Advocacy & Safety - New Jammer Looks Like a Cellphone

A new GSM cell phone jammer (http://cellular.co.za/accessories/phone_blockers/CELL-PHONE-JAMMER-SH066PL2A.htm), the SH066 that is designed to look like another cell phone has been launched.

The jammer has an output power of about 20mW and an effective range of up to 10 - 15 meters radius in optimum conditions, depending on the type and location of cellular system.


The cell phone jammer cannot be sold to UK customers http://cellular.co.za/accessories/phone_blockers/P51100205.JPG

This cell phone jammer looks just like a cell phone and is ideal for use when commuting on the bus and train or when eating in restaurants etc, anywhere where you need effective control at close quarters!


With this cell phone jammer switched on in your pocket you will be able to silence those anti-social types who insist on using their mobile phones in the most indiscrete way, the beauty is that they will not know it is you that has switched them off!, all they will see is that their signal has dropped on their phone.

When you have had your meal or enjoyed your coffee in peace and quiet, you can then switch off your phone jammer and continue on your way completely stress free.


Anybody ever think of purchasing one of these?

How much?
can you imagine in 5 years wow.
That is awesome. I can see it now phone rage. Only covers gsm and only 2 networks though so good if your overseas.

Friggin' beautiful.

I want one for my classroom. I can't think of a single teacher who wouldn't...

only legal for g-men/women and Tribal Administrators(Native Americans on reservations), in the USA. damn FCC

While it's nice to think about for cell phones, will it affect anything else out there? If a person has a cardiac pacemaker, could it screw up the settings and we end up killing a person at the next table at the restaurant?

While it's nice to think about for cell phones, will it affect anything else out there? If a person has a cardiac pacemaker, could it screw up the settings and we end up killing a person at the next table at the restaurant?

doubtful, since it's probably just sending out garbled versions of the exact signals cell phones send out.

But talk about the perfect murder!

no. the kind of person that uses this is just as inconsiderate as the fool yapping away on his cell, if not more so. You are in a public place that you share with other people. Who are you to dictate what other people can and can not do? Using a cell phone jammer is incredibly selfish. What if you are dining next to a doctor who is on call, and your selfish desire to stuff groceries in your maw without hearing other people causes her to miss a life or death call?

The only good way to reduce annoying cell calls is to get enough people to agree that it is a bad thing. Much the way we are cutting back on smoking. 'Til then stand next to them and play your music just as loud as their chat, no louder. When they complain say "I did not complain about your chat disrupting my music." Or you and a friend start a loud conversation next to them. Cell users might consider getting throat mikes.

Picture this:

Nascar Ned is toddlin along the road yappin on his cell. Being the law abiding citizen of New York state, he's utilizing a hands free device. Smug Sammy, thinking he's in the right, is employing his new cell phone jammer while he cycles along the road. As Ned approaches Roy, his cellular service cuts off. He glances down to see what might have happened. Temporarily distracted, he rear ends Sam sending him ass over elbows into the ditch.

Poetic justice?

no. the kind of person that uses this is just as inconsiderate as the fool yapping away on his cell, if not more so. You are in a public place that you share with other people. Who are you to dictate what other people can and can not do? Using a cell phone jammer is incredibly selfish. What if you are dining next to a doctor who is on call, and your selfish desire to stuff groceries in your maw without hearing other people causes her to miss a life or death call?

I completely agree, I'm involved with several organizations that request personnel via cell phones rather than pagers during/after emergencies. And what about those of us that may utilize text messaging, not while driving, but while in some place so we don't have to yack on our phones? I do hear people talking about the dumbest stuff on their phones sometimes, but I'd probably still hear the same thing if the other person on the phone was actually there with them so...

Our school had these put up in our school at the beggining of the year to stop students from using their phones.

Took maybe 3 weeks for them to be found and stolen/broken.

How about the call from my the care taker of my son with a disability saying he is in the hospital, having a seizure, etc., and we are needed there immediately?

Yes, it happened a few years back, when my wife and I were in a movie theater. We got some really nasty glances as we left the theater, but we made it to the hospital on time.

