Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Jersey Design

We talked about a clydesdale jersey. Here is my work up.

What do you think?

This on both sides:
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with text on back underneath the art which says,

"There is a reason they call us draft horses."

Basic white jersey.

(I'd love to hear feedback.)

My guiding principals from old discussions were:

nothing fat (cause there are a bunch of fit 200+ pounders)
nothing too risque
nothing too colorful
something subtle
something clever


What I did for the picture was take a regular horse and "beef" him up to be a clyde. (Bigger hooves, more mass on legs/head/neck/underside/etc)

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Now it is :)

Great start!

Is there a way of making the horse look like it's running more? I'd love to see a gallop vs a trot. Maybe people on the bikes so it looks like they're all booking.

I think the text is perfect!

Awesome!!! Love it! I want 1 or 2. - JB

I know less about horses than I do about bicycles or bike jerseys.

So, which looks better?
32415 or 32416
or did I get it wrong?

I think I got the front legs right but I don't know about the rear...

The rear legs on the second one is close - have the front legs also go out.

http://www.marchabrazo.org/Running%20Horse.jpg

Wonder if there's a way of using that on there - I really like this pic!

Great start!

Is there a way of making the horse look like it's running more? I'd love to see a gallop vs a trot. Maybe people on the bikes so it looks like they're all booking.

I think the text is perfect!
I didn't put people on the bikes because there aren't riders on the horse and I didn't want to mix the whole thing up, plus I wanted it to look as much like the real traffic sign as possible and there is just no way to do stick figures on bikes without them looking goofy. Then throw in the helmet issue... with or without? And try and do a stick figure with a helmet taht doesn't look like a pecker-head!

Oh, and I cant draw for crap.

Air, that picture is not a clydesdale.

If you look at the detail on the horses I posted, I made them more muscular and gave them wider heads and bigger feet. (Like a Clydesdale.)

Are there any horse people out there? We have two NYC boys debating how horses run!

I like #3! It looks like a Knights Charger at launch on the joust (I've seen jousts as Pennsic and SCA events.). Clyde's were originally Scot Chargers, like the Morgans were French and English Chargers.

Air, that picture is not a clydesdale.

If you look at the detail on the horses I posted, I made them more muscular and gave them wider heads and bigger feet. (Like a Clydesdale.)

Are there any horse people out there? We have two NYC boys debating how horses run!

:roflmao: :roflmao:

I know it's not a Clydesdale but the legs definately give the impression of hauling ass! :D

Good point about the riders :)

Based on Hambone's design

I took jaxgtr's suggestion and used my newfound knowledge of the federal highway signage guidelines and did some research on running horses. This is what that wrought:
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NOTE: There was a post on the Clydesdale Jersey thread of a different image (a Poco cover) Check that out too.

I took jaxgtr's suggestion and used my newfound knowledge of the federal highway signage guidelines and did some research on running horses. This is what that wrought:
32466

NOTE: There was a post on the Clydesdale Jersey thread of a different image (a Poco cover) Check that out too.
I like this one here! It's excellent. If you aren't going to use it, let me know, I'd like to for a T shirt!

+1 Jb

without overthinking the thing, if it says "Clydesdale Ahead" -- should it be front and back?

If not, what on front?

Too bad the url for the clydesdale thread isn't:
http://www.bkeforums.net/clydesdales

Let me PM Joe.

Let me PM Joe.
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We'll see - it takes a minute to implement if he's OK with it.

And from that other thread:

http://www.poconut.com/images/scrapbook/album_thumbs/legend.jpg

Looks awesome for the front AND back of the jersey. I'm starting to drool over the thought of buying a couple. Hambone, you da man!!! -JB

We'll see - it takes a minute to implement if he's OK with it.I didn't get at first what "Let me PM Joe" meant.

I wish Bike Forums had a store, I'd love to put it there and let them get a piece.

You have to figure they could charge a premium, get them discounted and have some fulfillment person deal witht he actual headaches. (Plus it would keep me free of the next step which is apparently going to be Hambone going into the jersey vendor business.)

Haha - gotcha! :)

I really love the concept and the design. Great idea! :)

Just my $0.02....

