Southern California - How you doing OC???

Need I say OC Roadie?

Need I say OC Roadie?
Allright, I've been trying to go all day without popping any Vicodin. Just got back from Cheesecake Factory and now it's time for pain killers and couch. My back feels pretty jacked up, I may give your ortho in Newport a call next Tuesday. Not sure when I'll be riding again, hopefully soon, my wife and I have a trip scheduled to Vegas for a Stage Race in 4 weeks. Thanks for checkin' in :) ...Pat

If you don't like Vicodin, try Aleve. My dad has back problems (from a sports injury) and he swears by Aleve. Hope you get better and back on the bike soon! :o

If you don't like Vicodin, try Aleve. My dad has back problems (from a sports injury) and he swears by Aleve. Hope you get better and back on the bike soon! :o
Actually, Vicodin doesn't give me some of the problems that others complain about (stomach and headache problems). I just don't want to come out of this injury and have to check into Betty Ford Clinic for pain killer addiction ;)

Then just don't check into Betty Ford and just stay addicted...

no one likes a quitter! :lol:

get better soon!

Pat,

After my hernia surgery I took two Vicodin every four hours for six straight days and stopped cold-turkey with no problems. My family has a history of addiction so I try to be careful about those things, I'm sure you will be fine. With your type of injury, your body will heal better if you manage the pain.

Again, please let me know if you need anything.

Cheers.
-CJ

Just a word about Vicodin - it's an amazing pain killer. I've been on it now for a month due to my back problems but it really upsets my system, makes me, uh constipated so I've try to wean myself off them. What I have found is there is a right amount that doesn't cause that problem. I take just enough to edge the pain but not enough to cause the system problem. Usually 1/2 tab before bedtime and 1/2 when I wake up and then another during the day if needed. I would love to take more but since I'm onthe drug long term right now, I just can't risk it.

Anyway OC take care, allow your body to properly rest up. Make the couch your friend until you are healed. Best wishes...

It's good to be afraid of the drugs; that said, taking the proper drugs in proper doses could be very helpful in your recovery process. When I was out (out= work, play, bikes, etc.) with my back problem I was on a few drugs; ibuprofen, naproxen, a muscle relaxer and vicodin. And after my surgery, on top of the drugs I just mentioned, I was taking an opiate and valium (mommies little helper). By far the hardest one to give up was Valium, but they all to some weaning off of and being very aware of the difference between your need to take them and your wanting to take them. I have a very addictive personality, but still the only one that I found hard to go without was Valium.

So anyway, I guess I'm saying to be VERY careful.

I too have a very addictive personality, and I've been through some unhealthy ones ;) The addictive traits even show in my cycling, but at least it's healthy. I always try to be really careful when given pain killers, that I'm taking them for the pain, and not because I want them. My pain is manageable, and I'll probably just take the Vicodin before bed. Thanks for all the encouragement and advice, who's ready to take my 2 & 5 year old, so I can have some rest & recovery :p

Don't ask my daughter, she'll jump at the chance!

Just an update:
Yesterday I felt a lot better, I was took down the Xmas lights, picked up dog crap, and change crappy diapers (kind of a crap theme going on). My wife saw me fiddling with my bike and then take off around the block. I don't think she was buying the "good enough to do chores, good enough to ride" theory ;). I have an appt tomorrow with Dr Weinstein, thanks for the referall Ralph, much better than driving to the South Bay, where my Orhto is. I'm crossing my fingers that I get the all clear, the early race season is supposed to start for me in less than 2 weeks, and I'm starting to go crazy without my morning therapy rides.

For those more concerned about the new S-Works (Volt) :p :
I picked my bike up from SCC on Sunday, as far as they can tell, it has a clean bill of health, albeit a torn SLR saddle (which I've already ordered), and scratched up shifter and RD. I am going to ask the construction company to replace the frameset, bars & stem. Without doing and Xray on the frame, there's no way to tell if the tubes are damaged on the inside, the bike is too new to settle for anything less.

Hope to be on the roads with you soon...

Just an update:
Yesterday I felt a lot better, I was took down the Xmas lights, picked up dog crap, and change crappy diapers (kind of a crap theme going on). My wife saw me fiddling with my bike and then take off around the block. I don't think she was buying the "good enough to do chores, good enough to ride" theory ;). I have an appt tomorrow with Dr Weinstein, thanks for the referall Ralph, much better than driving to the South Bay, where my Orhto is. I'm crossing my fingers that I get the all clear, the early race season is supposed to start for me in less than 2 weeks, and I'm starting to go crazy without my morning therapy rides.