How about the call from my the care taker of my son with a disability saying he is in the hospital, having a seizure, etc., and we are needed there immediately?

Yes, it happened a few years back, when my wife and I were in a movie theater. We got some really nasty glances as we left the theater, but we made it to the hospital on time.

When I go into a theater or restaurant, I put mine on vibrate. That way I'm still available, but I'm not interrupting everyone else's life..

There are lots of coverage holes (especially in buildings), so it would be a mistake for people to think that having a cell enables them to receive/make all calls necessary for a life or death situation. If you're not in an area that's heavily populated/traveled, you won't get any digital coverage. This jammer only does GSM, but it doesn't say which frequencies, since there are several used in the US.

I'm going to guess it won't work with CDMA which is a huge part of the cell market in the US, and I don't know if it will work with TDMA or iDEN (though maybe some BF geek will chime in).

I suspect that dropping a call for an already distracted driver will distract them more.

Now something that would set off a radar detector would be cool, since you'd expect the natural reaction would be to look to the sides of the road to find the cop.

When I go into a theater or restaurant, I put mine on vibrate. That way I'm still available, but I'm not interrupting everyone else's life..

Well, pin a rose on your nose!

As I said this was several years ago when we had bag phones that didn't vibrate.

Yeah... my mother is an on-call nurse, and if she isn't able to receive an emergency call that could be a big problem. I mean, being in a place with no service would be the same situation, but if someones willingly jamming that signal for their own means, its a bit selfish. Lead by example and not through being a jackass (unless of course that is the example).

There are lots of coverage holes (especially in buildings), so it would be a mistake for people to think that having a cell enables them to receive/make all calls necessary for a life or death situation. If you're not in an area that's heavily populated/traveled, you won't get any digital coverage. This jammer only does GSM, but it doesn't say which frequencies, since there are several used in the US.



Geez. I've only been usiing cell phones since they came in a big bag with a 3.5 watt signal with analog only. Imagine, I never knew the above. Thanks so much. Hey, you learn something every day.

Oh, BTW, what alternative do you suggest?

1) Never go anywhere where there isn't a land-line phone immediately available?

2) Never go anywhere?

3) Stick around the hospital?

4) Never let your son with a disability do anything with someone else? Hey, he is 39 and I am 67. Maybe we need to break the strings some day?

5) Take your chances that perhaps you will not have cell phone coverage? Around here, in the Denver metro area, we have about 99% coverage, even inside big buildings. In fact, I can't remember the last time I couldn't get a call. If I am outside of the call reception are (i.e., bicycling in a mountain canyon) I make it a point to check the answering machine when I do have coverage, that is, provided some yokel with a "jammer" isn't some place nearby messing with the signal.

Geez. I've only been usiing cell phones since they came in a big bag with a 3.5 watt signal with analog only. Imagine, I never knew the above, Thanks so much. Hey, you learn something every day.

I have to get you a photo of mine that sits in the bike shed, right next to the mid '80s Raleigh USA roadbikes...

-Kurt

........I suspect that dropping a call for an already distracted driver will distract them more.
+1


Now something that would set off a radar detector would be cool, since you'd expect the natural reaction would be to look to the sides of the road to find the cop.
+10

Want to make someone on a cell near you move away? Make it obvious that you're eavesdropping on their conversation.:D

Anybody ever think of purchasing one of these?
Perfect Xmas toy for a self righteous etiquette nanny to enforce Proper Etiquette (PE) on the public. PE to be determined by the PC blessed nanny, eh?

Friggin' beautiful.

I want one for my classroom. I can't think of a single teacher who wouldn't...

oh, to see the looks on the faces of my little ****s (read: loving students) when their cell phone signals drop . . . they use their phones with impunity in my classroom because they know I wouldn't dare physically removing it from them.

I need to get one of these!

...they use their phones with impunity in my classroom because they know I wouldn't dare physically removing it from them.

I need to get one of these!
Sounds like there may be a bigger problem than cell phones in your classroom. What else can the students do with impunity in your classroom? Maybe you need a license to use a (stun) gun with impunity, eh?

