Foo - Gaaah! Pwned Internets!

I can't believe that this whole Dead Asian Internet thing isn't massive news worldwide. There must be millions of dollars going down the drain every day. At my own company, we haven't been able to get to our email since Wednesday. Out of desperation on Friday afternoon, I started making paper airplanes and throwing them out my window on the 29th floor. I'm just barely managing to get to BF through a European proxy server. What are you all hearing about this?

Also, I'm bitter because Chinese holiday regulations say that we have to go to work on the Saturday and Sunday before New Year's :(. Fortunately my company gave me Christmas and Boxing Day off, but other people have to work straight through from Monday to Sunday.

I knew something was up when one of our workers who was visiting shanghai took over an hour to logon to a server remotely over here.

Is there any links you can give us for news on this? Internet related news intrigues me.

Wow, hadn't heard about that, but I've had my head deep in probate crap, and missed the news for the last few days. Hit the Foo Party, friend. The drinks are flowing freely. :D

I'm gonna look this up.... <shuffling off to the Internet>

Uh, I'm very ignorant: what is "Pwned"? And other similar terms? I've really been in a cave these past few years, and the world has continued without me. I'm honestly clueless. Thanks!

pwned is net-speak for "owned" which means "when someone or something has been defeated in a severe or embarassing manner"

a pic to describe pwnage

http://gallery.elvado.de/albums/structure/misc%20ok/owned/PWNED.jpg

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwned

To ramify your understanding:
http://neoliquid.com/pwn3d.gif

a pic to describe pwnage

http://gallery.elvado.de/albums/structure/misc%20ok/owned/PWNED.jpg
I see, like from chess. "Pawned" where the pawn is just a piece, not material.

Ouch! That looks borderline sadistic. :rolleyes:

To ramify your understanding:
http://neoliquid.com/pwn3d.gif
Gotcha! Ramification understood. :lol:

I did that once, by the way, DOMA, with my husband's "Groom & Clean." Soooooo not good. <bleah> :eek: TMI? Nah. :p

Thanks for the urban dictionary, BTW.

yep, the plunger pic also falls under internet rule 36. And I guess it also falls under Rule 34 if you saw the pic that came from.

....yes I spend way too much time online.

:lol:

Seriously, to gbcb: guess you know that CNN just said that Sadaam has been executed?

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it. Always.
Rule 36: whatever it is, it's someone's fetish. No Exceptions.

So, you can be assured that there are people that are excited and aroused by the idea of Wilford Brimley doing the rumpshaker, while wearing a giant pink teddy bear outift and being on fire. The internet is weird....that's it.

A couple of links here. I have not seen any of the "improvement" that some of these articles refer to. If anything, my connection at work is even slower today. Hooray for decent proxy servers!

http://news.com.com/Asia+scrambles+to+fix+quake+damage+to+data+cables/2100-1037_3-6146387.html
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-12/30/content_771294.htm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ak.lqfpJz82I&refer=home

And a whole bunch more here: http://news.google.com/?ncl=1112267555&hl=en

Oy, vey!

a pic to describe pwnage

http://gallery.elvado.de/albums/structure/misc%20ok/owned/PWNED.jpg
that's just the headshot... Have you seen the WHOLE photo?!?!? :eek:

Checking your links. What time do you have, so I can enter it onto my spreadsheet, and know where Foo friends are, and when?

:lol:

Seriously, to gbcb: guess you know that CNN just said that Sadaam has been executed?


Nope, that's the first I've heard of it!
Tough times for the dictators these days... Saddam, Turkmenbashi, Pinochet -- who's next?

Shrub? :D

It's 11:22 am... do you know where your Foo friends are?

that's just the headshot... Have you seen the WHOLE photo?!?!? :eek:


Yep! I just find mosaic blur to be a waste of good photographic material. I have yet to see the whole set htough....the goons at theforum haven't been doing their job at giving us all marginally offensive material to look at lately.

It's 11:22 am... do you know where your Foo friends are?

Right here!

Busy, busy, busy....someone's got to take up the slack now that J.B.'s gone!:D

To answer the question about what "Dead Asian Internet" is referring towards...

It's due to a massive amount of undersea fibre outages caused by the recent earthquake that occurred off the southern coast of Taiwan about three days ago.

