Foo - Love

"Falling in love doesn't begin with falling in love with others. It begins with falling in love with ourselves. Loving ourselves is healthy and as God intended. Learn to deeply and fully cherish your heart, your soul, and your body and only then will you understand what it is to truly love another"

Discuss.

I whole heartedly agree. :) You cannot give love unless you truly love yourself completely.

Now LOVING or expressing love to someone else is a different story. I'm retired from that, thankyouverymuch. :D

That's actually very profound. I remember something very similar to that in a book about 30 years ago.

Loving ourselves is healthy and as God intended.

That sounds dirty...but I'd have to agree. ;)

What's wrong with you Jon? This is a thread I would have started a while back before I got smart. You turnin' all Serenity on us or something???

This thread made my palms hairy just reading it.

I think this is very true. Personally reading this I thought to myself, maybe I don't love anyone. I don't know if I can honestly say I truly love myself, in every way. There are lots of things about me I'd like to change. One thing is for sure, if I say I love someone, I THINK I mean it. It's a very special thing, love. Hopefully I find that one and only, someday. *sigh*

Shlt, I sound like a girl. I'm gunna go roll around in the dirt and buy some tools.

What's wrong with you Jon? This is a thread I would have started a while back before I got smart. You turnin' all Serenity on us or something???
Psssht. I'm the little brother remember. I haven't had my turn getting smart. ;)

Shlt, I sound like a girl. I'm gunna go roll around in the dirt...

Then you'll just be a dirty girl.

Then you'll just be a dirty girl.

Mmmmmm, me likey dirty girlies. :p But not Pheard, he's a little too girly for me!

just kidding

he's from california...what can you expect?

I think this is very true. Personally reading this I thought to myself, maybe I don't love anyone. I don't know if I can honestly say I truly love myself, in every way. There are lots of things about me I'd like to change. One thing is for sure, if I say I love someone, I THINK I mean it. It's a very special thing, love. Hopefully I find that one and only, someday. *sigh*

Shlt, I sound like a girl. I'm gunna go roll around in the dirt and buy some tools.


Loving yourself means accepting yourself as God intended you to be. As long as you work hard, be honest, are true to yourself and do not hurt others then you are living Gods way.

Oh crap. Now I sound all gooey myself. I'm outta here.

Now LOVING or expressing love to someone else is a different story. I'm retired from that, thankyouverymuch. :D
Ohbequiet. You love me. A little? :cry:

Discuss.


Loving ourselves is healthy and as God intended.

no such thing as god. end discussion.

Ohbequiet. You love me. A little? :cry:

Nope. Ask Mich about that word and me. He knows. He is staying FARRRRRRRRRRRR away.

no such thing as god. end discussion.


Not in my eyes.

Yeah the first part is accepting and loving yourself (not humping yourself, get yer minds outta thatthardurn gutter).

After all, if you feel you are inadequate, you will always be holding back in your feelings, and in extreme cases can twist how love is being expressed....love should be pure, not tainted with jealousy or other things spouting from a sense of inadequacy.

Just remember, even though we may not have someone else's body, looks, or brains, we might have something else they don't...learn to play the cards you are dealt. Life has a way of letting people be themselves, if we let ourselves be ourselves that is. There is plenty of room for oddballs of all sorts out there. So just kick back, and relax in your unique sexahness.

OK, now I feel like some kind of Dr. Phil wannabe.....ugh....

Nope. Ask Mich about that word and me. He knows. He is staying FARRRRRRRRRRRR away.
Fine.

I like you.

Here is the romantic notion of love. To know what love is and to understand love as it is, you have to know death. You have to have been dead to know what love is. Through death you understand peace. Through peace, you know love.


"Falling in love doesn't begin with falling in love with others. It begins with falling in love with ourselves. Loving ourselves is healthy and as God intended. Learn to deeply and fully cherish your heart, your soul, and your body and only then will you understand what it is to truly love another"

Discuss.

Do I have to hate myself before I can hate you?

Do I have to hate myself before I can hate you?

No, you just have to hate quail.

Does it take away from the profoundness of the quote if I told you I got it off a shower gel bottle?

I differ in that you don't need to die to understand peace. The biggest turning point in my life was when I was on death's edge from a serious e.coli incident....I pretty much gave up on trying to live, and just sat back and recalled everything good that's happened to me....then somewhere out of nowhere a massive survival instainct kicked in, and somehow I managed to get enough of a voice (I was so dehydrated that my body wasn't able to even process water, and I was unable to speak since the day before) to make a last ditch phone call to get a ride to the ER.

Part of that was my stubbornness to get past it....I did get the infection out of my system for the most part, but it was the dehydration that I suffered from as a side effect that was the real threat. Took approx 2 liters of saline into the bloodstream to get me stabilized....doctors were amazed I was even able to stand up, let alone walk.

But....even that didn't teach me about love. All that did was teach me that there are things in life far worse than not being able to pay a bill, or not having that shiny new trinket. Life is the ultimate gift, and we should do all we can to live it as well as we can, anything else is throwing away something that nobody can replace.

What helps best to understand love is not experienceing your death, but understanding the concept of life and death....it doesn't take a near-death experience to figure that one out....just a pet going away....at that point in a child's life, a switch turns on. It's at that point they realize that they did love.

