for your approach, complement and reference. I agree with Kristin, a good complement will work but also tell her where she can see/ find you, become "someone " inmediatly for her. For example, the guy that surfs right there, loves to bike and happens to see her everyday. If she looks your way after some time you know you have a connection....
My two cents
Good luck

Just go up to her and start chatting, why?
Beautiful women get less approaches from nice guys than you think, many guys are in your same position, afraid of rejection. (I'm assuming you are a nice guy and not just another DEXTER)
Having said that: first impressions are always very important. Want to know how it will feel? Try this exercise and imagine: u just stepped in an elevator with her and you are going to the 10th floor but you see she pressed for the 5th floor. You know u wont see her ever again, you only have 5 floors to make an impression ... what will you say? Basically thats the amount of time it wil take her to have a first impression of you.
Two things for your approach, complement and reference. I agree with Kristin, a good complement will work but also tell her where she can see/ find you, become "someone " inmediatly for her. For example, the guy that surfs right there, loves to bike and happens to see her everyday. If she looks your way after some time you know you have a connection....
My two cents
Good luck

My name is Dexter.

...also tell her where she can see/ find you, become "someone " inmediatly for her. For example, the guy that surfs right there, loves to bike and happens to see her everyday. If she looks your way after some time you know you have a connection....


Agreed with that part! In my youth (oh so far away) I have heard about every pick up line imaginable.

Someone coming in straight out of the blue and starting a conversation is not necessarily a good thing. The "I've been watching you" bit is a bit too stalker-like. Gals have to be on guard when they're out on their own, sad to say.

If you know where she will be, just be around, catch her eye and nod, or smile, or give a 'hello'.
That's it. Then leave her alone. Let that happen a few times and if she responds in a positive way, then strike up a conversation. You've upgraded from "total stranger" to "friendly surfer dude" and she'll probably feel better about talking to you.

Oh, and I have no problem with a guy asking me about components. Or materials. Or training methods. Or who will become team leader for CSC this year. But that's just me.

Agreed with that part! In my youth (oh so far away) I have heard about every pick up line imaginable.

Someone coming in straight out of the blue and starting a conversation is not necessarily a good thing. The "I've been watching you" bit is a bit too stalker-like. Gals have to be on guard when they're out on their own, sad to say.

If you know where she will be, just be around, catch her eye and nod, or smile, or give a 'hello'.
That's it. Then leave her alone. Let that happen a few times and if she responds in a positive way, then strike up a conversation. You've upgraded from "total stranger" to "friendly surfer dude" and she'll probably feel better about talking to you.

Oh, and I have no problem with a guy asking me about components. Or materials. Or training methods. Or who will become team leader for CSC this year. But that's just me.

Who WILL become the team leader for CSC this year?

My guess is the'll either snag Vino or only focus on the classics this year with Cancellara at the helm.

Then again, I don't really follow cycling.

I'm thinking Schleck.
I can't see Jens, as much as I like him. Sastre is great on the climb, but on the descent... well, he's no il Falco. Even without Basso, CSC is still very strong.

Shows you how much I know...the only guys I remembered from CSC were Fabian and DaveZ.

Help me out guys, I am a dork and I need a girlfriend.
Better yet, don't be honest with her...

;)

Why don't you just adjust your lunchbreak and arrive to "get ready to surf" about the time she's resting there. Then you can chit chat a few times about whatever. That will help her see you are enjoying your lunchbreak just like her, not some stalker.

Then if you see her once or twice next time ask her name and if she must live in that area blah blah. You ride too blah blah. Do you ride every day blah, I ride weekends/mornings blah blah.
"I was thinking about riding at noon too, is this a good area ?"

Next time you show up and ride at noon. Maybe you'll get to chat.
I never believed in "one shot one kill" lets bang on our first date... etc.

Get to know her. Maybe you'll realize that while she's pretty... she's pretty dumb too.


And then your'e SET!!
:D

Why don't you just adjust your lunchbreak and arrive to "get ready to surf" about the time she's resting there. Then you can chit chat a few times about whatever. That will help her see you are enjoying your lunchbreak just like her, not some stalker.
:D

But isn't that what stalking is? :rolleyes:

I never believed in "one shot one kill" lets bang on our first date... etc.


-1

I, for one, believe in that. :D

Who was that girl riding?
She was riding me the night before. Hands off.

Who was that girl riding?
She was riding me the night before. Hands off.

AWESOME avatar....

and before anyone says 'Batman', think again... American Psycho!!!

I thought it was the "Where are they now?" part of Empire of the Sun.

