Mountain Biking - X-vert Carbon vs Jr T

I was wondering whet would be suggested, an X-Vert Carbon or a Jr T. I can get either for about the same price on either mtbr or pinkbike and was wondering which was to go towards. Will the xvert be as built for drops as the jr t, and will the jr t have as much DH capability as the xvert carbon? etc etc

thanks

What year is the XVert?

Ditto for the Jr.T?

What is the asking price of each?

L8R

i think the x vert was an 01 [it doesnt say, im emailing the guy now] and has 6.25 inches of travel and is a claimed 5.35 pounds. the jr t that i saw [no more], was an 02 model and had 6 inches of travel, i dont know the weight. im almost certain that another 02 jrt t will come up on pinkbike or mtbr soon enough. also, whats up with the 03 jrts, they all seem to be 5 inches, is that true?

170mm = 6.5 inches I think...no where near 5...(130mm is 5 inches give or take)

http://www.marzocchi.com/eng/spa/products/mtb/catalogs/2003/jrt.asp

i just see a lot of '03 jr ts advertised on pinkbike that are 5 inches, it seems like everybody is trying to trade there 5 inch '03 jr t for an 02 model which has more travel. although now that i have looked again i see a jr t thats 7 inches. so i really dunno. does anybody?

A lot of people on pinkbike are *******...;):D

The biggest difference between 02 and 03 and this applys to every Marz fork is a massive loss in wheel size. You can now only run very small 2.7 and mostly 2.5's where previously larger wheels were allowed. :)

right...anyway. back to the subject, which would you reccomend for freerideing [includes climbing to get to the descents] and a weekend here and there at plattekill.

Marz hands down.

Ditto, unless you have a Pro Suspension Tuner at your service. Much more durable and smoother. Little heavier, but more reliable.

L8R

Marzocchi

I rode an xvert for a couple years, very good fork and good adjustability. Now I'm riding a Super T and it is a very solid fork. My only complaint is it does not have a rebound damp adjustment. Probably not that big of a deal, but it would be a better fork if you could dial it in a little more. I think the Super T feels more solid though...

MikeOK: I'm about 90% sure that the Super T DOES have a rebound adjustment... for crying out loud my 03 Jr.T does!

It's probably internally adjusted.. like mine is. Did your fork come with a long plastic hexagon-shaped rod? If so, that's what you stick down inside the fork to adjust the dampening.


For the other guy asking about forks

As far as 03' Jr.T's go dude, the 03's have 7" of travel. The reason there's 5" travel ones on Pinkbike is because they are the Jr.T 2. Those were OFF OF KONAS IN CANADA. Kona wanted a 5" DC fork for their 03' Stinky line-up in Canada... so Marzocchi specifically built the forks for those bikes. Now everyone up there wants more travel, so there's an abundance of "****** Jr.T's" floating around.

Make sure you get a STANDARD 03' Jr.T. It has 170mm travel, and it's awesome. I have one myself.

:beer:

A 5inch dc...thats funny and such a waste :)...thanx big hit I didn't actually realize that..do you know if they can bemodified to be 7 inches?

Originally posted by BigHit-Maniac
MikeOK: I'm about 90% sure that the Super T DOES have a rebound adjustment... for crying out loud my 03 Jr.T does!

It's probably internally adjusted.. like mine is. Did your fork come with a long plastic hexagon-shaped rod? If so, that's what you stick down inside the fork to adjust the dampening.
:beer:

Hey bighit, mine did not come with any hex rod, and it is an '02. I would DEFINATELY appreciate it if you can elaborate, I need to slow mine down. I downloaded the manual and could not find anything in it about adjusting the rebound, and I was surprised that a high end fork like this wouldn't adjust...

A 5inch dc...thats funny and such a waste ...thanx big hit I didn't actually realize that..do you know if they can bemodified to be 7 inches?

Yeah, no problem bro. I found that out from reading through the Canadian sites. Kona wanted a 5" DC to keep the strength HIGH, but the "pogo effect" down. The Canadian version comes with the Jr.T2 (which no one wants). The American version comes with a Dirtjumper II or III (can't remember which).

But yeah, If you go to order an 03' Jr.T .. make sure it's NOT the Jr.T2.


Hey bighit, mine did not come with any hex rod, and it is an '02. I would DEFINATELY appreciate it if you can elaborate, I need to slow mine down. I downloaded the manual and could not find anything in it about adjusting the rebound, and I was surprised that a high end fork like this wouldn't adjust...

Hey MikeOK. What's up? My Jr.T 03' came with a white-colored "curtan rod" looking hexagon piece. What you do to adjust *my* rebound, is you take off the top caps (21mm socket, or be CAREFUL with a Crescent-Wrench!)... and you pop out the top springs & Black colored shim/spacers. (put them on a towel, in the order they came out so you dont screw anything up. ).

Then you compress the fork down, and yes it looks funny. :D

Then you insert the hexagon rod, and giggle it around a little bit, until it fits into a "socket".... this is the rebound adjustment on my fork. I turn it to the RIGHT to make it faster, and to the left to make it slower. I have mine set a *smidge* quick... simply because I have SSVF valving, and you have cartridges.

Since you have cartridges, there might be some knobs on the bottom of the legs.. check those out. If they're BOLTS... *do not* loosen them. Those aren't adjusters (i'm about 90% sure).

The zokie' manual does JACK BEANS for telling you how to do complicated adjustments... so honestly, you might just have to tinker with it a bit. (that's what I did.. with my LBS's mechanic).

Anyways, good luck to all.

-Matt :beer:

MikeOK : I just had a quick look on the Marzocchi site ( http://www.marzocchimtb.com/bombers01/supert_frame.html http://www.marzocchimtb.com/bombers02/supert.html ) at both '01 and '02 Super Ts and both are listed as external preload and rebound adjustment. I have downloaded manuals off this site and have found them to be much more comprehensive than the ones on www.marzocchi.com

HTH

Dang you are right, I said it backwards. It DOES have a rebound adjuster, the one it's missing is the compression damping adjustment. You can change that with oil but it would be nice to be able to dial it in quickly for changing terrain. Thanks for the link, I'll download it next week (dial-up at home, T1 at work heheh) The manual that comes with the fork is pretty lame...

Originally posted by skdsl
MikeOK : I just had a quick look on the Marzocchi site ( http://www.marzocchimtb.com/bombers01/supert_frame.html http://www.marzocchimtb.com/bombers02/supert.html ) at both '01 and '02 Super Ts and both are listed as external preload and rebound adjustment. I have downloaded manuals off this site and have found them to be much more comprehensive than the ones on www.marzocchi.com

HTH

I wish the american would update thatsite. It has always been better but it takes forever for updates. So we are stuck using the euro site...arg.