"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Unbreakable sports records

Fox has a list of most unbreakable sports records here:

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6327596

Of course none are cycling records. Also they have a few that are not even the most unbreakable for the individual they list. At #5 is Wilt Chamberlains 100 point game. Some day this will fall. Trends change and eventually high scoring games will return and some game will go into 6 or 7 overtimes. May take a long long time. On the other hand Wilts average minutes per game will not fall at 51 or 52 minutes a game (Yea I know regulation is 48 minutes). For an entire season Wilt played every minute of every game, including all overtime.

At # 2 is Jerry rice for total receiving yardage. This may never fall. Or it might. The trend is more regular season games. Add 2 more per year (with 2 less preseason games) and perhaps someone will last long enough to pass this record. But Rice's recort for most consecutive games with a catch is a different story. It is more games than any other wide receiver has in his career.

But the reason for starting this thread is to pose the question:

What cycling records are unbreakable? Feel free to phrase the record in the terms that make it hardest to break.

7 tdf's in a row by Lance!

7 tdf's in a row by Lance!

Hardly in the unbreakable category. Mig had 5 in a row while riding other major tours. If someone aims on the TDF 7 is hardly unreachable. Of course it is safe for 7 years at least.

Eddy had 10 major tours in a row (Eg 10 out of 10 entered). That has the kind of thing that touches on unreachable as only one other rider has 10 tours total.

Anyone else have any ideas? Non-Eddy records prefered as only Eddy gets old. I can think of at least one For Coppi and One for Binda that seem out of reach. Perhaps one for Freddy Maertens also.

Oh and phrased correctly both Poulidor and Gino Bartoli have a couple. Poulidor for 7 podiums without a win (actually without ever being in Yellow) and Bartoli for 'back to back' TDF wins 10 years apart.

What about Eric Heiden's 5 individual gold medals?

What about Eric Heiden's 5 individual gold medals?

Not exactly a cycling record as they were in speed skating though he later became a cyclist. I would also argue that it is not unbreakable as I recall in the last two olympic games there have been at least 2 americans with a shot, Apollo Anton Ohno in short track speed skating and Michael Phelps in swimming though one or both of those may be entirely wrong something in my memory is telling me they had a shot.

Track:
200m-19.32 Micheal Johnson
800m-1:41.11 Wilson Kipketer

W800m-1:53.28 Jarmila Kratochvílová. No one has come within 3 seconds of this in the last ~10 years, to my knowledge. She was chemically a man. This will never be broken by a PED-free woman.


http://www.cojeco.cz/attach/photos/lide/Kratochvilova_48974/Jarmila-Kratochvilova-1max.jpg

http://www.ndr.de/paris2003/images/portrait/4176.jpg

Check out that Adam's apple. Yeah...

Poulidor. Most second place finishes in the TDF without ever wearing the Yellow jersey.

Not exactly a cycling record as they were in speed skating though he later became a cyclist. I would also argue that it is not unbreakable as I recall in the last two olympic games there have been at least 2 americans with a shot, Apollo Anton Ohno in short track speed skating and Michael Phelps in swimming though one or both of those may be entirely wrong something in my memory is telling me they had a shot.

Regarding Heiden's 5 golds at Lake Placid, he SWEPT all the men's speed skating events. With increased specializations at different distances, this one is pretty secure for the time being. It would be like one skier winning the Downhill, Super G, Giant Slalom, and the Slalom, plus the Alpine combined, all in one Olympics.

Other athletes may win more medals, but sweeping an entire sport is pretty impressive. I think the closest to his feat was Mark Spitz's 7 golds in Munich (while sporting long hair and a porno-stache, none-the-less!)

Regarding Heiden's 5 golds at Lake Placid, he SWEPT all the men's speed skating events. With increased specializations at different distances, this one is pretty secure for the time being. It would be like one skier winning the Downhill, Super G, Giant Slalom, and the Slalom, plus the Alpine combined, all in one Olympics.

