Fifty Plus (50+) - does your saddle hurt

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does your saddle hurt your prostate, OUCH!!!
Big Paulie
01-18-07, 04:27 PM
Nope!
I now use a 155mm Specialized Alias, which replaced my very-good-but-not-perfect SSM Regal.
zonatandem
01-18-07, 04:54 PM
Have never asked my saddle if it hurts . . .
Terrierman
01-18-07, 05:11 PM
No. It's a B-17.
Red Baron
01-18-07, 05:13 PM
I sit on my Bones.
I tried about 6 saddles before I found the one I liked. I bought several and put same type on all my bikes.
My choice is a terry fly 'buzz off', guy I bought it from didn't like it so got 1st one cheap. Others I bgt/spld on ebay (sometimes made a profit).
Digital Gee
01-18-07, 05:31 PM
Not mine, a Specialized Alias. But I thought the thread subject was some kind of straight line, as in, "Does your face hurt?"
"No."
"that's odd, it's killing me!"
<ba dum bum>
BlazingPedals
01-18-07, 07:02 PM
The best I ever found was an Avocet Touring III, which I could bear for 80 mile rides, sometimes on back to back days. On multi-day tours, forget it! Nothing ever worked! One reason I finally got sick and tired of fiddling with the upright trying to make it comfortable, and finally got my first recumbent. That was 10 years ago, and I've never looked back.
Trsnrtr
01-18-07, 07:21 PM
No, because:
1. No prostate (cancer)
2. No saddle (ride a bent)
BluesDawg
01-18-07, 07:39 PM
No. It's a B-17.
+1
Sometimes I forget that I'm on a saddle. Total non-issue.
ollo_ollo
01-18-07, 08:18 PM
+1 for the Brooks Solution
Cassave
01-19-07, 09:23 AM
+1 for B-17's.
Got'em on both bikes.
I can vouch for Brooks (I have a Pro, a Team Pro, and a Competition, plus a similar tensioned leather Ideale) and for Avocet Touring II.
I have owned only one saddle which bothered my perinaeum -- a narrow padded vinyl Marin. A narrow geometry plus padding is probably the worst-case configuration, because the center tends to put pressure right where it is least welcome. Get a traditional tensioned leather saddle or a modern saddle with some sort of cutout or depression (e.g. Serfas ARC, which I also like) at the top.
stapfam
01-19-07, 10:46 AM
No, because:
1. No prostate (cancer)
2. No saddle (ride a bent)
Oh no--- I have something in common with a bent rider!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
And I don't mean the No saddle. I never found a problem with a saddle and a prostate untill 6 weeks after it was removed and I sat on a saddle. That hurt- At that time I was using a flite Titanium and it used to be comfortable. 16 saddles later (With the adjustment in the Area where the prostate used to be) and I have finished Up with a Flite Max gel flow. Exactly the same saddle but without the Titanium rails but with a bit of Gel and a cutaway.
Trsnrtr
01-19-07, 03:07 PM
I never found a problem with a saddle and a prostate untill 6 weeks after it was removed and I sat on a saddle.
I made it exactly 0.5 miles the first time I sat on a bike after having my prostate removed and that was after 12 weeks of healing. A week later, I made 1.5 miles and afew weeks later, I was up to 13 miles. During this same time. I put a thousand miles on a bent with no problems. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but it wasn't hard to figure this problem out. My Serotta and Eisentraut found new homes and my bottom knows no pain. :)
stapfam
01-19-07, 03:26 PM
I made it exactly 0.5 miles the first time I sat on a bike after having my prostate removed and that was after 12 weeks of healing. A week later, I made 1.5 miles and afew weeks later, I was up to 13 miles. During this same time. I put a thousand miles on a bent with no problems. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but it wasn't hard to figure this problem out. My Serotta and Eisentraut found new homes and my bottom knows no pain. :)
I was lucky- Or determined to get riding again, but at 6 weeks I could not sit on a saddle- Straight to the LBS and bought a Comfortable saddle. At 7 weeks I was up to 10 miles and at 8 weeks it was a 30 miler offroad with just a little bit of pain. At 9 weeks it was down the LBS for a new saddle again as my Backside was altering shape to compensate for the Bit that was missing. Had to keep buying saddles till I found the Selle italia Trans Am and that was fitted to the Tandem when I got it. Unfortunately- I think I got the last one in the country so it took a while longer before I found the saddle for the solo.
As to prostate being iritated by riding- This has been bought up before but I never had prostate pain- even once it was confirmed I had a problem. Of all the cyclists I know, I only know of one other rider that had a prostate problem and he was 70+ when he contracted PCa. Of all the PCa sufferers That I have come in contact with- I only know of two that Cycled- but plenty that had sedentary jobs and did not exercise.
I just intalled the Specialized Toupe in a pimping white and blue color. It really looks pretty sweet on the Madone. We have a 90+ mile ride tomorrow so I will find out very quickly if it's meant to be.
Dogbait
01-19-07, 05:51 PM
I have just recently begun cycling again after surgery for prostate cancer in October. I am up to 6 miles at a time and feel no discomfort in the perineal region. I use a Brooks Conquest and Team Pro but saddle fit and comfort is very subjective. It has been a slow recovery process for me. The type of surgery I had was done via 7 very small but deep incisions and my abdominal muscles have healed slowly. It has been pain in these muscles that has kept me off the bike. I look forward to getting back to my 300 to 400 miles per month as the weather improves this spring.