Happiness and sadness are conjoined twins of sorts, you need to experience both depths to understand them fully.

Here is the romantic notion of love. To know what love is and to understand love as it is, you have to know death. You have to have been dead to know what love is. Through death you understand peace. Through peace, you know love.
I've known death. I've felt dead. I'm beginning to understand peace of heart. Does this mean I will know love again?

Does it take away from the profoundness of the quote if I told you I got it off a shower gel bottle?

No

I've known death. I've felt dead. I'm beginning to understand peace of heart. Does this mean I will know love again?

Yes. I know you will. Trust me, sometimes I "know" things.

You would. Is there. If you have some bad personal relationship issues in the past, that love may not be able to surface. I often dream about love after a heavy training week or training month. The feeling of love would just come out from nowhere and it would stay with me for weeks or months.


I've known death. I've felt dead. I'm beginning to understand peace of heart. Does this mean I will know love again?

That sounds dirty...but I'd have to agree. ;)
How'd I miss this.

As I typed out that line, I was waiting for you to comment on it. I knew YOU would.

Kids these days can't take nothin' serious. ;)

You would. Is there. If you have some bad personal relationship issues in the past, that love may not be able to surface. I often dream about love after a heavy training week or training month. The feeling of love would just come out from nowhere and it would stay with me for weeks or months.


I used to dream too.

I refuse to let it take over me anymore. :D

I think it will make it worst to fight it. You should try to understand it. If you are repeatedly dreaming about some bad childhood experiences, you have some personal issues you need to sort it out. For me, I treated the dreams as a sign telling me I have fully recovered from my training stress/load. :D


I used to dream too.

I refuse to let it take over me anymore.

I've never fallen in love, but I stepped in it once.:p

I think it will make it worst to fight it. You should try to understand it. If you are repeatedly dreaming about some bad childhood experiences, you have some personal issues you need to sort it out. For me, I treated the dreams as a sign telling me I have fully recovered from my training stress/load. :D

Not dreams that come in your sleep. Dreams about the future. I used to get all tied up in them. Planning things, hoping, dreaming. But I realized recently that I need to live for today and not what COULD be. I'm more productive that way. Life is easier for me now. So much easier to let things go if you don't get tied up in them.

As someone told me last year (before I realized I should listen to him), "Don't get your emotions involved." Seems to work for me pretty good.

"Life, so they say, is but a game and we let it slip away.
Love, like the Autumn sun, should be dyin' but it's only just begun.
Like the twilight in the road up ahead, they don't see just where we're goin'.
And all the secrets in the Universe, whisper in our ears
And all the years will come and go, take us up, always up.
We may never pass this way again.

Dreams, so they say, are for the fools and they let 'em drift away.
Peace, like the silent dove, should be flyin' but it's only just begun.
Like Columbus in the olden days, we must gather all our courage.
Sail our ships out on the open sea. Cast away our fears
And all the years will come and go, and take us up, always up.
We may never pass this way again."

Don't be afraid to love...don't be afraid to dream.

Yes. I know you will. Trust me, sometimes I "know" things.
You just may be right.

"Life, so they say, is but a game and we let it slip away.
Love, like the Autumn sun, should be dyin' but it's only just begun.
Like the twilight in the road up ahead, they don't see just where we're goin'.
And all the secrets in the Universe, whisper in our ears
And all the years will come and go, take us up, always up.
We may never pass this way again.

Dreams, so they say, are for the fools and they let 'em drift away.
Peace, like the silent dove, should be flyin' but it's only just begun.
Like Columbus in the olden days, we must gather all our courage.
Sail our ships out on the open sea. Cast away our fears
And all the years will come and go, and take us up, always up.
We may never pass this way again."

Don't be afraid to love...don't be afraid to dream.
Beautiful, R-dad. Did you write that?

Beautiful, R-dad. Did you write that?

The last line is mine. The rest is Seals and Croft, "We May Never Pass This Way Again". I love that song.

Hm. Reminds me of England Dan and John Ford Coley. Wonder why? :D

Same ancient era. :lol:

*checking Bonnie Raitt-ish white streak in mirror* :eek:

*checking Bonnie Raitt-ish white streak in mirror* :eek:

:p

Yeah, you're laughing, with the gray at the temples. :rolleyes:

Who Me??

Who Me??
Oh, sorry. Hadn't looked over atcha since you started usin' the Grecian Formula. :D

OK, ya got me! I ain't scared of no gray!!

Hey, baybuh, gray says you've been there, and know how to navigate the course! :D

Hey, baybuh, gray says you've been there, and know how to navigate the course! :D

Gray says I have 3 kids!! :D

***tries shaking the sticky thread sap off my hands***
ew ew ew get it off, get if OFF, GET IT OFF!!!!

:lol:

love... so unexpectated,
makes you do the darnest things, lets you down after getting you so high.
love.. can take you places you never dreamed of, can make you the most powerful person just to make you weakest another instance.
makes one scared, makes one brave..
Love... one crazy drug! :)

Gray says I have 3 kids!! :D
Then what does my white hair say about me?! :eek:

That you have much to give.

in addition, love is an action word, anyone sits on their ass and talks about love, ain't got it. :D