Other athletes may win more medals, but sweeping an entire sport is pretty impressive. I think the closest to his feat was Mark Spitz's 7 golds in Munich (while sporting long hair and a porno-stache, none-the-less!)

Depending n how one phrases it Spitz may be safe. His 7 included 3 relays. Much more rare for one country to win all 3.

Back to cycling. Coppi swept all major individual competitions in the TDF and Giro in one year (GC and KOM, no points existed). Only thing close since is Merckx taking the GC and Points in the Giro and Vuelta in 1973. I'm sure Coppi picked up more awards in those two, but not sure of more 'sweeps' that year. (Other awards being team and most aggressive).

Regarding Heiden's 5 golds at Lake Placid, he SWEPT all the men's speed skating events. With increased specializations at different distances, this one is pretty secure for the time being.

By that logic then yes, especially considering they have added quite a few speed skating races since then, it also enhanced by the fact that in many olympic sprts such a sweep is not possible ie a runner winning the 100, 200, 400, 800, 1500, 3000, 5000, 10,000, and marathon. However I was adressing the five individual gold's in one games.

LTs Records Set in 2006

Marita Koch's 400m record and Flo-jo's 100m record. Both records have stood for ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/400_metres#Top_Ten_All-time_athletes_-_400_meters_-_women

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres#Top_ten_all-time_athletes_.E2.80.94_women

Doped to the friggin eyeballs.

i guess they don't think it's unbreakable: Ted williams .400 season... a couple have come close though. It only seems to happen once every few years... the last was Garciaparra.

The thing is some of the records mentioned, like Flojo, haven't stood for that long. We're talking about some records that have stood for decades, like Alfredo Binda's stage wins until cipo broke it. That was like 70+ years...

Marita Koch's 400m record and Flo-jo's 100m record. Both records have stood for ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/400_metres#Top_Ten_All-time_athletes_-_400_meters_-_women

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres#Top_ten_all-time_athletes_.E2.80.94_women

Doped to the friggin eyeballs.

The women's 1500m record is pretty suspect too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1500_metres#Top_ten_All_time_athletes_on_the_1500_metres_-_women

It was rumored that not only did they not conduct drug tests, but that the track was about 10m short at the Chinese national meet. Reason? You can't find pictures of the track, or the meet, anywhere.

Bob Knight's 880 wins (and counting)

Regarding Heiden's 5 golds at Lake Placid, he SWEPT all the men's speed skating events. With increased specializations at different distances, this one is pretty secure for the time being. It would be like one skier winning the Downhill, Super G, Giant Slalom, and the Slalom, plus the Alpine combined, all in one Olympics.

Other athletes may win more medals, but sweeping an entire sport is pretty impressive. I think the closest to his feat was Mark Spitz's 7 golds in Munich (while sporting long hair and a porno-stache, none-the-less!)

I'd say Phelps has or at least had a shot at it last summer games, 7 Medals, 5 Gold 2 Bronze as I recall.

Hardly in the unbreakable category. Mig had 5 in a row while riding other major tours. If someone aims on the TDF 7 is hardly unreachable. Of course it is safe for 7 years at least.

Eddy had 10 major tours in a row (Eg 10 out of 10 entered). That has the kind of thing that touches on unreachable as only one other rider has 10 tours total.

Anyone else have any ideas? Non-Eddy records prefered as only Eddy gets old. I can think of at least one For Coppi and One for Binda that seem out of reach. Perhaps one for Freddy Maertens also.


Citing Merckx is pretty silly. That's like saying 'all we need for somebody to hit .400 is another guy like Ted Williams'. You mean the (now deceased) guy that hung up his spikes 50 years ago? An athlete you may see once in a CENTURY? Like Merckx? How many Merckx's have we ever seen? Oh right one guy. And nobody else ever came close.

Again, there's no such thing as 'unbreakable'. But if any record will stand for many decades, it's the 7 straight TDF wins. Doping, no doping, whatever.