I never believed in "one shot one kill" lets bang on our first date... etc. By "sniper one-shot/one-kill", I don't mean banging her on the first date. I mean to get the results you want with that specific chic. Be it a biking-partner or a girlfriend OR a 1st-date banging, doesn't matter. It's getting the results YOU want from this particular girl. To get high-percentage returns on each and every encounter require a customized approach specific to that girl only; won't work as well on anyone else but her. That requires being observant, picking up the subconsious cues, being flexible and resourceful in the moment. It's like playing chess and thinking 5-6 moves ahead.

AWESOME avatar....

and before anyone says 'Batman', think again... American Psycho!!!

Thank you. While I am not from Southern Cali, I couldn't resist posting.

But isn't that what stalking is? :rolleyes:

But, it doesn't LOOK like stalking. That's the key!

Coinciding your surfing wih her riding is better than pacing around outside her apartment all night. That's stricktly for after the 4th date.

sunflower - where do you surf and where did you see her? i wanna ride down there tomorrow at lunch and check her out.

torrance beach, right by Alfredos.....i havent seen her in a few days. i'm afraid she read this thread and got spooked, lol

I cant handle that post danno :(

You cant 'get results' from every person in life and trying to be 5-6 moves ahead like its a chess game sort of makes me a bit sad. I say walk your own path and if someone elses path intersects yours in a tangible manner then explore the situation and share whatever it is you have with that person.

The idea that there is some kind of 'science' or 'fluid artform' to maximize your results doesnt really sit well with me. I think enough amazing people intersect our lives just by walking our own paths. Each to their own though.The thing is, humans do this on a subconcious level anyway, especially women. Read "The Rules" by Ellen Fein and Sherrie Schneider for some insight to why women act the way they do. This "game" is innate in us and is an integral part of our primal being.

It really comes down to how you interpret the process, as "bad" or as "efficient". I manage a lot of non-profit projects and we've always got a tonne of volunteers to sort out. I've found that we make much better use of our resources and their volunteer hours if we match up each person's strengths with a specific task that they're good at. Rather than just doing first-in/first-out assignment where you grab anyone to do the immediate pressing task, you sit back a little and analyze the situation and see how to get the best results possible given the available resources.

Same thing with relationships, every single person in life is searching for and looking for something specific to their personality. No two people are the same. When approaching relationships, you must figure out what it is that they're looking for; that's one of the goal of effective communications. And not everyone talks the same or uses the same language, so you must tailor your listening to their particular mode of communications in order to truly understand their message.

Then you've got a higher ethical layer (I think this is what you're referring to, not the actual techniques I was talking about), that determines mutual benefits. If you do not have what they're looking for, then it's really not in your interest or theirs to pursue things further. However, you cannot arrive at that conclusion until you've made a connection with that person and determined what it is that they're seeking. Sometimes, the move 5-6 steps ahead that you're forseeing is a graceful exit that saves face for both of you, "Hey, it was great talking, but I don't have a lot of time for you right now. And if I run across contractors that can help you with fixing this bar, I'll send them your way.:)". Most of the time, you can glean a huge boatload of information from just observing people and their posture, and body-language and gestures.

Time is the most valuable thing we have in life, and to waste other people's time is disrepectful of their goals and commitments. If you "be yourself" and use the exact same approach and hit up 5 chics a day:

"Hi my name's BLAH-BLAH. How are you doing today? I like your hair, that's a pretty smile you've got. Wanna do lunch?" http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/DannoXYZ/GraemlinsSmilies/Graemlin-Puking.gif

You're gonna be wasting your time AND their time. Rather, I find it's much more respectful and sincere to be genuinely interested in THEM specifically:

1. "HEY, that's a nice Trek! I had the same one a couple years ago. How'd you like it?" or...

2. "Noticed you posted a note at the bike-shop looking for riding partners. I ride about 5-days a week. What kind of workouts are you interested in doing? I'll see if I can fit you into my schedule.. ;)"

3. "You look like you could really use a good neck & back rub! ;) <smirk>. Here's the massage-therapist I use <hand over card>. I haven't seen anyone yet that she couldn't make feel better. See ya"

4. "So ah.. you have a boyfriend? You want a better one? ;)"

All different approaches customized to the particular person and the specific frame-of-mind they're in at that particular moment. The ethical path is to offer people something that is of value in their life that will leave them better off than before they met you.

The thing is, we STILL don't know what it is that the OP wants with this chic.


Trying to actively 'position' yourself to be something to someone else when it isnt an action you would normally take would be rather unethical I would of thought (in the context of relationship formation).Well, it comes down to what you "normally" do, eh? For some people, it's not "normal" to brush their teeth in the morning or to make time-schedules and to-do lists each day, yet for other, it's perfectly "normal". Daily-routines and habits is a matter of training. And with different routines & habits you get different results in life. It's just like choosing chocolate or strawberwie ice-cream, they're just differnet results, one isn't "better" or superior than the other. It's just a result that you are picking.