Being a farm girl from Montana (did I just admit that?:o ) and a quasi 'horse person', I just wanted to comment on the leg position. The very first 'sign' posted has the legs of the horse running going in the correct direction. The 2nd and 3rd signs have the legs going in directions that aren't the natural position of a horse that is running. Now, being bucked off a horse or two, the 2nd sign reminds me of all hell breaking loose and hold on tight or prepare for a trip to the hospital for an arm cast...:eek:

The horse that Air* posted, that is 'haulin' ass' is a great example of a horse running that shows leg position. I can't say that I've ever seen a clyde haulin' ass in the sense of moving quickly - more along the lines of pulling one hell of a load. :D

Anyway, I'm sure there are lots of opinions out there. I'm happy to support the venture, whatever the design turns out to be. I think it is terrific idea!

I really love the concept and the design. Great idea! :)

Just my $0.02....

Being a farm girl from Montana (did I just admit that?:o ) and a quasi 'horse person', I just wanted to comment on the leg position. The very first 'sign' posted has the legs of the horse running going in the correct direction. The 2nd and 3rd signs have the legs going in directions that aren't the natural position of a horse that is running. Now, being bucked off a horse or two, the 2nd sign reminds me of all hell breaking loose and hold on tight or prepare for a trip to the hospital for an arm cast...:eek:

The horse that Air* posted, that is 'haulin' ass' is a great example of a horse running that shows leg position. I can't say that I've ever seen a clyde haulin' ass in the sense of moving quickly - more along the lines of pulling one hell of a load. :D

Anyway, I'm sure there are lots of opinions out there. I'm happy to support the venture, whatever the design turns out to be. I think it is terrific idea!so if I take the first one, move the head lower and forward (and stretch neck) then just extend each of the legs...

(FWIW- I found a video of a horse running, paused it at a couple of spots and modeled the 2nd and third after them. Horses sure do have some flailing legs! But it is more about how peole react to the image then accuracy and if the 2nd and third look wrong to horse people then... they look wrong.)

I'm home for a few days. I'll play with the image next week.

To whoever here celebrates it: Have a Merry Christmas!

I took jaxgtr's suggestion and used my newfound knowledge of the federal highway signage guidelines and did some research on running horses. This is what that wrought:
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NOTE: There was a post on the Clydesdale Jersey thread of a different image (a Poco cover) Check that out too.
Ha! I like it.

I'd love to see that image on the back, with a clydesdale head on the front (as if it were coming straight at you).

I'm not an artist (nor do I play one on television)...but I used MS Powerpoint & Paint to throw together three designs. It would be fairly easy to add "Clydesdale Crossing" to any of these.

I just did a Google search of "clydesdale" and clicked on "images" above the text entry. One thing I noticed is that ALL the photos displayed the characteristic prominent hooves. I hope whatever image gets used has that feature because it I think it conveys "Clydesdale" to everyone immediately - maybe even without the word.

I found a sign company that actually makes a Clydedale Xing yellow diamond sign:
http://www.signswithanattitude.com/horses/clydesdale.html

This is a budweiser pin from the 2002 winter olympics. Something in this style could also work well.

http://www.pinlink.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/SLC2464m.jpg

Ha! I like it.

I'd love to see that image on the back, with a clydesdale head on the front (as if it were coming straight at you).

+1 - that would be cool.

If you search Google Images (http://images.google.com/images?q=clydesdale) you'll see lots of Clydesdales. They're almost all standing still in characteristic Clydesdale poses like these:
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/horses/clydesdale/Mare.jpghttp://www.animalnetwork.com/upload/31/Article%20Images/%5CClydesdale.jpghttp://www.sangermansion.com/Clydesdale-enlarged388.jpg

I found a couple under saddle in motion, so you can see how the hooves move:
http://www.graysight.com/Clydesdale/Scarwarrs.jpghttp://www.clydesdalehorsesociety.com/gallery_files/Photos/RHSclydeRiddenWinner_edited.jpg

I think the beefy, muscular, standing profile is most recognizable, therefore best for a sign or a jersey.

While I'm not a horse person, my girlfriend grew up breaking and showing horses. My understanding is that draft horses just don't gallop. Not something they do... not something they're designed for.

There was an extensive thread or two on possible designs. The consensus (and I agree) is that the jersey shouldn't be Clydesdale = big but slow, especially since some of us (not I - but others!) can kick some serious 120# cf spandex roadie ass :D

Having a static or barely moving horse would only reinforce the idea that Clydesdales are big, slow, strong, lumbering and seemingly lazy when compared to the smaller and faster "thoroughbreds". Not something I'd be proud wearing unless it was true...which at least for me is not.

If that means bending the publicly accepted norm of what a Clydesdale horse is then so be it - don't we?

I think it needs to look more like this.33393

Message 12 has an excellent pic as well.