Bugger-all to do with cycling ... but Lara's 400 not out in the West Indies vs. England test match at St. Johns may well stand for decades. Unless you have played cricket at a decent level (county cricket at a minimum) it's almost hopeless to try and explain how unbelievable this kind of score is.

Edwin Moses winning 107 consecutive finals.

Jahangir Khan winning 555 matches ina row ... 5 years of total domination in the sport of squash.

All far more impressive that that crap put out by Faux.

Sponge Bob eating 87 consecutive Crabby Patties. Untouchable.

Bradmans batting average of 99.94 in cricket.

Even with wickets being designed and curated to suit batsman these days no one has an average that is even close.

Sponge Bob eating 87 consecutive Crabby Patties. Untouchable.

Sponge Bob wins.

Sponge Bob wins.

And Mr. Crabs had 88 (over) on the over/under that day. It friggin KILLED him. He never forgave Sponge Bob.

Bradmans batting average of 99.94 in cricket.

Even with wickets being designed and curated to suit batsman these days no one has an average that is even close.

sorry, but we're talking about sports. as robin williams so aptly put it "cricket is baseball on valium" :D

Cricket. Too subtle for seppos with their short attention spans.:p

i guess they don't think it's unbreakable: Ted williams .400 season... a couple have come close though. It only seems to happen once every few years... the last was Garciaparra.Well, that isn't actually a record, the record being Hugh Duffy's .440 in 1894. That year, 1894, was one of those years in which everybody hit for average--the league BA was .309, so I'm not suggesting that Duffy's achievement exceeds Williams' (when the league BA was .266), just that the conditions were as favorable for high BAs as could be. The year Garciaparra hit .372 the league BA was .276. We can have another .400 hitter, we just need a season in which a league averages .300 or better.

Edited to add, well, that and a batter having a great year for BA.

The women's 1500m record is pretty suspect too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1500_metres#Top_ten_All_time_athletes_on_the_1500_metres_-_women

It was rumored that not only did they not conduct drug tests, but that the track was about 10m short at the Chinese national meet. Reason? You can't find pictures of the track, or the meet, anywhere.

lol. Are you insinuating that the Chinese CHEAT?

I used to roll around on the floor laughing when the Chinese womens swim team was shown on the telly. Bloody frightening.

I used to roll around on the floor laughing when the Chinese womens swim team was shown on the telly. Bloody frightening.


Shoulders like Lote Tuquiri...

Ok. The record to top them all.

Tasmanian cricket legend David Boon drank 52 cans of VB beer between Sydney and London.

http://www.air-cast.com/client-websites/VBBoony/images/boonie_page_v2_02.jpg Boonie is an Aussie hero.

http://www.thefanatics.com/contentpics/330.jpg

What an athlete.;)

Fantastic tasche as well.

Saw the "Keg on Legs" wandering around in the Members at the G on Boxing Day. Even MCC members give a cheer when Boony walks past :D

I dont know about anyone else but this is UNREAL!!!!! A CYCLING RECORD THAT I CANNOT COMPREHEND


http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/?id=2006/woodland_greaves

Bob Knight's 880 wins (and counting)

Actually if trends continue this may well fall. Compare to Wooden, 20-22 game season and only 4 possible tournament games. No surprise if 20 years from now the season is 6-10 games longer than it is now (counting invitationals) and that someone eventually breaks this one.

i guess they don't think it's unbreakable: Ted williams .400 season... a couple have come close though. It only seems to happen once every few years... the last was Garciaparra.

The thing is some of the records mentioned, like Flojo, haven't stood for that long. We're talking about some records that have stood for decades, like Alfredo Binda's stage wins until cipo broke it. That was like 70+ years...

Finally back to cycling! BUT Cipo only broke one of Bindas stage records. His 12 stage wins in a single Giro looks good for 70 more years or more.

I dont know about anyone else but this is UNREAL!!!!! A CYCLING RECORD THAT I CANNOT COMPREHEND
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/?id=2006/woodland_greaves
:eek: :eek: How can anyone ride over 80,000 miles in one year? That is a double century plus every stinking day!!!!:eek: :eek:
Even the official record of 75000+ would require a double century every day.

