Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - FUJI Tracks

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deathhare
12-26-06, 08:18 PM
Another from me yeah. So this shop here is having a blow out on Fuji tracks. Going for about 300 bucks complete. As i mentioned in another thread, I had thought about getting my wife an IRO. But this is SO cheap for the Fuji i thought. Ive never paid these things much attention really and am wondering if anyone on here is rolling one. What do you think of it? The hubs seem a little lame lame.
The ones they have are the black and grey, apparently 06s.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7834/fujatrkvb5.jpg


mihlbach
12-26-06, 08:29 PM
Its a good starter bike and worth the money. I'd say go for it...but based on countless threads that have been started on this forum regarding this bike (including the same bike rebranded as a Windsor "the hour", and other bikes in this price range with similar components) there are two serious concerns.
#1 make sure the cog and lockring are installed correctly....they both must be properly tightened with the appropriate tools or the hub will strip.
#2 make sure the wheels are properly trued and tensioned or you will soon need new wheels.

Be sure of this when you buy it and you might even take it to another shop (or bike knowledgable friend if you have one) and have them make sure the bike is properly asembled. If you do those two things, you should be able to ride this bike for many miles without any serious trouble.


edit: also put a front brake on it...don't kill yourself

DerekRI
12-26-06, 08:32 PM
cant beat it for the price. i have an 06 and the matte black is hotness. do it.


youth
12-26-06, 08:39 PM
i've been riding my 06 hard for a 13 months, did some mess work on it and have been adding to/taking from and learning with it the whole time. i'm still happy with it, though i can't wait to build my own bike...

deathhare
12-26-06, 08:48 PM
Its a good starter bike and worth the money. I'd say go for it...but based on countless threads that have been started on this forum regarding this bike (including the same bike rebranded as a Windsor "the hour", and other bikes in this price range with similar components) there are two serious concerns.
#1 make sure the cog and lockring are installed correctly....they both must be properly tightened with the appropriate tools or the hub will strip.
#2 make sure the wheels are properly trued and tensioned or you will soon need new wheels.

Be sure of this when you buy it and you might even take it to another shop (or bike knowledgable friend if you have one) and have them make sure the bike is properly asembled. If you do those two things, you should be able to ride this bike for many miles without any serious trouble.


edit: also put a front brake on it...don't kill yourself

Good info there, thanks alot. Yeah it would get a brake cause i dont think she would set foot on it without and i wouldnt want her to anyway.

deathhare
12-26-06, 08:49 PM
i've been riding my 06 hard for a 13 months, did some mess work on it and have been adding to/taking from and learning with it the whole time. i'm still happy with it, though i can't wait to build my own bike...

Thanks, yeah i think the stem that comes on it is a little weird.

john_and_off
12-26-06, 09:02 PM
did the fuji track ever come with a threadless stem or has it always been threaded? is my memory playing tricks on me?

redxj
12-26-06, 09:54 PM
did the fuji track ever come with a threadless stem or has it always been threaded? is my memory playing tricks on me?

The Fuji Track Pro is threadless, but the regular Track is threaded. I have an older one (yellow/red 03?) that I got as a frame/fork/+ from ebay. I probably spent too much on it, but they don't make the jumbo 64cm size anymore. The only stock still on mine is the frame, fork, and seatpost. It's maiden voyage should be tomorrow!!

Speaking of it does anybody have an old Fuji catalog/broc. that lists the dimensions for the 64cm Fuji Track or know where I could find them. I would love to know angles, tt and st measurement, wb, and fork rake.

DerekRI
12-26-06, 09:55 PM
their website goes back many years.. check there

deathhare
12-26-06, 09:57 PM
The Fuji Track Pro is threadless, but the regular Track is threaded. I have an older one (yellow/red 03?) that I got as a frame/fork/+ from ebay. I probably spent too much on it, but they don't make the jumbo 64cm size anymore. The only stock still on mine is the frame, fork, and seatpost. It's maiden voyage should be tomorrow!!

Speaking of it does anybody have an old Fuji catalog/broc. that lists the dimensions for the 64cm Fuji Track or know where I could find them. I would love to know angles, tt and st measurement, wb, and fork rake.