Sounds like there may be a bigger problem than call phones in your classroom. What else can the students do with impunity in your classroom? Maybe you need a license to use a (stun) gun with impunity, eh?

Well, I taught in middle school, and had absolutely no problems removing cell phones used in my classroom. The school had a rule against them being used during school time. Period. They were confiscated, taken to the office, and the parent had to pick up the cell phone.

oh, to see the looks on the faces of my little ****s (read: loving students) when their cell phone signals drop . . . they use their phones with impunity in my classroom because they know I wouldn't dare physically removing it from them.

I need to get one of these!

So you don't even try to enforce the rules? They SHOULD be laughing at you...

Today, your cell phones.

Tomorrow, your bikes.

Careful what you wish for.

Merry Christmas!

Well, I taught in middle school, and had abcolutely no problems removing cell phones used in my classroom. The school had a rule against them being used during school time. Period. They were confiscated, taken to the office, and the parent had to pick up the cell phone.
Well unfortunately it doesn't work that way anymore. Now a days the teachers have no backing from the administration because they are afraid of the school board, the school board is afraid of the parents and the kids aren't afraid of anything. We have multiple incidences with cell phones being confiscated in schools and resulting lawsuits filed because it was going to cause harm to little Johnny/Suzy (don't want to be non PC here:rolleyes: ) because they can't follow the rules and suffer the consequences. In the latest one around here, Jr was using his cellphone in class, teacher confiscated it sent it and Jr to the office. Office keeps the phone and sends a note home with Jr telling the parents they need to come get the phone, they want the phone released to Jr, against the rules, 3 days later Jr gets his butt whipped after school (I wonder why) and the parents file a lawsuit against the school because it still has Jr's cellphone so he couldn't call for help....and it goes on ad nauseum. It is a sad comment on our society today... and for those people that HAVE to have a cellphone for emergency contact, may I suggest vibrate mode and text messaging? That is the way my company contacts us via our Nextel units when we are required to respond to an emergency. That allows us to then get to a location where it is safe/courteous to use the cellphone /walkie talkie portion of the phone. Again a common courtesy that is all too lacking in today's society.

Aaron:)

Well unfortunately it doesn't work that way anymore. Aaron:)

Anymore? I just stopped teaching 2 years ago. I guess things change very rapidly. Wow!

and for those people that HAVE to have a cellphone for emergency contact, may I suggest vibrate mode and text messaging? That is the way my company contacts us via our Nextel units when we are required to respond to an emergency. That allows us to then get to a location where it is safe/courteous to use the cellphone /walkie talkie portion of the phone. Again a common courtesy that is all too lacking in today's society.


I don't disagree with you on this, I prefer to keep mine on vibrate most of the time, even when it won't interupt others. But vibrate mode and text messaging aren't any good if somebody is jamming your signal.

I don't disagree with you on this, I prefer to keep mine on vibrate most of the time, even when it won't interupt others. But vibrate mode and text messaging aren't any good if somebody is jamming your signal.

I'm sorry, but when someone (or the hospital) is calling you on a regular phone, text messaging most likely won't be available, nor will they know how to use it. I don't know how to use text messaging, nor do I plan on learning. Must be a generational thing!

Well unfortunately it doesn't work that way anymore. Now a days the teachers have no backing from the administration because they are afraid of the school board, the school board is afraid of the parents and the kids aren't afraid of anything. We have multiple incidences with cell phones being confiscated in schools and resulting lawsuits filed because it was going to cause harm to little Johnny/Suzy (don't want to be non PC here:rolleyes: ) because they can't follow the rules and suffer the consequences. In the latest one around here, Jr was using his cellphone in class, teacher confiscated it sent it and Jr to the office. Office keeps the phone and sends a note home with Jr telling the parents they need to come get the phone, they want the phone released to Jr, against the rules, 3 days later Jr gets his butt whipped after school (I wonder why) and the parents file a lawsuit against the school because it still has Jr's cellphone so he couldn't call for help....and it goes on ad nauseum. It is a sad comment on our society today... and for those people that HAVE to have a cellphone for emergency contact, may I suggest vibrate mode and text messaging? That is the way my company contacts us via our Nextel units when we are required to respond to an emergency. That allows us to then get to a location where it is safe/courteous to use the cellphone /walkie talkie portion of the phone. Again a common courtesy that is all too lacking in today's society.

