Foo - How dumb and uncaring can people be?

A radio station held a contest to win a Wii machine, seeing how much water people could drink without peeing; one woman died (obviously of water intoxication). But the kicker? A nurse called the show during the contest to warn that people can DIE from water intoxication and the radio show host replied, "Yeah, we're aware of that. They signed releases so we're not responsible, okay?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/entertainment/main2365259.shtml

What morons/a-holes! It's very difficult to die from dehydration but surprisingly easy to die from over-hydration.

Ok lets just pretend this is a cycling related post for a second...wouldn't it be better off in the Fitness and Nutrition forum?

Ok lets just pretend this is a cycling related post for a second...wouldn't it be better off in the Fitness and Nutrition forum?

No, my post is not about the scientific facts of hydration, but about the callous/uncaring nature of the radio show hosts.

I understand everyone associated with the show was fired. At least that's something.

Joe

No, my post is not about the scientific facts of hydration, but about the callous/uncaring nature of the radio show hosts.


You see their darkside clearly in the Hip/Knave threads

I understand everyone associated with the show was fired. At least that's something.

Joe


Hip got fired?????

:D

Are cyclists less callous/uncaring than the general public?

/trying to make this thread relevant to this forum

No, my post is not about the scientific facts of hydration, but about the callous/uncaring nature of the radio show hosts.

So really, you are saying this belongs in Foo?

</callousAndUncaring>

I feel sorry for the woman but theres a point you have to take responsibility for your own well being.

I feel sorry for the woman but theres a point you have to take responsibility for your own well being.

Sure but most people have no idea you can become sick from drinking too much water and according to the article, none of the contestants were able to hear the nurse that called in warning of the dangers of over-hydration, whereas the DJ did and said he didn't care.

Sure but most people have no idea you can become sick from drinking too much water and according to the article, none of the contestants were able to hear the nurse that called in warning of the dangers of over-hydration, whereas the DJ did and said he didn't care.


So it was someone elses fault that "she" was an idiot and drank too much water for a $250 game?????? A little thing called "personal responsibilty" goes a long way.

I feel sorry for the woman but theres a point you have to take responsibility for your own well being.
And while I agree with you in principle (and I would more strongly agree if the contest had been a 'drink the most beer and win a Wii' kind of thing), most people aren't aware of the dangers of drinking too much water. We see people cram dozens of hot dogs in their faces to win prizes seemingly without consequence. And water is just one of those things that is good for you, seemingly. We're supposed to drink water. We are mostly water. So I understand how the woman wouldn't have known that too much water can be fatal. The radio station bears the lion's share (no pun intended) of the responsibility here, IMO.

So it was someone elses fault that "she" was an idiot and drank too much water for a $250 game?????? A little thing called "personal responsibilty" goes a long way.

I agree with you, though I still think it was dumb in the first place for the station to hold the contest.

was hipcycler the radio host??? I hope not...

Anyway, I hope they get thier butts sued off...I'm sure they didn't properly warn the contestants that they were posioning themselves and could die...

What is a jury going to think when they hear the radio guys comments...

was hipcycler the radio host?
No. Hip wasn't the host. He might host a 'Eat the Most Funnel Cake' Contest at the Wisconsin State Fair. :D But not this. Besides, Hip's not a callous idiot.

I want to be clear, my reference to Hip was an attempt to be humorous. Hip had nothing to do with this.

No, my post is not about the scientific facts of hydration, but about the callous/uncaring nature of the radio show hosts.

apart from the fact that we drink water when we ride, what does this have to do with road cycling in the slightest?

I want to be clear, my reference to Hip was an attempt to be humorous. Hip had nothing to do with this.

how can you be sure? :D

A radio station saying/doing something stupid, imagine that.......

So it was someone elses fault that "she" was an idiot and drank too much water for a $250 game?????? A little thing called "personal responsibilty" goes a long way.

Tell that to her three kids she was trying to win the Nintendo for.