Hey post a pic if you have it. :)

666pack
12-27-06, 12:06 AM
go for it. a friend of mine wants me to help him pick out his first fixed bike with christmas money, and i've been considering a windsor "the hour" for him. can't beat the price, three hundo is a pretty good price for a reliable track bike.

godless scum
12-27-06, 12:22 AM
i got an '03 frame set a while back. with good components on it, it's actually a pretty nice bike. i feel like it's lighter than my '05 pista beater that i had previous to it. the fuji's u-crown fork isn't nearly as offensive, either. i can't vouch for the stock components, obviously, but the frame is rad. just watch the measurements, mine is a so called "58" but thats because fuji uses the c-t-t instead of the more common c-t-c measurement. just clarify what you're getting from the dealer.

billypilgrim
12-27-06, 12:24 AM
i have an 05 frame laying around... the hub proved itself to be disastrously weak - a friend was riding it and whilst skidding downhill, the lockring stripped, the cog came loose, and aforementioned friend fred flintstoned himself to safety. i felt terrible, as i had loaned it to him while his frame was repaired. that said, i am impressed by the lightness of the frame, and with a good wheelset and drive train i am sure it would make a good ride.

scotthorrigan
12-27-06, 01:03 AM
i've also got this bike...i swaped out some components but all in all its a good bike.... and for some reason... it just feels ....FUN to ride.

deathhare
12-27-06, 05:58 AM
Thanks for all the comments. I just found out theyre actually 2007 models theyre selling at this price. Seems an even better deal....although i know theyre the same bike..just different color.

Dersu Burrows
12-27-06, 07:11 AM
I have an '05 fuji track, only stock components are the frame, fork and bb. I really like the bike, I ride the crap out of it and have crashed several times, inculding one 25+mph crash at the track with no frame damage. The frame is good. And light. I got the frame, fork, bb, headset and seatpost for $265 so that deal seems really good for a complete bike. I believe it comes with formula hubs now so hopefully the hub problems people experienced with the '06 has been rectified.

celephaiz
12-27-06, 07:14 AM
I have the 04. I didnt strip the stock hub but the spokes popped on a daily basis so i replaced with a surly hub laced to a mavic rim and the stock cog stripped the hub while sprinting from a stop. I replaced the cog with an eai, flipped the wheel and havent had any problems since. I also have little left that is stock (headset, frame fork, seatpost). But i would say but that at $300, if you have to replace the rear wheel cog in a month, fine you're still coming out ahead.

2manybikes
12-27-06, 07:53 AM
It's worth that price for sure. Have the spokes tensioned by a pro as soon as you get it to prevent spoke problems. Great frame nice and stiff, great crank nice and stiff. The hubs are poor. My rear hub bent the axle somehow. I put on Suze ProMax with the original rims, no problems. Of course it's not so cheap any more.

I Like Peeing
12-27-06, 09:09 AM
Wow, $300 is cheap. I think they look nice, I like how Merciers look too... Everyone I know that has one of these rides it hard, and complains about the bike, but continues to ride it.

I Like Peeing
12-27-06, 09:10 AM
Oh yeah, get it. And take the advice about the cogs/wheels. I know three people that have rolled the cogs right off during their time riding one. Use brakes.

2manybikes
12-27-06, 11:52 AM
Wow, $300 is cheap. I think they look nice, I like how Merciers look too... Everyone I know that has one of these rides it hard, and complains about the bike, but continues to ride it.

What do they complain about?

I Like Peeing
12-27-06, 12:42 PM
What do they complain about?

Mainly the drive train sucking. It's wise to check the cog/lockring before starting out on one. Some spider/chainring issues have come up, too. Again, check to see that the chainring bolts are tight every so often to prevent the rings from turning circles to ovals.

2manybikes
12-27-06, 02:57 PM
Mainly the drive train sucking. It's wise to check the cog/lockring before starting out on one. Some spider/chainring issues have come up, too. Again, check to see that the chainring bolts are tight every so often to prevent the rings from turning circles to ovals.

Thanks.

