"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - OVER/UNDER Davieee Zabriskieee Hour Attempt

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fly:yes/land:no
12-15-06, 12:49 PM
possibly the coolest rider in the pro peloton is going for the american hour record in two days. i think he is doing the ondrey sosenka old school style. any guesses? 45.5-48.5 is my best guess (kinda wide spectrum, huh?) i don't know, it seems like his speed in time trials is derived from his aero position not so much power. think that advantage will be lost in the track drops. should be interesting.


bdcheung
12-15-06, 01:05 PM
I think he'll make 45-45.5km

PolishPostal
12-15-06, 01:06 PM
The way the article reads there isn't a current US record holder, right? If that is the case at least he's guaranteed a record.;)


Grasschopper
12-15-06, 01:23 PM
The way the article reads there isn't a current US record holder, right? If that is the case at least he's guaranteed a record.;)
Yes there is no recorded US record. You beat me to the post...I was going to bet he sets the record. :D

flythebike
12-15-06, 01:42 PM
i don't know, it seems like his speed in time trials is derived from his aero position not so much power. think that advantage will be lost in the track drops. should be interesting.

I'm sure you have a point but to some extent good position is good position. He has to be flexibile to get that low so no reason he can't do the same in the hooks.

shakeNbake
12-15-06, 01:59 PM
He'll probably do it in a clown suit or something like that.

It's a charity event, btw. Landis and Bobke will be there.

Voodoo76
12-15-06, 02:02 PM
The way the article reads there isn't a current US record holder, right? If that is the case at least he's guaranteed a record.;)

Shoulda gone out and rode one last week, guranteed record.:D

Dubbayoo
12-15-06, 02:42 PM
Yes there is no recorded US record. You beat me to the post...I was going to bet he sets the record. :D
that gives me 36 hours to set it so he can break it.

botto
12-15-06, 02:47 PM
that gives me 36 hours to set it so he can break it.

US record of 31.6 kp/h?

Dead Roman
12-15-06, 03:21 PM
lance has tried it so there has to be a current us record

botto
12-15-06, 03:24 PM
lance has tried it so there has to be a current us record

incorrect.

Cypress
12-15-06, 04:41 PM
incorrect.


Did he not finish?

Seems like if he finished it, there should be an American record. Not a horribly fast one, but it should be there...

Smoothie104
12-15-06, 04:45 PM
Lance never attempted it. He'd be foolish to try as well.

If he does it, its not going to make him any more famous really..

But he runs the risk...albiet a small one, of failing the doping controls. Some of us think it would be a set up, some of us would think it was about time etc.... But regardless of your stance on that issue, theres a lot at risk for little gain.

Cypress
12-15-06, 04:48 PM
Oh ok. I thought he actually attempted it. My mistake.

eskimo85
12-15-06, 04:57 PM
If he does it, its not going to make him any more famous really..


I hope that wouldnt be his reason for doing it.

Dead Roman
12-15-06, 05:58 PM
i thought he had attempted it a few times early in his career. Apparently I was misinformed.

Keith99
12-15-06, 06:16 PM
Forget Lance. D@mn 99ers keep forgetting those from a little bit back.

40.781 kph (25.2 mph)
William HAMILTON (USA)
1898 July 9
Denver, Colorado, USA
1,600 meters

OK a long ways back but Willie held the worlds record, not just the U.S. record.

So as I see it there has been a U.S. record for over 100 years. They don't retire records just because they get old do they?

lotek
12-15-06, 06:26 PM
hmmm haven't heard the term 99ers in a while.

sort of on the same topic, anyone know if Major Taylor ever set/held world or US
records? given his stature as a rider one would think he did.

marty

DieselDan
12-16-06, 06:53 PM
hmmm haven't heard the term 99ers in a while.

sort of on the same topic, anyone know if Major Taylor ever set/held world or US
records? given his stature as a rider one would think he did.

marty
I read where Taylor was World Champion in the Flying Mile in 1899.