A radio station held a contest to win a Wii machine, seeing how much water people could drink without peeing; one woman died (obviously of water intoxication). But the kicker? A nurse called the show during the contest to warn that people can DIE from water intoxication and the radio show host replied, "Yeah, we're aware of that. They signed releases so we're not responsible, okay?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/entertainment/main2365259.shtml

What morons/a-holes! It's very difficult to die from dehydration but surprisingly easy to die from over-hydration.
let me introduce you to a pretty cool place called "foo" it's at the bottom of this page, it has all sort of off topic like this and a bunch of cool people who hang out in there. Sometimes I wish more of you roadies would stop by to say hi or just have a laugh.:) just saying...

I read the article and it talked about how much water they drank. It didn't sound like all that much compared to what we cyclists drink on a hot long where we are riding for a couple of hours.

Was the issue that it didn't have the electrolytes in it and so it diluted those in her system to a dangerous level? Or was she not used to it? Or did she just drink too much at one time as opposed to when we ride and drink a little bit every 10-15 min?

apart from the fact that we drink water when we ride, what does this have to do with road cycling in the slightest?
Well I heard that once the radio show host mentioned that his friend the shock jock from another station mentioned that he new a guy that ran a cyclist off the road and laughed about it...:D oops, dang thats the advocacy forum. Hmm, ok, I heard that the radio show host said Campagnolo was a load of crap and that his Shimano could stomp it into the ground anyday! Hows that?

Guys a jerk. But then again as for talk show hosts Ecclesiastes says it best.-
3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool’s voice is known by multitude of words.

To keep this cycling related - remember this story:
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-129476.html

I read the article and it talked about how much water they drank. It didn't sound like all that much compared to what we cyclists drink on a hot long where we are riding for a couple of hours.

Was the issue that it didn't have the electrolytes in it and so it diluted those in her system to a dangerous level? Or was she not used to it? Or did she just drink too much at one time as opposed to when we ride and drink a little bit every 10-15 min?

And, now the reason this should stay in road cycling. Obviously, not everyone is aware of the dangers of drinking too much water without balancing the electrolytes. It is a danger for cyclists because we DO drink a lot of water during long rides on hot days, so this is something we should all be aware of.

I read the article and it talked about how much water they drank. It didn't sound like all that much compared to what we cyclists drink on a hot long where we are riding for a couple of hours.

Was the issue that it didn't have the electrolytes in it and so it diluted those in her system to a dangerous level? Or was she not used to it? Or did she just drink too much at one time as opposed to when we ride and drink a little bit every 10-15 min?


The difference being a typical adult can sweat quarts an hour in hot weather thus losing the water. A wise contestant on this contest would run or work out if they were allowed thus, they wouldn't be peeing but instead sweating it out. A person just sitting and drinking and not paying attention to a sick feeling would indeed overload on water, especially in lower or temperate temperatures.

A radio station held a contest to win a Wii machine, seeing how much water people could drink without peeing; one woman died (obviously of water intoxication). But the kicker? A nurse called the show during the contest to warn that people can DIE from water intoxication and the radio show host replied, "Yeah, we're aware of that. They signed releases so we're not responsible, okay?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/entertainment/main2365259.shtml

What morons/a-holes! It's very difficult to die from dehydration but surprisingly easy to die from over-hydration.

This is crazy i heard about that, this contest should have never taken place.

This is crazy i heard about that, this contest should have never taken place.

ya think?

ya think?

Indeed Mr. know it all.

It's called a candidate for the Darwin Award

if you're so ****ing stupid to drink yourself to death you deserve to die. And I hope that anybody that sues on your dumb behalf suffers a similar fate.
Seriously, how ****ing ******** can you be to commit suicide through stupidity and expect the world to care more then you cared for your own body.