August Spies
12-27-06, 03:29 PM
For $300, even if you have to swap out the wheels (realistically, something you're going to want to do with any cheaper fixie you buy pre-built), it's a pretty badass deal. Plus it saves you all the trouble of getting even ****tier used parts on a frame (which will probably run you at least $300) while you wait for sweet deals on wheels and a better drive train etc.

But yeah. Watch the hubs...

redxj
12-27-06, 03:49 PM
Hey post a pic if you have it. :)

http://velospace.org/files/DSCF0472.JPG

I have searched on Fujis website, but only the 07 stuff comes up.

Retem
12-27-06, 03:54 PM
I have had two merciers and now have a khs flit 100 -(same bike) the stock drive train sucks quando/joytech hubs laced to oem ritchey hoops , stamped da cog sovos lockring, truvativ powersplined cranks and bb _ the creackiest int he business -

now that I am done complaining for three bills shipped to your door your are started into the world of fixed gear riding and with a pretty dang good frame and bike overall it is a starter bike and should be upgraded with more serious riding hell i think the one I sold to my friend is still being ridden bone stock... a year later

Retem
12-27-06, 03:57 PM
buy the bike for starters 300 bucks

1st month
new wheels 140 off ebay for formula hubs laced to xrims
new cog and lockring 40bucks at lbs

2nd month
bulletproof or fmf crankset and bb 40 bucks nycbikes has un52 for 10bucks

3rd month
tires and bars maybe new pedals

Suburbia
12-27-06, 04:23 PM
i bought one as a beater when fuji was doing closeouts in the fall through employee purchase at work so i paid next to nothing for it.
it's a great bike, but even if the cog IS tightened properly, the hub is pretty junky. when i assembled the bike i paid extra attention to tightening it and the lockring, it still stripped out that night around 12 going down a steep hill. fuji warrantied it, but i decided to just upgrade to a surly hub and dura-ace cog and lockring instead. also the stem on there is hideous and a little flexy so you may want to ditch that as well. other than that, it's a great bike. loads of fun and a really cheap way to get a decent track frame. here are a few pics of mine in its current state.

http://velospace.org/files/fujitrack1adsf2.JPG

http://velospace.org/files/fujitrack4asd2.JPG

mihlbach
12-27-06, 04:52 PM
You know, if they would just stock this bike (and others in this price range) with even a half-assed hub to begin with, then the reviews and posted comments for this thing would be 10 times better, which would translate into way more positive exposure. How much more would a slightly better hub raise the price of the bike...$20?
I think Fuji and the others are banking on the fact that most first time buyers don't have any knowledge about hub/cog name brand and quality issues.

jamey
12-27-06, 05:11 PM
2nd month
bulletproof or fmf crankset and bb 40 bucks nycbikes has un52 for 10bucks

that makes no sense. the cranks you suggested are no better than the stock cranks on the fuji...actually they're basically the exact same cranks.

ch0mb0
12-27-06, 05:48 PM
300 bucks? just get it already
even without the so-so parts it'll be a good deal.

I've switched out very little on my 05 and I'm still pretty happy with it.

BostonFixed
12-27-06, 05:53 PM
A local shop was blowing them out for something like $250..I passed.

Retem
12-27-06, 06:18 PM
that makes no sense. the cranks you suggested are no better than the stock cranks on the fuji...actually they're basically the exact same cranks.
wrong the new fujis come with powersplined touros on em and square taper is just way sturdy compaired to that junk they creak worst than my gramma's rocking chair

jamey
12-27-06, 06:50 PM
wrong the new fujis come with powersplined touros on em and square taper is just way sturdy compaired to that junk they creak worst than my gramma's rocking chair

i didn't realize that the new ones came with a splined bb/crank. some people were mentioning the windsor as well so in that case those would be comparable to the cranks you mentioned. i don't agree with square tapered being sturdier than splined though but maybe you are just saying the touros splined system is weak.

Retem
12-27-06, 07:08 PM
yes that is exactly it I have octalink and isis on my bikes as well as squares and love em all

the windsor and fuji track are the same bike the fujis have nicer paint and have a little more care in the construct

meltron
12-27-06, 07:11 PM
A local shop was blowing them out for something like $250..I passed.