Here's a list of some of the effected submarine cable operators/networks...

SMW3 (Sea-me-we 3)
FNAL and FEA (FLAG North Asia Loop)
RNAL = Reach North Asia Loop
APCN2 (Asia Pacific Network 2)
C2C - Singtel's coast to coast
EAC = East Asia Crossing (EAC)

They're talking 3-4 weeks of time-to-repair. The repair fleet has been dispatched but companies like Tyco Submarine Systems is swamped and simply don't have enough vessels to deal with such a large scale outtage.

Curiously enough, us folks in the Western Washington/Puget Sound area had to deal with a similar mass-disruption of our power infrastructure due to a nasty windstorm about two weeks ago. Services were fully restored just in time for Christmas.

It's 11:22 am... do you know where your Foo friends are?
So, Shanghai is 13 hours ahead of EST. Thanks! <sipping her late-night Jack Daniels> :rolleyes:

that's just the headshot... Have you seen the WHOLE photo?!?!? :eek:

Headshot?

Where??(!)?

http://www.geocities.com/ineedanewbike/headshot.JPG

I can't get on the Al Arabiya or Al Iraqiya websites...:(

:lol:

Seriously, to gbcb: guess you know that CNN just said that Sadaam has been executed?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6310746,00.html

Saddam Hussein will be executed before 6am Saturday Baghdad time (3am GMT), a senior Iraqi government official has said.

The time was agreed upon during a meeting between US and Iraqi officials, said the official, who declined to be named because he was not authorised to speak to the media.

http://www.geocities.com/ineedanewbike/headshot.JPG

Now that's a headshot.

It's old school/retro/vintage/classic, but it's a headshot. :D

Another reason to enjoy New Year's Eve. :D

So, Shanghai is 13 hours ahead of EST. Thanks! <sipping her late-night Jack Daniels> :rolleyes:

Actually, all of China is 13 hours ahead --- even though it actually covers several time zones, but the Chinese government has decided everyone operates on Beijing time --- until summer, when you go all daylight savings on us. Then it's 12 hours.

To answer the question about what "Dead Asian Internet" is referring towards...

It's due to a massive amount of undersea fibre outages caused by the recent earthquake that occurred off the southern coast of Taiwan about three days ago.

Here's a list of some of the effected submarine cable operators/networks...

SMW3 (Sea-me-we 3)
FNAL and FEA (FLAG North Asia Loop)
RNAL = Reach North Asia Loop
APCN2 (Asia Pacific Network 2)
C2C - Singtel's coast to coast
EAC = East Asia Crossing (EAC)

They're talking 3-4 weeks of time-to-repair. The repair fleet has been dispatched but companies like Tyco Submarine Systems is swamped and simply don't have enough vessels to deal with such a large scale outtage.

Curiously enough, us folks in the Western Washington/Puget Sound area had to deal with a similar mass-disruption of our power infrastructure due to a nasty windstorm about two weeks ago. Services were fully restored just in time for Christmas.
That explains my brothers internet issues in the Philippines as well then!

Actually, all of China is 13 hours ahead --- even though it actually covers several time zones, but the Chinese government has decided everyone operates on Beijing time --- until summer, when you go all daylight savings on us. Then it's 12 hours.
Wasn't Indiana a state that refused to do DST until recently? <giggling, as Tom watches>

Wasn't Indiana a state that refused to do DST until recently? <giggling, as Tom watches>
Yep! You are absolutely right.....on both counts:D

I like not having DST....to me DST is just another way to f with a mass amount of people twice a year.

I see, like from chess. "Pawned" where the pawn is just a piece, not material.

Ouch! That looks borderline sadistic. :rolleyes:

No, more like someone made a typo, the O and P being right next to each other and the netizens, thinking they were cool, glommed onto it and somehow it's now become the thing to use "pwned" instead of "owned" for the definitions given above.

No, more like someone made a typo, the O and P being right next to each other and the netizens, thinking they were cool, glommed onto it and somehow it's now become the thing to use "pwned" instead of "owned" for the definitions given above.
Yeah, that makes sense.

I like not having DST....to me DST is just another way to f with a mass amount of people twice a year.