Regardless of whether you're "actively" trying or not, you are ALWAYS positioning yourself to potential mates and in relation to competitors. How you style your hair, how you dress, the way you speak, the way you walk, talk, dance, how you hold a drink, how you sit, how you use your silverware, etc. are ALL broadcasting out tonnes of information about you. You may think that you're just expressing "you" and yourself as "who you are". But WHY are you sending out these messages? Women are especially atuned to picking up these non-verbal subtle cues. And for many people, managing the expression of these clues effectively to their benefit is so automatic and subconcious from practice, that it's "perfectly normal".

And the chics can tell you of numerous times when they see a guy walking down the street, and there's something about him that catches their attention, something intriguing, something that makes them want to investigate and it gets that man on the boat rocking a little... They'll tell you about "that guy" they just met and there's just "something about him" that turns them on and they're attracted to, but they can't put a finger or express what it is about him.... There's more primal animal instincts and intuition that controls us than you think. ;)

BTW - there is no such thing as non-gendered communications.

ok i like all that much better....i guess the use of the term 'natural self expression' sits better with me than 'active positioning or posturing'. thats all :)yeah it is! ;) You can totally tell the guys that are trying too hard and aren't being themselves. That's not so much of a problem with their technique, they have the right idea, but their coach blew it by making them try take too many steps at once. You can't become a champion pole-vaulter in a single competition.

It really comes down to the results you want. Being a fast crit-racer requires a lot of practice and if that's the results you want, sure you're gonna look like a goof riding circles in parking lots and fumbling with scratching your pedal. But you know what? Every single top crit-rider has gone through that awkward phase at some point in their life. It's a process of continual self-improvement.

I've been doing salsa-dancing for a couple years. And I'll tell you that if I had seen the videos of myself dancing those first couple months, I would've quit instantly! Same with skateboarding, surfing, singing, playing the piano, telling jokes/stories, drinking & partying, playing with chics and dating, etc. There's always a beginning point that's some distance away from the results you want to achieve. And with practice you get better and better and closer and closer to your goals.

Again, it's stepping out of the self that you've been for the self that you "could be". All new results that you've never gotten before starts with a dream. If you can imagine it, then at least can kinda see a path there. Then it's a matter of taking that next step, then the next and the next on a journey of a thousand miles. Eventually, you'll get there... never, ever give up! :)

I dont know. Im sure it will take a lifetime to figure it all out :)Isn't that the fun part? ;)


However in the narrow context of being with a girl then I cant apply your advice about being the person i 'could be' just the one i already 'am' nor can i accept the premise that I ought to be aspirational to obtain the 'hottest' chick I can possibly get my hands on. I dont want the hottest or the best just the one that is right for me and this gets back to the girl riding her bike.I don't think I mentioned anything about hottest chic? Although this kinda points towards the paradox in dating where a man will seek his ideal mate first, while a woman will try to create her ideal from whoever she's with at the moment (project boyfriends). Also kinda shows the "ladder theory" of dating as well. You as "who you are" is fine and perfect. It's a certain kinda of total package and has a certain "attractive" value. Compatibility comes in when you match up with someone else of roughly the same "attractiveness" on the ladder.

However, the breakdown that often occurs is when people try to get the "best" that they can attract. And often times, that one is higher up on the ladder than them. :( This is where improving oneself comes in. Nothing wrong with who've you been, but who you "could be" may raise you up on the ladder if you're seeking the ones up there. Heck, just learning massage will bring you up several notches alone. ;) For women, due to what men seek, they can do a lot with appearance. However for men, due to women not placing as much importance on looks, we have to work a little harder to climb the ladder... ;)

I guess the ultimate question is: Are you attracting the types of mates you want?
and if not: What will it take to do so?

Ok ive been meaning to ask you this for ages. How the hell do you know so much about so many things?? Ever since ive arrived on this site ive seen you post across a myriad of topics often in impeccable detail with significant personal insight. It is very impressive!! Why do I get the impression your IQ is probably way over 150 lol :) Anyway cheers for the insights on this topic - you better bring the thread back on topic for the OP or I will get reported again for derailing threads...:D

I feed him the information.

Just kidding, you are not alone in wondering how he knows so much about so many different things. He reminds me of the shoeshine guy "Johnny" on Police Squad. In any case, Danno is a real asset to this forum.

is that avatar from the bit where they get into the pissing contest about their 'business cards'?

:roflmao:

yes. thus the "that's bone" quote above it.

torrance beach, right by Alfredos.....i havent seen her in a few days. i'm afraid she read this thread and got spooked, lol


lol. you'd figure she'd know you are a nice guy with a name like "sunflower". :D

i'm heading down there for my ride around lunch....i'll look out for any hotties on bikes.