Aaron:)
I feel sorry for Jr. who has to put up with such a pinhead excuse for parents.

I still teach and it is my job to collect the cell phones and keep them for safekeeping. I have a little box on my desk with a small novelty lock. The box is homemade and has "Phone Booth" written on it.
My little darlings (7th-12th grade) hate the idea that I take their phones, Ipods, Mp3 players and walkmans. I do allow them to use their phone if I accept the reason as valid, or during an emergency.
A couple of years ago we caught some of them using txt msging during a test. Mr. Jones had a conniption fit and got permission to put an end to it. (me) And I did!
Steven

A cellphone jammer...

Way to set an example. For advocacy and safety, we sure seem to be more than happy to bypass a law if we think it'll help us out.

A cellphone jammer...

Way to set an example. For advocacy and safety, we sure seem to be more than happy to bypass a law if we think it'll help us out.
Not so much to help "us" out, as stick it to "them" (i.e. those other guys that offend the PC sensibilities of "us".) Isn't that right, OP?

Oh, BTW, what alternative do you suggest?

1) Never go anywhere where there isn't a land-line phone immediately available?

2) Never go anywhere?

3) Stick around the hospital?

4) Never let your son with a disability do anything with someone else? Hey, he is 39 and I am 67. Maybe we need to break the strings some day?

5) Take your chances that perhaps you will not have cell phone coverage? Around here, in the Denver metro area, we have about 99% coverage, even inside big buildings.

I am not against cell phones. As a matter of fact, I am required to have one on by my work. It's easy enough to use phones in such a way that that everyone doesn't have to be involved in everyone elses' personal/professional lives.

I wear an earbud and a tiny mike. I have a small button that no one can see that allows me to answer and still use my hands. Texting is especially useful for short critical messages because no one will know the message is sent, you'll receive it the instant you are out of a coverage hole, and you'll know exactly what to do. Many people don't realize I carry a phone, even when I'm using it in the same room and they can see me.

If it goes off, no one can hear the ring but me. I can quickly extricate myself with minimal disruption, and if I really have to talk, I can do it in a low voice that people close to me can't really hear but the caller can. If you expect to get calls in a public place, for your own convenience and consideration of others, it is a good idea to physically position yourself in the best place to respond to a call. At movies, this means being by an aisle. It's easy enough to be discreet at restaurants, but I often walk to a place with a bit more privacy when taking a call. One option that is always present is to gracefully leave as soon as the phone rings in your ear and call back within a minute.

I think some perspective is useful. Before the 90's hardly anyone had them. A bit earlier, no one had them. In a few short years, this device has gone from nonexistent, to a luxury for the rich, to a life or death tool for everyone.

BTW, for those of you who are wondering how I deal with the cell when biking or driving. Driving: look for place to pull over as phone rings. Press button to answer and pull over at first safe opportunity. Biking: phone is on loudest setting in pocket or pannier. I rarely can get to it before voicemail kicks in, but I can call back immediately.

I think there should be jamming devices as a matter of course in use for all the places where you aren't supposed to use cellphones such as on the plane, at the movies, doctors' offices, classrooms etc.

Disabling them removes the need to stick up nannyish posters asking people to pretty please be courteous and removes the uncomfortable situations where you have to go and play "mom" and admonish people for not following the rules as if they were recalcitrant children.

But as for controlling people in traffic I think it would make things more dangerous, not safer.

I'm with Banerjek: I have a wireless headset next to me. If it's safe, I'll grab the headset and answer. If not, then I don't answer.

While riding, I don't answer. I don't feel it, so I don't know it's ringing.

I pretty much always have my phone on vibrate (unless I'm in a movie...then it's on silent). I respond faster to tactile stimulus than I do to auditory.

I wish I could do without it, but it's a necessity for me due to various circumstances. I also use text messaging quite a bit. It's just the thing for a quick message which requires no response.