DST played a roll in screwing my sense of reality up bigtime once*. I was travelling back to the US from Adelaide, Australia during the roll-forward. Note that Adelaide is in one of the those half-hour offset timezones. Also note that I was crossing the international dateline going west. Also note that the day was the first of April... :D You figure out the math.

I also remember my PalmPilot throwing a coniption because my itinerary had me travelling back in time.


* This is not to say that my sense of reality doesn't get screwed up often nor does it suggest that DST switchovers are the only way to do it.

To answer the question about what "Dead Asian Internet" is referring towards...

It's due to a massive amount of undersea fibre outages caused by the recent earthquake that occurred off the southern coast of Taiwan about three days ago.

Here's a list of some of the effected submarine cable operators/networks...

SMW3 (Sea-me-we 3)
FNAL and FEA (FLAG North Asia Loop)
RNAL = Reach North Asia Loop
APCN2 (Asia Pacific Network 2)
C2C - Singtel's coast to coast
EAC = East Asia Crossing (EAC)

They're talking 3-4 weeks of time-to-repair. The repair fleet has been dispatched but companies like Tyco Submarine Systems is swamped and simply don't have enough vessels to deal with such a large scale outtage.

Curiously enough, us folks in the Western Washington/Puget Sound area had to deal with a similar mass-disruption of our power infrastructure due to a nasty windstorm about two weeks ago. Services were fully restored just in time for Christmas.
That's like every cable system in Asia. Normally, if a cable system goes down, the traffic gets dumped to the other cable systems through mutual agreements. However, since all these cable systems follow the same routes and were affected by the same earthquake, there aren't enough backup cable systems to handle the overflow. Also, not all modern SDH cable systems have route diversity because building a diversely routed ring would be prohibitively expensive. BTW, this isn't the first time SMW3 and FEA were affected by an underwater earthquake.

That's like every cable system in Asia. Normally, if a cable system goes down, the traffic gets dumped to the other cable systems through mutual agreements. However, since all these cable systems follow the same routes and were affected by the same earthquake, there aren't enough backup cable systems to handle the overflow.
Yep. Right now, a lot of traffic is being rerouted over slow satelite links. Areas at the fringe of the breaks can protect to other edge areas by routing the other direction on the protect paths. Midspan and same-vector bypass protect paths are of course hosed.



Also, not all modern SDH cable systems have route diversity because building a diversely routed ring would be prohibitively expensive.
Yeah. Moreso true for submarine systems. I also think it really depends on who did the buildout and the funding they had behind them... as well as the perceived importance of the service. For instance, Global Crossing which threw in a lot of money for their build has three major routes across the Atlantic and three across the Pacific. In each case, the northern and southern routes share a midspan route for protect.

Heh, satellite links are slow, super expensive and have huge delays. And the older copper cable systems don't have much capacity and are still being used for voice traffic. IIRC, AT&T sold off their submarine cable laying fleet so Tyco's fleet will be stretched thin over the next couple months. But those cable guys will be making tons of money. This is probably the greatest thing to happen to them since most of the time the fleet just sits in port waiting for sharks to chew through the cable sheathes.

Heh, satellite links are slow, super expensive and have huge delays. And the older copper cable systems don't have much capacity and are still being used for voice traffic.

Exactly... hence the complaint by the OP.



IIRC, AT&T sold off their submarine cable laying fleet so Tyco's fleet will be stretched thin over the next couple months. But those cable guys will be making tons of money. This is probably the greatest thing to happen to them since most of the time the fleet just sits in port waiting for sharks to chew through the cable sheathes.

Yeah. I know that Global Marine is also a tad busy right now. ;)

That explains my brothers internet issues in the Philippines as well then!

I haven't noticed any difference with my Internet to the Philippines. But then again I only spend around 2 to 3 hours a day sending packets to and fro.

I will keep my fingers crossed.

I heard about the problems on NPR. I hope they're resolved soon!

I haven't noticed any difference with my Internet to the Philippines. But then again I only spend around 2 to 3 hours a day sending packets to and fro.

I will keep my fingers crossed.

After reading this, I logged onto a Yahoo account over in the Philippines and it was slow. About like using dialup.

Hopefully they will get ir fixed soon.

Things are much improved today. Don't need a proxy for BF anymore!