A radio station held a contest to win a Wii machine, seeing how much water people could drink without peeing; one woman died (obviously of water intoxication). But the kicker? A nurse called the show during the contest to warn that people can DIE from water intoxication and the radio show host replied, "Yeah, we're aware of that. They signed releases so we're not responsible, okay?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/entertainment/main2365259.shtml

What morons/a-holes! It's very difficult to die from dehydration but surprisingly easy to die from over-hydration.

They were fired for it and may have civil liability but if you knew the consequences you get what you deserve in my book.

Indeed Mr. know it all.

I don't know it all, I just know the obvious stuff. As TexasGuy wrote, this is Darwin Award material.

This contest wins

http://www.joebrower.com/PHILE_PILE/PIX/FR/darwin_award2.jpg

obviously a lot of perople don't know the water-can-kill- you thing. it was wrong to disregard the nurse's warning... what a horrible thing.

Ok lets just pretend this is a cycling related post for a second...wouldn't it be better off in the Fitness and Nutrition forum?

this is foo...just incase you werent aware...

this is foo...just incase you werent aware...

he was fully aware of the fact that this thread started out in ROAD CYCLING when he posted his reply :rolleyes:

I can also see the transition point when it was moved.....difference in posting attitude!

This seems to be what radio is becoming

Politics - hate filled propaganda, mostly for Republicans who gave them the public airways under Newt Gingrich's contract on America.

Sports - Some of the most vicious hate radio on the airs, and sorry to say that racial is the majority of the hate rants on those programs.

Morning drive time shows - These are suppose to be "funny" shock radio, they are FAR from funny. They are mean and hateful, some have promoted running over bicyclist to the listeners. Road rage stories are told with pride and a snicker.

Womens Help Shows - Dr Laura comes off like a "tough love" adviser, bull, she's part of the Republican propaganda machine, seeding mistrust of Dems with every show. Of course over the years she has praised Bush and Cheney for their honesty.....yeah, right!

Woman dies drinking too much water, and not releiving herself in a radio contest....look at we've become as a nation...shame.

he was fully aware of the fact that this thread started out in ROAD CYCLING when he posted his reply :rolleyes:

my bad! :o

I understand everyone associated with the show was fired. At least that's something.

Joe

Yeah, that happened here in my neck o' the woods. FWIW, heard yesterday that heads are continuing to roll, up to 9, even in management.

Sports radio is filled with hate and racism? Not the shows I hear (including some national ones). You must have a lot different radio than I do. Often, commentators go out of their way to avoid discussing racial issues.


This seems to be what radio is becoming

Politics - hate filled propaganda, mostly for Republicans who gave them the public airways under Newt Gingrich's contract on America.

Sports - Some of the most vicious hate radio on the airs, and sorry to say that racial is the majority of the hate rants on those programs.

Morning drive time shows - These are suppose to be "funny" shock radio, they are FAR from funny. They are mean and hateful, some have promoted running over bicyclist to the listeners. Road rage stories are told with pride and a snicker.

Womens Help Shows - Dr Laura comes off like a "tough love" adviser, bull, she's part of the Republican propaganda machine, seeding mistrust of Dems with every show. Of course over the years she has praised Bush and Cheney for their honesty.....yeah, right!

Woman dies drinking too much water, and not releiving herself in a radio contest....look at we've become as a nation...shame.

One time, this ninja flipped out and killed an entire town just because some kid dropped a spoon. That's pretty uncaring.

I heard a lot of the audio, of the contest. The DJ's were typical male radio show DJ's. There are lots of this format in the US where you have two balding fat guys hosting a show and bringing in naked girls, talking about raunchy subjects and hosting stupid contests like this one.

These guys were completely laughing at all of the notions that somebody might die. At one point a female caller calls in to tell the DJ's that this is dangerous and that somebody might die. They just bagged on her and made fun of her. They then started to ask if there were any dead contestants. "Steve, are you dead yet," they quipped. Then they actually asked the girl that died, "Julie (not sure of name) are you dead yet?"

"No, she replied, but I have a bad headache and I am getting dizzy." They continued to laugh and joke. At some point later she died. They obviously didn't really think she was going to die, but there is plenty of negligence. The girl is responsible too, but she already paid the price. Others should too.