For those more concerned about the new S-Works (Volt) :p :
I picked my bike up from SCC on Sunday, as far as they can tell, it has a clean bill of health, albeit a torn SLR saddle (which I've already ordered), and scratched up shifter and RD. I am going to ask the construction company to replace the frameset, bars & stem. Without doing and Xray on the frame, there's no way to tell if the tubes are damaged on the inside, the bike is too new to settle for anything less.

Hope to be on the roads with you soon...

Great to hear you're getting better and even riding your bike. :rolleyes:

Weinstein is all business these days but a great doctor and way closer than the South Bay.

Have you been in contact with the construction company since we last heard from you? Good to hear you'll ask for the new frameset, you'll never be confident in your ride knowing what it's been through.

Great to hear you're getting better and even riding your bike. :rolleyes:

Weinstein is all business these days but a great doctor and way closer than the South Bay.

Have you been in contact with the construction company since we last heard from you? Good to hear you'll ask for the new frameset, you'll never be confident in your ride knowing what it's been through.
I only went around the block a couple of times to get my saddle back in the right position, and check things over.

I have a great Orthpedic Surgeon, that is also a family friend, but he specializes in leg length discrepancies, he would've just referred me to the back specialist in his firm.

The construction company called my wife twice since the accident, they seem to be truly concerned. The company is a a huge national mulit-billion dollar company. I've decided to have an attorney deal with the compensation, hopefully not in a law suit, but I want to make sure that any long term affects from my bike injury will be taken care of, if needed.

I'm curious if anyone has ridden past the area with that fence, have they done anything to secure it? It seems like a bunch of sandbags probably would be enough to hold down the feet to the fence.

Just an update:
Yesterday I felt a lot better, I was took down the Xmas lights, picked up dog crap, and change crappy diapers (kind of a crap theme going on). My wife saw me fiddling with my bike and then take off around the block. I don't think she was buying the "good enough to do chores, good enough to ride" theory ;). I have an appt tomorrow with Dr Weinstein, thanks for the referall Ralph, much better than driving to the South Bay, where my Orhto is. I'm crossing my fingers that I get the all clear, the early race season is supposed to start for me in less than 2 weeks, and I'm starting to go crazy without my morning therapy rides.

For those more concerned about the new S-Works (Volt) :p :
I picked my bike up from SCC on Sunday, as far as they can tell, it has a clean bill of health, albeit a torn SLR saddle (which I've already ordered), and scratched up shifter and RD. I am going to ask the construction company to replace the frameset, bars & stem. Without doing and Xray on the frame, there's no way to tell if the tubes are damaged on the inside, the bike is too new to settle for anything less.

Hope to be on the roads with you soon...

Glad to hear it, er, you, are doing better! :D

I wouldn't be surprised if the company just ponied up a full new bike. Then you'd be able to put some clothes back on the Cyfac.

I only went around the block a couple of times to get my saddle back in the right position, and check things over.

I have a great Orthpedic Surgeon, that is also a family friend, but he specializes in leg length discrepancies, he would've just referred me to the back specialist in his firm.

The construction company called my wife twice since the accident, they seem to be truly concerned. The company is a a huge national mulit-billion dollar company. I've decided to have an attorney deal with the compensation, hopefully not in a law suit, but I want to make sure that any long term affects from my bike injury will be taken care of, if needed.

I'm curious if anyone has ridden past the area with that fence, have they done anything to secure it? It seems like a bunch of sandbags probably would be enough to hold down the feet to the fence.

1) I know a great ortho surgeon (back is his specialty) - Milton Legome - is very renown/used as a expert by most insurance companies. Excellent reputation. Is affiliated with St. Jos in Orange. His number is 714-538-8549. He is currently treating me for my back injury. I've been going to him for years (yes for other stuff unforunately) and have been very happy with his care and advice.

2) I usually don't admit it but I'm in the business of handling insurance claims . I have 35 years worth of experience. If you need any advice - just PM me. Your attorney of course, will handle most everything.

Here's wishing you and your bike a full recovery!