We talked about a clydesdale jersey. Here is my work up.

What do you think?

This on both sides:
32411

with text on back underneath the art which says,

"There is a reason they call us draft horses."

Basic white jersey.

(I'd love to hear feedback.)

My guiding principals from old discussions were:

nothing fat (cause there are a bunch of fit 200+ pounders)
nothing too risque
nothing too colorful
something subtle
something clever


What I did for the picture was take a regular horse and "beef" him up to be a clyde. (Bigger hooves, more mass on legs/head/neck/underside/etc)with all the aforementioned issues, I humbly submit the most recent version. (I just took the artwork from bear and blackened it to match the road sign guidelines.)

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Anybody have comments/thoughts on:
text on front/back
both/neither
and image...?

Also, with the bottom sign "Clydesdale Ahead" the "There is a reason they call us draft horses" text becomes redundant (but damn I like that line...)

thoughts?

Small point, but I'd rather "There's a reason they call us draft horses" vs "There is a..."

I like! I say sign with "Clydesdale Ahead" on front with "There's a reason..." on the bike with a bikeforums address.

Hambone, with Air's suggestions, I think you have a winner.

At $40 or less, I want two (2) XXXL, over $40 each, well, let's see how far over $40 we go...

with all the aforementioned issues, I humbly submit the most recent version. (I just took the artwork from bear and blackened it to match the road sign guidelines.)

33451


Anybody have comments/thoughts on:
text on front/back
both/neither
and image...?

Also, with the bottom sign "Clydesdale Ahead" the "There is a reason they call us draft horses" text becomes redundant (but damn I like that line...)

thoughts?
The draft horse line could be inserted under a "ground line" the sign is embedded in!

with all the aforementioned issues, I humbly submit the most recent version. (I just took the artwork from bear and blackened it to match the road sign guidelines.)

33451


Anybody have comments/thoughts on:
text on front/back
both/neither
and image...?

Also, with the bottom sign "Clydesdale Ahead" the "There is a reason they call us draft horses" text becomes redundant (but damn I like that line...)

thoughts?

Okay, I am in a weird mood, how about a clysdesdale head on the front, and a horses rear on the back, with tail, and it then says above Clydesdale and below Ahead....

There are other monikers too, like "You don't need to be a racing car to have a big ENGINE". You could use a bike with a big motor vehicle engine on the saddle, wheels spinning, for the automotive worshipers who will definitely not get it.... Blue for the clydesdales, pink for the Athenas....

Outside of the Clyde/Athena range, just about anything bike related, or how about a plain jersey with a retro-reflective stripe at the shoulder and waist, with an X pattern on the back, available in lime yellow day-glo orange, and retina fusing hot pink! The thing is, it wouldn't be made in Clyde sizes...

I've been trying to think of a way to play off of the old phrase "horses sweat, men perspire, and women glisten." There's no doubt that when I'm riding I sweat. Reason #27 of how I know I'm a Clydesdale.

Hey, we all love biking; we're all proud to be Clydes, regardless of shape, size or speed; and we all like the Clydes-lead-the-way motif. I think Hambone has found the design center. I say go for it!

Okay folks, time to "pony up" and do this, or let it go.

Okay folks, time to "pony up" and do this, or let it go.

count me in! i'd be all about it..

3-5X depending on who makes it..

Ditto here. Probably a 3XL or 4XL.

THis jersey is guaranteed to make me go faster, right?:rolleyes:

Ditto here. Probably a 3XL or 4XL.

THis jersey is guaranteed to make me go faster, right?:rolleyes:
Naw, if ya want to go faster, you need to ride ahead of a pack of starving wolves with a jersey composed of pork chops and steaks! (Meat, not pictures of meat!):p

I absolutely guarantee you'll pass a Ferrari!:D

Does anyone know who we can get to print this design on a series of Jerseys?

Does anyone know who we can get to print this design on a series of Jerseys?

The Road forum has been using this company...

http://www.champ-sys.com/pages/index.htm

They have sizes from XS (38 chest for a club cut jersey), all they way up to a XXXL (51" chest). There is, however, a minimum of 10 items of the same style.

The Road forum has been using this company...

http://www.champ-sys.com/pages/index.htm

They have sizes from XS (38 chest for a club cut jersey), all they way up to a XXXL (51" chest). There is, however, a minimum of 10 items of the same style.

They look great, and so are the prices. But their credit card order form has a clause that says they keep the artwork & rights to resell the uniform design. Is that typical of custom clothing makers?