Marciano's 49-0 record
Schumacher's 7 championships
Jerry Rice's receiving yards
Ripkens 2632 consecutive games
Favre's 230+ game streak

I'd go with this one over any listed so far:

At the Big Ten meet in Ann Arbor on May 25, 1935, Jesse set three world records and tied a fourth, all in a span of about 45 minutes.

EDIT:

Some sources count this as 5 broken as his times in the 220 yeard and 220 hurdles broke the records for the equalivent 200 meter events (those events are about 1 meter shorter).

Favre's 230+ game streak


Be careful, I believe they can legally torture you for saying his name. As an expatriated Cheesehead living south of the border, life can be dangerous. :D

You know, you can tell it's mid-winter from the threads like this one : ).

You know, you can tell it's mid-winter from the threads like this one : ).


You're joking aren't ya?? you could fry an egg on my car today!!

:D

You're joking aren't ya?? you could fry an egg on my car today!!

:D

Your toilets swirl the wrong way too.

Your toilets swirl the wrong way too.

lol...

urban myth, tho.


But we do have a public holiday for a horse race, eat kangaroos and play cricket better than anyone :D

:eek: :eek: How can anyone ride over 80,000 miles in one year? That is a double century plus every stinking day!!!!:eek: :eek:
Even the official record of 75000+ would require a double century every day.

I rode 13,715 miles in 2006, and that was a LOT of riding, an AVERAGE of 37.57 miles every single day over a 365 day span. Riding 75K miles on a bicycle (more than 5 TIMES my total, by far a lifetime high for me) is utterly around the bend, mind blowing, incomprehensible to me. At 17mph (a somewhat optimistic and rather brisk average speed for a fit adult male cyclist riding that volume) you would have to spend 11-12 HOURS PER DAY on the bike FOR 365 DAYS STRAIGHT to eclipse that mark.

I'd say that 75,000 mark is rather secure. Anybody feel like 'going for it' in 2007? Hurry. 3 days are gone already. By the way, I move that if you break that record, we forgoe all drug testing. EPO, cocaine, amphetamines - I'd say whatever you need would be fine.

Oh yeah, I'd say the same thing to anyone who wants to win seven Tour de France races. Whatever works. Let us know if you win them, and we'll start the drug inquisition afterwards. That's how they did it with Lance.

Your toilets swirl the wrong way too.yes, it's the Great Cornholio effect

Ok. The record to top them all.

Tasmanian cricket legend David Boon drank 52 cans of VB beer between Sydney and London.
.I think Val Perovic has a similar record: something like 37 cans in 2 or 3 hrs

I think Val Perovic has a similar record: something like 37 cans in 2 or 3 hrs

I once did 10 pints of Theakston's Old Peculiar in 3 hours at uni after playing the local Army base rugby club. The 10 pints did little to dull the pain. Nothing close to 37 tins of fizz I'll admit ...

I once did 10 pints of Theakston's Old Peculiar in 3 hours at uni after playing the local Army base rugby club. The 10 pints did little to dull the pain. Nothing close to 37 tins of fizz I'll admit ...


Brilliant!

I think Val Perovic has a similar record: something like 37 cans in 2 or 3 hrs

Good pick up Ozman. I was gonna mention that. There's a plaque on the wall at the 'Duke of Wellington' apparently.:D

lol...

... and play cricket better than anyone :D

The last Ashes series was painful. You buggers aren't human. There's only 20 million or so of you for staters, naff-all actually play cricket or Union for that matter and yet look at the results. WTF are you people putting in the water over there?! My uncle went over 35 years ago ... often wonder why my father didn't follow.

On a completely tangental note ... seeing Dennis Lillie in real life was a thing of grace. Nobody will ever have an action like that ever again. It was so sublime you never actually knew just how lethally fast the guy really was.