Glad to hear it, er, you, are doing better! :D

I wouldn't be surprised if the company just ponied up a full new bike. Then you'd be able to put some clothes back on the Cyfac.
Or add the Tarmac SL that I was considering to the collection, or the TT bike, or the....;)

Hey Pat! I just missed meeting you tonight! That was me behind you in line at SSC! Sean and I were talking about you, and it took me about 2 seconds to figure out that it was you! Too bad you were already gone at that point.
But nice to see you either way :)

Hey Pat! I just missed meeting you tonight! That was me behind you in line at SSC! Sean and I were talking about you, and it took me about 2 seconds to figure out that it was you! Too bad you were already gone at that point.
But nice to see you either way :)
+1 :D (see PM)
I'm always on the lookout for possbile Bike Forumers in there, although I'm just speculating, since I've only met about half of you.

+1 :D (see PM)
I'm always on the lookout for possbile Bike Forumers in there, although I'm just speculating, since I've only met about half of you.

$20 says you can pick Brandy and Tiff out. :lol:

$20 says you can pick Brandy and Tiff out. :lol:

What kinda bet is that??? :p
Besides the fact that we're there three times per week, minimum, we seem to be the only two girls that frequent that place! :lol: :D

...the only two girls that frequent that place! :lol: :D

Between golf and this, I suuuure know how to pick my hobbies. :rolleyes: :lol:

Between golf and this, I suuuure know how to pick my hobbies. :rolleyes: :lol:

:roflmao: Maybe you can take up tennis... or something. :p

:roflmao: Maybe you can take up tennis... or something. :p

Tried. :(

Tried. :(

Synchronized swimming?

Synchronized swimming?


Oh with a cute little sparkly hat:D

Synchronized swimming?

Actually, only having a handful of girls around isn't THAT bad.

Synchronized swimming?


I think they offer that at th YMCA.
Hey Volt, I bet there's plenty of Single Ladies ( insert description here ) doin Syncronized
swimming there!

You never fail to make me laugh, V. :lol: :D

Oh! I know! Beach volleyball!

Oh! I know! Beach volleyball!

Yes! An option to make me look even more unattractive! :roflmao:

I think they offer that at th YMCA.
Hey Volt, I bet there's plenty of Single Ladies ( insert description here ) doin Syncronized
swimming there!

I'm sure they do it quite well too.

Yes! An option to make me look even more unattractive! :roflmao:

:eek: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/tapfoot.gif

You're kidding, right?

:eek: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/tapfoot.gif

You're kidding, right?

About me and beach volleyball?

I only went around the block a couple of times to get my saddle back in the right position, and check things over.

I have a great Orthpedic Surgeon, that is also a family friend, but he specializes in leg length discrepancies, he would've just referred me to the back specialist in his firm.

The construction company called my wife twice since the accident, they seem to be truly concerned. The company is a a huge national mulit-billion dollar company. I've decided to have an attorney deal with the compensation, hopefully not in a law suit, but I want to make sure that any long term affects from my bike injury will be taken care of, if needed.

I'm curious if anyone has ridden past the area with that fence, have they done anything to secure it? It seems like a bunch of sandbags probably would be enough to hold down the feet to the fence.

Sorry to get back on subject.

I rode up and down the SART today while my daughter played with her friend and they were in the middle of installing a new permanent fence along the stretch that bowled you over. Me thinks that looks even better for you, them knowing they needed to fix what they had to know was wrong. They had a couple of guys doing the fencing and a couple of guys just watching for traffic, I think they learned their lesson. Too bad you had to be the one to teach it to them.

Are you back from the doctor yet?

Sorry to get back on subject.

I rode up and down the SART today while my daughter played with her friend and they were in the middle of installing a new permanent fence along the stretch that bowled you over. Me thinks that looks even better for you, them knowing they needed to fix what they had to know was wrong. They had a couple of guys doing the fencing and a couple of guys just watching for traffic, I think they learned their lesson. Too bad you had to be the one to teach it to them.

Are you back from the doctor yet?
Hey Ralph,
Thanks for the update on the fence, I'm glad they're doing the right thing. I saw Dr Weinstein this morning, my appt was inconclusive, although slightly optomistic. The doctor didn't seem to think that anything was terribly wrong (my pain is not even in the same area as the vertabrae in question), he looked everything over and had me do some stretches, movements, etc., but he's setting me up for an MRI, just to be sure. I probably won't have results from that until the middle of next week. I may go on my morning ride tomorrow, maybe I can sneak a couple in, before I get told to stay off my bike ;) Stupid? probably, but I never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the block. Hopefully I'll get the all clear, and the season will start as scheduled, if not, I'm not stupid enough to risk my back and spinal column for a couple of early season races, and I'll do as told (at least for a couple of weeks). Take Care...Pat

Sorry to get back on subject.

