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steppinthefunk
12-16-06, 08:46 PM
Hey guys and gals... I was wondering what methods people are using to shave off cable guides from a steel frame... I was thinking of bringing the frame to a frame builder to be taken off but figured I would try to see here first if it can be done myself...

Another related question... How much would be a resonable fee that you would pay to have it done professionally...

Thanks for any replies...
Jason


BuddyMike
12-16-06, 08:48 PM
How I did it: hacksaw and file.
Time: about 5 minutes

deathhare
12-16-06, 08:51 PM
How I did it: hacksaw and file.
Time: about 5 minutes
Exactly. A framebuilder? Are you kidding?..just cut em off nice like with a hacksaw blade and file afterwards. Add touch up paint to avoid the rust. What secret magic would a builder do? He'd do the same thing.


Landgolier
12-16-06, 08:51 PM
Saw and file is the best, pick up a little auto touchup paint so you're not planting the seeds of rust. You can do it with a torch, but it's a crapshoot as to whether it will mess up your finish.

BuddyMike
12-16-06, 09:04 PM
definitly paint over it after. I did mine when I was repainted my frame and you wouldn't know that guides were ever there.

kemmer
12-16-06, 09:42 PM
Don't tell the cranky and vintage guys what you're talking about...

666pack
12-17-06, 01:13 AM
i've heard of dremeling cable guides off... but the most common method i've seen is hacksaw and file.

take your time with the filing! my first conversion (schwinn continental) is sporting some pretty serious flaws from filing down cable guides too quickly. sit down and take your time.

BuddyMike
12-17-06, 01:40 AM
The hacksaw will take most of it off. That guides are a lot softer than the frame and come off fairly easy, so you'll only really use the file to smooth it mostly.

Smiziley
12-17-06, 01:48 AM
Dremel takes it off like a hot knife to butter.

sbcdestroy
12-17-06, 02:09 AM
I'm going to dremel mine when I get ready to have it sandblasted for fresh color.

crankstar
12-17-06, 04:32 AM
use a chisel and hammer, they pop right off.

Rusty Valiant
12-17-06, 05:50 AM
I just gnaw them off.

bonechilling
12-17-06, 07:08 AM
Ok, I'll say it - Why?

Grampy™
12-17-06, 07:20 AM
Ok, I'll say it - Why?
Their weight is oppressive......seriously if you don't use cables(brakes) why have 'em? Empty cable hangers spoil the "clean" look.

sweep242
12-17-06, 07:52 AM
I used an industrial grinder it worked but i now have some marks around the guides it was a bit heavy & hard to handle. Wish i had of used a file, but i touched every thing up with some auto touch up paint & looks nice and clean.
Cheers
Also I went to a frame repair place they wanted 15.00 a piece.
DIY

trons
12-17-06, 08:23 AM
my roommate yanked his off with pliers and then filed

Cynikal
12-17-06, 10:25 AM
A torch is the best way to get them off, but only if your frame is unpainted. A propane one will do.

rhelfor
12-17-06, 12:17 PM
Would this sort of minor surgery be out of the question on an aluminum frame?

sbcdestroy
12-17-06, 12:18 PM
no, just take it slow and steady.

mander
12-17-06, 12:52 PM
take your time with the filing! ... sit down and take your time.

+1. Think really clearly about every cut you make, because it's a pain in the ass if you want any of that metal back. Don't get greedy or impatient.

jjvw
12-17-06, 02:49 PM
Just hacksaw most of it off and then carefully file it smooth. If you aren't used to a dremel or grinder, it is very easy to grind off too much. None of this is difficult. Just go slowly and be patient.

Also remember that, like a saw, a file only cuts on the push stroke.

seely
12-17-06, 02:58 PM
Actually, if you screw up and take too much off its not the end of the word. You can always use a little JB Weld as filler.

Aeroplane
12-18-06, 07:11 AM
Don't do it to anything nice. That's all I got to say. Old Nishikis, Miyatas, Centurions, and other bike-boom era frames are fair game. Your dad's Merckx, Colnago, or Ciocc is not.

Fixxxie
12-18-06, 09:16 AM
Their weight is oppressive......seriously if you don't use cables(brakes) why have 'em? Empty cable hangers spoil the "clean" look.

Also
I had mine just sitting on there and my shorts/pants kept getting caught in the rear one so thats the main reason for removal. they are kinda ugly just sitting there though

seaneee
12-18-06, 11:08 AM
Dremel takes it off like a hot knife to butter.

+1

A dremel, even a cheap one, is a rad thing to have around in your tool kit. Good for that stuff, and cleaning off rust, grinding down bolts and bits, etc. I think you can get them for around $40. Totally worth it.

thatcher
12-18-06, 05:57 PM
i ripped the guides off on an old pos khs n it ripped a hole in the top tube too. so i did the other 2 n now its got 3 holes. taped right over them. looks like ****. dont care.

Gurgus
12-29-06, 07:57 PM
Idiot that I am, I went to remove the rear deraillur guide on my fixed conversion with a hacksaw and screwed it up. Took more material than I wanted from the chain stay. I'm wondering if it's dangerous to ride? Seriously pissed at myself as I've had this frame for about four years and it's been through the wars with me.

Will the JB weld trick work to fill it in? It's nothing special(80's Norco Monteray, Hi-Tensile steel). I'm kinda of hesitant to take off the cable guides for the rear brake as they are on the top of the top tube. At least this time I'll use a Dremel.

I was thinking on bringing the bike to a black smith in town. Maybe get him to fill my mistakes and throw some track ends on it. Then maybe powder coat.

Like I said, it's a bit of a mutt, but I love it.

deathhare
12-29-06, 08:04 PM
i ripped the guides off on an old pos khs n it ripped a hole in the top tube too. so i did the other 2 n now its got 3 holes. taped right over them. looks like ****. dont care.

Ever seen one of these?...guess not.

http://www.kwtool.com/catalog/images/HACKSAW.jpg

wrote4luck
12-29-06, 08:06 PM
Butcherers! J/K. I'd use a hacksaw or dremel as it's fairly easy to control and smooth out.

DasProfezzional
12-29-06, 09:07 PM
If they're not brazed on with Gundanium (google it,) it's quite the simple.

I sawed about halfway through the brazing with a hacksaw, then clamped down on the stop with a vice and twisted. Popped that sucker right off. Pretty clean if you do it right; file it down of course.