I'm with Banerjek: I have a wireless headset next to me. If it's safe, I'll grab the headset and answer. If not, then I don't answer.

While riding, I don't answer. I don't feel it, so I don't know it's ringing.

I pretty much always have my phone on vibrate (unless I'm in a movie...then it's on silent). I respond faster to tactile stimulus than I do to auditory.

I wish I could do without it, but it's a necessity for me due to various circumstances. I also use text messaging quite a bit. It's just the thing for a quick message which requires no response.

It's been established that talking on a hands free phone while driving is just as dangerous as holding a cell phone in your hand while driving. Either way, your mind is distracted from the task of driving. Safest thing to do is use voice mail and call back when you're stopped.

Text messaging is great, especially if you have a message prepared ahead of time that you can just hit a button and send. I'm told that the Japanese have developed a custom of sending a brief text message asking if it's OK to call, which sounds like a great idea to me.

Not so much to help "us" out, as stick it to "them" (i.e. those other guys that offend the PC sensibilities of "us".) Isn't that right, OP?

No, that's not right.
I don't want to "stick it to them", I just want their undivided attention focused on DRIVING.
Imagine that.

The only problem I see is as your riding on the roadways with motorists & their call drops because of the jammer you have in your jersey pocket or bag they look at the screen, causing them to take their eyes off the road which could cause an accident. Bad for you if you're next to them, etc. It is bad enough they are distracted while using a cell phone, but at least their eyes are on the road, more so then when they lose a call & have to look at the screen as a result.

Otherwise I want one if it will work in my area.

The "I have the right to irritate anyone anytime" attitudes here are the kind of responses you hear from addicts justifiying their addicitions. Immediately gravitating to the highly improbably defense: What if a life-altering emergency is occurring and I don't hear it about??" Like you always dine right next to a medical doctor at Mac's. Its like people don't have any sense of etiquette anymore. On multiple occasions I've seen people roaming up and down the aisles of the local library, carrying on conversations with their "outdoor voices".

A jammer would only have a limited range (3-6 feet) and once people learned that bikers might be carrying something that would interrupt their more-precious-than-life conversations they would start to give us space.

Hmm. The small print says they can only sell it to government agencies ... but the examples they cite (restaurant or commuting) don't really apply to government officials -- and why would a government official need to have a jammer that looks like a cellphone? They must be selling these to civilians through some back door (ebay?) ... or maybe the US isn't an important market..

No, that's not right.
I don't want to "stick it to them", I just want their undivided attention focused on DRIVING.
Imagine that.
And where is your attention as you are on your nanny patrol looking for cell phoners to zap? Or maybe you would just keep your zapper on full time, and teach 'em all a lesson.

A jammer would only have a limited range (3-6 feet) and once people learned that bikers might be carrying something that would interrupt their more-precious-than-life conversations they would start to give us space.
More likely, once it was "learned" that self righteous cycling nannies were jamming cell phone calls it would cause attacks on innocent bicyclists from cell phoners whose call got interrupted for any reason. No thank you for your nannying.

... On multiple occasions I've seen people roaming up and down the aisles of the local library, carrying on conversations with their "outdoor voices". ...
This is pretty tame. At the university where I worked at some years back, students would actually have pizzas delivered into the library (despite the no food policy). An incredible percentage carried huge soft drinks even though the nearest restaurants were several blocks away

Several times, I personally witnessed students unleash a tirade of obscenity laced abuse on any poor library worker who had the chutzpah to politely remind anyone of the policy. Hostile, indignant responses were outright common. Now that education has become more businesslike, you can't offend "customers."

The cool side is that if you're nice to people nowadays, the ones who aren't jerks (fortunately, there's still millions of considerable people) treat you like a king.

How about the call from my the care taker of my son with a disability saying he is in the hospital, having a seizure, etc., and we are needed there immediately?

Yes, it happened a few years back, when my wife and I were in a movie theater. We got some really nasty glances as we left the theater, but we made it to the hospital on time.

I'm sorry for your loss and I'm glad you got to the hospital in time.