I rode up and down the SART today while my daughter played with her friend and they were in the middle of installing a new permanent fence along the stretch that bowled you over. Me thinks that looks even better for you, them knowing they needed to fix what they had to know was wrong. They had a couple of guys doing the fencing and a couple of guys just watching for traffic, I think they learned their lesson. Too bad you had to be the one to teach it to them.

Are you back from the doctor yet?


While that is true, legally speaking, "subsequent remedial measures" are inadmissible. The theory is that if they were admissible, people would never take any measures to fix a dangerous condition if it was an admission of guilt.

As GI Joe would say--"and know you know and knowing is half the battle."

Update:
I had my appt with the ortho this afternoon to review my MRI. Sh1tty news, my L1 vertabrae is indeed fractured :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: I was told no riding whatsoever (is that one word?) for at least two weeks (I think he meant longer, but I have my own interpretation), and no racing or all out efforts for 2-3 months :( Under normal circumstances, I'm not too good about following doctors orders, but this is my spine we're talking about, so I guess I'll listen. I was told that it must have been a major fall to cause that kind of damage, and to expect it to hurt for a year. Hopefully I'll stay sane, riding is my daily mental therapy, and I was really excited about the early season, I know the same races will be around next year, but it still sucks. At least I should be healthy and back in good shape for our BA Preview ride, I'm really looking forward to it:D

Hang in there Pat! You'll be back in action in no time

Dear OC Roadie:

Please don't be discouraged. You will ride again, and while the waiting will seem like a gazillion millenniae, after you're back on your bike you'll realize it was a lot sooner than you thought it would be (cyclists heal FAST). There will always be another ride, another race, and you're friends are all pulling for you. Be patient and let your body heal.

Interesting coincidence -- just last Saturday at the track, there was a fellow up from San Diego whom I hadn't seen in months -- because he'd fractured his neck on a downhill road ride. And he was fine. He said he was messed up pretty bad (I can't even begin to remember the list of injuries), but it all healed up, and he has no residual disability whatsoever. So, miracles CAN happen.

The hard part is taking care of yourself INSIDE -- the soul and spirit. Apply that same disciplined mindset that you use for your cycling towards the task of healing and recovering.

And you know what really helps -- writing about it. We're here, and we will listen, and we all care.

Renee

Thanks guys (and girls). Maybe I need to find something else in addition to cycling. Besides working and hanging out with my family, I pretty much just ride a bike, or talk about them on here :) , at least I'd have something to do during my downtime.

Golf?

Well, I always say, "Tango Saves!"

Maybe I need to find something else in addition to cycling.
How ironic, my injury brought me to cycling. :)



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Golf?
I was leaning towards the synchronized swimming ;)

I was leaning towards the synchronized swimming ;)

Wow Pat, that really sucks! From the sound of your report, there will not be any surgery, just rest and healing? I think you're right to heed the advice this time, you may feel this injury off and on for the rest of your life, no need to make it even worse.

Wow Pat, that really sucks! From the sound of your report, there will not be any surgery, just rest and healing? I think you're right to heed the advice this time, you may feel this injury off and on for the rest of your life, no need to make it even worse.
Correct, I am thankful that it's not worse, and surgery won't be required. I hate to think of the shape I'm going to be in when I reach my "senior" years. Hopefully I won't be crippled from 20 years of high impact skateboarding and snowboarding followed by a bunch of bike crashes :eek:

Correct, I am thankful that it's not worse, and surgery won't be required. I hate to think of the shape I'm going to be in when I reach my "senior" years. Hopefully I won't be crippled from 20 years of high impact skateboarding and snowboarding followed by a bunch of bike crashes :eek:

Don't worry OC, you'll be just fine if you stick with a good Doc and his program...I know it's frustrating, but to give you some encouragement, my Wife had back surgery on Oct 26th 06, I'm not saying you need surgery, don't get me wrong...but her back is absolutely fine now, although she's been warned about too much BLT (Bending, Lifting and twisting).....although she did have a huge setback after tripping over a rug 3 weeks after the surgery....so you need to be carefull and behave yourself...the time you spend in recovery, taking it easy and following Docs orders will pay premiums later on....

Good luck, I know it must really suck!!....Peter

Hopefully I won't be crippled from 20 years of high impact skateboarding and snowboarding followed by a bunch of bike crashes :eek:

Hey, mine was motocross, skiing, hockey and 17 years of cutting concrete, and just look at me now...oh well, maybe I'm not such a great example.