Ceya
12-16-06, 11:04 PM
hmmm haven't heard the term 99ers in a while.

sort of on the same topic, anyone know if Major Taylor ever set/held world or US
records? given his stature as a rider one would think he did.

marty

Marty,

http://www.majortaylor.com/page3.html

August 1896 -- Taylor unofficially breaks two world track records, for paced and unpaced 1-mile rides, in Indianapolis. But his feat offends white sensibilities and he is banned from Indy's Capital City track.


http://www.majortaylorassociation.org/biography.htm

1898 -- Taylor holds seven world records, including the 1-mile paced standing start (1:41.4).

Nov. 15, 1899 -- Taylor knocks the 1-mile record down to 1:19



http://www.indygov.org/eGov/City/DPR/Parks/Major+Taylor+Story.htm

In spite of it all, by age 16, Taylor was a world class sprinter, a professional at 18, world champion at 20, and U.S. professional by age 21. In 1898 and 1899 Taylor's record setting speeds attracted the attention of the European promoters and the contracts and offers began to come in. By the end of the 1901 season, Taylor, who was still only 22 years old, had competed at every important European track, met and defeated the champions of every major European cycling nation



from a standing start.. fast.

S/F,
CEYA!

PolishPostal
12-17-06, 03:00 PM
Results? It was supposed to go off at 9am today.

bdcheung
12-17-06, 03:02 PM
Can't find anything yet.

fly:yes/land:no
12-17-06, 05:31 PM
sad news, this was posted on the fixed gear fever site:

"It was a miserable failure to communicate.

We arrived at ADT at 9:00am for the 9:00am start of Zabriske's Hour attempt. We found Dr. Kays on the track half way thru his Masters World Hour Record attempt.

30 min later, he ended w/174 laps....7 laps short of the record.

During his event everyone was murmuring about wondering where was David Z? Well, he was dressed in jeans and a tshirt sitting in the front row of the stands next to Floyd Landis. Most of the 50 specators wondered why he was not warming up. At least 20 people asked me why he was not warming up as they expressed anticipation at seeing him ride.

I dunno?....?.....

The second Dr. Kays was done, everyone applauded and half the audience got up and left.

The rest of us stood around waiting for Zabriske to ride. After waiting about 10 min we all watched him get up and amble across the track to the apron to chat w/the other VIP's while the officials packed up their gear, put away the starting gate and left the bldg.

Huh?

Turns out "Zabriske did not have the correct bike with him so the ride was cancelled."

I don't for one second believe that was why he did not attempt the Hour Record but it was the only unofficial reason given that I heard...

anyway....While we were still mingling and confused, Flyod (who has never ridden the track before) took a twirl around the black line on the blue accelerator bike and nearly crashed when he tried to coast to a stop at the starting gate....uh....the pedals and bike kept moving as he momentarily lost his cool! Just as he began to recover, he ran into the sponges that were still on the blue band and had to get up to the black line....w/almost enough speed to stay on the track. All's well that ends well?

With that the VIP's packed up and headed down to San Diego for some exhibition laps?

....def a bizzarre event. Half the people at ADT were def expecting Zabriske and the other half were not expecting Dr. Kays. No one seemed to leave satisfied. "

PolishPostal
12-17-06, 06:34 PM
Well that sucks.

bdcheung
12-17-06, 06:42 PM
bummer.

cmh
12-18-06, 10:44 AM
So Dr. Kays is the current U.S. hour record holder? 174 laps = how many miles?

offthepace
12-18-06, 09:36 PM
Well, if i did the math correctly, he did roughly 43 kilometers which is around 27 miles.
Regarding Zabriskie, I heard that he didn't ride due to the fact he was not allowed to ride a non-team bike. Though, he had one down in San Diego and rode (I wasn't there).

fly:yes/land:no
12-19-06, 10:03 AM
yeah, i wasn't there either, just posted the comment from someone on fgf. that would make sense, though. i think they make a track version of the p3, not sure if that would have been legal though. i guess he would use a soloist? with rear dropouts? not sure they make those. oh well. i guess there is a catch to getting bikes for free.

dutret
12-19-06, 12:44 PM
I think it would have to be an r3.

offthepace
12-19-06, 10:28 PM
He did not use a track bike in San Diego nor did Floyd. Z seemed really tired at ADT when I talked with him, so I'm surprised he rode at all.