What? Where? Metrobikes on 88th/Lex has one but it's $399 and an '05. I tried to get them to go lower but they weren't having it. All together with a front brake it came to $487. Now, there has to be a better bike I can get for close to $500...right? what happened to getting this thing at $300?

Retem
12-27-06, 07:14 PM
What? Where? Metrobikes on 88th/Lex has one but it's $399 and an '05. I tried to get them to go lower but they weren't having it. All together with a front brake it came to $487. Now, there has to be a better bike I can get for close to $500...right? what happened to getting this thing at $300?


get the windsor and a cheap brake windsors are 259 on ebay with 40 shipping right now

drued
12-27-06, 07:32 PM
http://velospace.org/files/IMG_3068.jpg
My Fuji, It's an 06 track. I have changed lots of the stuff.
Rear surly hub, New bmx chain. New stem, and bars.
Switch between risers and drops. Waiting on the funds for some new rims.
I love this bike so much buuuuuuuttt... with the money I have spent and plan on spending on parts I probably could have buily a pretty nice custom bike. This frame feels solid though, kinda like a beater Im not afraid to crash.

bonechilling
12-27-06, 07:36 PM
I know that this topic has been discussed at length, but how
about we update it for the 2007 models? How does the Fuji/
Windsor compare to the new Motobecances that have just
showed up on eBay for $327. Even though I am fancy and
race expensive carbon fiber ****, I am thinking of getting one
for running around town on.

Oh, here's a link to the Motobecane:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140067955308&rd=1&rd=1

Retem
12-27-06, 07:48 PM
all three are the same bikes same components the moto has tektro road brakes

quando-joytech of cheap formula hubs
oem?? hoops
cheap pedals
no name bars and sem I think zoom
truvativ touro powersplined cranks and bb
da cog and sovos formula or quando lockring
kalin - kalloy seatpost
cheap saddle
rocket headset if I remember
kmc chain

I forgot mto has a shimano f/w
48 - 16

deathhare
12-27-06, 11:52 PM
what happened to getting this thing at $300?

$300 is at a LBS near me.

DerekRI
12-27-06, 11:54 PM
Dont forget about THIS (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=225713&highlight=budget+discussion) thread...

deathhare
12-27-06, 11:57 PM
Dont forget about THIS (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=225713&highlight=budget+discussion) thread...

Thats a valuable thread but sadly isnt very useful to me as almost every bike mentioned in that thread isnt available here. :D

Soil_Sampler
12-28-06, 12:20 AM
http://velospace.org/files/DSCF0472.JPG

I have searched on Fujis website, but only the 07 stuff comes up.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2001/usa/html/main/frameset.htm

deathhare
12-28-06, 12:23 AM
Oh yeah, i did a little hunting and found that yeah, the 07s have Formula hubs so i think the hub issue is history.

http://www.cycle-yoshida.com/akibo/fuji/road/7track_sp.gif

mihlbach
12-28-06, 05:23 AM
Oh yeah, i did a little hunting and found that yeah, the 07s have Formula hubs so i think the hub issue is history.

http://www.cycle-yoshida.com/akibo/fuji/road/7track_sp.gif


Wow!...that improves it dramatically.

deathhare
12-28-06, 06:21 AM
Wow!...that improves it dramatically.

I wouldnt say that but it's nice to know your hub wont strip out on the first ****ing ride.

mihlbach
12-28-06, 07:30 AM
I wouldnt say that but it's nice to know your hub wont strip out on the first ****ing ride.

I'd call that a dramatic improvement.

I Like Peeing
12-28-06, 09:30 AM
Definitely a dramatic improvement. Mentioned earlier though, putting Bulletproof or FMF cranks on your bike wouldn't be the best idea...I would mount an IRO crankset for a few more bucks.

redxj
12-28-06, 09:30 AM
http://www.fujibikes.com/2001/usa/html/main/frameset.htm

Thanks, I ended up finding it. The geometry doesn't come up for the 01' which I now know mine is, but it comes up for the 02'. I found an old post on here that said they changed the geometry in 03', and the 01 and 02 models had the same specs just different paint scheme.