Actually, I don't see anywhere here where you state it was a bag phone, only that it was a "few" years back. I'm sorry if I offended your sensibilities. Just because you can come up with a justification to be annyoying doesn't mean that it is right to do so. Rudeness is becoming more commonplace in our everyday lives. Many people seem to be oblivious to how rude they, we, have become.

I have to put up with customers that have headsets connected to phones everyday. You'll be having a conversation with them and they will, without saying excuse me or anything else, just start talking like you are not there. I had customer who just talking to someone when I was trying to help him, making customers behind him wait. When I tried to talk to the customer behind him while he, conducted his phone business, he stopped long enough to tell me he was first and then continued on for another five minutes talking to whoever was at the other end.

Even if it is an emergency phone call, you can still be polite and step aside.

The "I have the right to irritate anyone anytime" attitudes here are the kind of responses you hear from addicts justifiying their addicitions. Immediately gravitating to the highly improbably defense: What if a life-altering emergency is occurring and I don't hear it about??"

+1

I never had a cell phone and still don't want one. I'm I putting myself and my family at risk for sudden death?

If it's ok to irritate others with obnoxious phone blabbering in public, how is puting a stop to it with a jammer any worse? Oh wait, I forgot, someone might die. :rolleyes:

No, that's not right.
I don't want to "stick it to them", I just want their undivided attention focused on DRIVING.
Imagine that.

I've avoided this thread for a while, but this thought dragged me in.

Yes, I use a cell phone. Occasionally for short period while driving or ever (gasp) while riding my bike. So far so good.

My question though is related to "undivided attention" to anything. I bowled tonight, my normal Tuesday night league. I had to remove my wedding band because it was sliding off my finger. It was distracting, even though it was on my "off" hand. Given that something so integrated into my daily life was distracting from my immediate activity, what are the chances that anyone gives driving their undivided attention?

My guess is about 1,000,000:1. Isn't going to happen. People (except for self-righteous non-drivers) drive daily, so it becomes second nature. Something else is going to fill the rest of our limited capacity for thought. Whether you are thinking about what's for dinner, your upcoming exam, your kid's upcoming exam, how to paint the living room, your grandmother in the nursing home, whether you'll get laid tonight, the upcoming annual report, etc...the chances that any driver is giving the task of driving (or riding the bike) the undivided attention are pretty slim.

Legislate that. Then get back with me with a valid point.

If it's ok to irritate others with obnoxious phone blabbering in public, how is puting a stop to it with a jammer any worse? Oh wait, I forgot, someone might die. :rolleyes:

One's legal, the other isn't. That pretty much sums it up, unless you want to get into philosophy, which isn't really arguable in a logical way.


It's been established that talking on a hands free phone while driving is just as dangerous as holding a cell phone in your hand while driving. Either way, your mind is distracted from the task of driving. Safest thing to do is use voice mail and call back when you're stopped.

Text messaging is great, especially if you have a message prepared ahead of time that you can just hit a button and send. I'm told that the Japanese have developed a custom of sending a brief text message asking if it's OK to call, which sounds like a great idea to me.

Which tends to be what I do. I'm quite liberal with my voicemail feature.

That said, I would like you to then tell me why despite the close calls which I avoided while having a conversation (often interrupted by "Hold on," or "Hold on, this looks fishy,") I have been in only 2 collisions, both of which were nowhere near my fault. Both were rear-endings, and out of my control. I have avoided many accidents by discretion on when to continue a conversation and when to not, in addition to when to answer a phone and not.

Yeah, texts are great. I used them to coordinate rides for visiting family while in a movie... We were all in a movie while a cousin was out running errands. She needed to know when the movie was ending. Great stuff.

No, that's not right.
I don't want to "stick it to them", I just want their undivided attention focused on DRIVING.
Imagine that.

OK, so now we have two sets of inattentive drivers?

The yakkers and the jammers.

And what are the chances someone will be "enjoying their meal" in peace, next to an on call surgeon who is now unable to get the call to save your wife/mom/sisters life because of this.
Stranger things have happened.
There's a reason things like this are illegal to use.
I know that I for one am not about to go up against the FCC in court. Federal prison is no joke.