Originally Posted by ShiftyThis seems to be what radio is becoming

Politics - hate filled propaganda, mostly for Republicans who gave them the public airways under Newt Gingrich's contract on America.

Sports - Some of the most vicious hate radio on the airs, and sorry to say that racial is the majority of the hate rants on those programs.

Morning drive time shows - These are suppose to be "funny" shock radio, they are FAR from funny. They are mean and hateful, some have promoted running over bicyclist to the listeners. Road rage stories are told with pride and a snicker.

Womens Help Shows - Dr Laura comes off like a "tough love" adviser, bull, she's part of the Republican propaganda machine, seeding mistrust of Dems with every show. Of course over the years she has praised Bush and Cheney for their honesty.....yeah, right!

Woman dies drinking too much water, and not releiving herself in a radio contest....look at we've become as a nation...shame.


uh, perhaps you're ready to install a cd/mp3 player in your car & "tune out"?

Originally Posted by ShiftyThis seems to be what radio is becoming





uh, perhaps you're ready to install a cd/mp3 player in your car & "tune out"?

Without a doubt, between Clear Channel and Cumulus I'm getting down right cranky!! I almost exclusively listen to public broadcasting. :D

It's called a candidate for the Darwin Award

if you're so ****ing stupid to drink yourself to death you deserve to die. And I hope that anybody that sues on your dumb behalf suffers a similar fate.
Naw. It's not common knowledge that a water overdose can kill or cause brain damage. I know plenty of doctors, nurses, and EMTs who didn't learn this until it came up in their medical training. I know cyclists (myself included) who only learned about water overdoses because it was relevant to cycling.

The woman who died after the contest wasn't necessarily stupid; she was just missing a crucial piece of data. Maybe the radio guys didn't know it was dangerous either, and dismissed the nurse who warned them as a crackpot. If they really did know they were endangering their contestants' lives, and didn't care because everyone had "signed releases," then they deserve to fry.

Basic rules of life:

1) too much of anything is harmful
2) everything is harmful in some way if used wrong.
3) if doing something makes you feel ill...STOP...it's hurting you

Failure to regard rules 1-3 will result in bad things happening....

The entire thing is stupid. Who drinks water -endlessly- just to win a ******** game console thing?
Who does that to themselves? A game. Not money that COULD be used for something important
a game.
just a game thing
When I was 6 or so we had this thing called Atari
I didn't cry over not having one. I eventually did get one ..my brothers gave me theirs as they moved onto nintendo
But I wouldn't have drank water to win one
I wouldn't have kept myself from going to the bathroom to win one

That's sick. Pathetic.

"Chico State University student died after drinking too much water in a hazing incident at a fraternity."

That sounds about right. People will do anything to fit in. They'll lose themselves in order to fit in.
When did game console status equate into whether one is popular or not? Probably around the same time people everywhere got fat.

Some people say the stupid get what they deserve
Maybe the stupid outweigh the smart ..literally
maybe the "smart" are just as stupid for letting the stupid do as they wish without saying a word against it
I mean
those other senior kids must have known some stuff
they're in college
Maybe they aren't smart at all
Those at the station
They knew of the dangers they say
?
They must not be very smart, either

So we put these people in jail? We don't win this war by putting smart-stupids in jail. why not put the other stupid people in jail? ..those that actually do what they're told to do in order to win games or a place within the family
Because we look to the "smart" to do what is right and to keep people -"stupids"- safe from themselves?
Sure
But these people are clearly not the smart people we are after
They're just as much the victims here as those they kill through their stupid games and hazing rituals

We should toss these people into school
Not our schools, though
Our schools are assembly lines for stupids making

You forgot one angle sunofsand.

The Wii is still selling quite nicely on Ebay, for a hundred or so over MSRP. So if they wanted, they could just flip the prize and pay their rent with it.

geez...

they should be put in jail for this..