I would add that, if you have pain in the area of your prostate, you should have it checked out right away. Prostate cancer is not something to be ignored.
Trsnrtr
01-19-07, 07:01 PM
Stapfam, my doctor wouldn't even let me near an upright bike for 12 weeks, but he let me ride a recumbent at 6.
Dogbait, I didn't feel 100% for about 9 months, though I was riding a lot. All of a sudden, everything clicked and I felt great on the bike. In fact, I feel better now at 3.5 years post surgery than I did in the few years before. It's probably a coincidence or maybe I just have a different outlook on life, who knows, but I certainly feel great!
Mr. Gear Jammer
01-19-07, 07:21 PM
does your saddle hurt your prostate, OUCH!!!
Maybe you should adjust the seat or get a seat that is geared towards your comfort level.
Dogbait
01-19-07, 07:59 PM
Dogbait, I didn't feel 100% for about 9 months, though I was riding a lot. All of a sudden, everything clicked and I felt great on the bike. In fact, I feel better now at 3.5 years post surgery than I did in the few years before. It's probably a coincidence or maybe I just have a different outlook on life, who knows, but I certainly feel great!
Thanks for the encouragement. Other friends and family who have been through this keep telling me to be patient... takes about a year. Aside from the abdominal pain, I am doing well and feel better every day. Just getting a little antsy (maybe it's the weather).
I guess I expect too much from modern medicine; but then, this was my first major surgery since 1956. :D
HiYoSilver
01-19-07, 08:10 PM
Profile Tri Stryke will solve both comfort and pressure problems.
Sandwarrior
01-19-07, 09:45 PM
No, because:
2. No saddle (ride a bent)
But still having prostate problems...I don't sleep through the night, I get 7 - 45 minute naps
Carusoswi
01-21-07, 12:04 PM
I am so surprised that so few have discovered my saddle, the FISIK Arione. It looks wickedly long and narrow, but, from the first time I tried it, I have been riding it without a whimper from down yonder. I know saddles are a very personal choice and what works for one may hurt for another - but, if you haven't tried this saddle, I think you should.
Caruso
Nope, I ride a RANS Crank Forward...
Red Baron
01-21-07, 12:27 PM
I sit on my Bones.
I tried about 6 saddles before I found the one I liked. I bought several and put same type on all my bikes.
My choice is a terry fly 'buzz off', guy I bought it from didn't like it so got 1st one cheap. Others I bgt/spld on ebay (sometimes made a profit).
I'm quoting myself, 'Sit on my Bones' is the correct fit to find. I've had the 'rubber bands' treatment for 'roids (I know - thanks to me for sharing that:eek: ). But per Dr's OK, day after the first time I did 35 miles, day after 2nd time I did 40 miles. And, I can't stand to sit on my compact kubota tractor for longer than 2 hours cutting grass. Bike seat -I've gone 3 1/2 hrs no discomfort (in that area).
Message is : find the right saddle even if you have to try several. Its a very pesonal fit.
No. Brooks saddles solved the problems for me. B17's and B67's.
cheeseflavor
01-21-07, 09:26 PM
does your saddle hurt your prostate, OUCH!!!
Nope.
Steve
centexwoody
01-21-07, 09:29 PM
does your saddle hurt your prostate, OUCH!!!
no - but I've got a drawer full of saddles that hurt everything else...
rmwun54
01-21-07, 09:29 PM
Nope WTB Pure V is the way to go.
Cycling sure does not cause prostate cancer. And also, prostate cancer is almost never painful, at least till it spreads, then its a different thing. So get your annual PSA.
Glad you found a saddle that is comfortable Stepfam. It must put your weight out further laterally on to the bones.
I Bike - is the Rans CF saddle as comfortable as the average bent saddle with no back to it? And is most of your upper body weight still on your spine? After a bunch of back surgeries I find the big seller of a bent seat for me is that a lot of the upper body weight is taken up by the seat back. I'll have to ride a Rans CF someday but no dealers around here.
Opedaler
01-22-07, 08:18 AM
does your saddle hurt your prostate, OUCH!!!
Don't know if it's my prostate, but definitely pinching some nerves in there. I've fiddled and faddled, bought new seats, tried different styles and while I'm keeping some fat tire bikes for some heavily graveled roads that I must ride, I'm really looking (and trying out) some bents. Hoping to find something that allows me to think of something ohter than where I hurt.
Cycling sure does not cause prostate cancer. And also, prostate cancer is almost never painful, at least till it spreads, then its a different thing. So get your annual PSA.
Glad you found a saddle that is comfortable Stepfam. It must put your weight out further laterally on to the bones.
I Bike - is the Rans CF saddle as comfortable as the average bent saddle with no back to it? And is most of your upper body weight still on your spine? After a bunch of back surgeries I find the big seller of a bent seat for me is that a lot of the upper body weight is taken up by the seat back. I'll have to ride a Rans CF someday but no dealers around here.
bobkat,
Strangely enough, I find the RANS CF seat more comfortable, especially on long rides. I rode several different recumbents from 1999 to 2006 and now matter what I tried I would get an ache in my lower back (I have arthritis and some bone spurs in my lower back) after some time in the saddle. The RANS seat and geometry solve the problem for me. The angle of the seat and the geometry tens to push you forward enough that the pressure is off the spine. Now, the seat itself is not a big fluffy bent cushion, but its design is perfect support and a pain free ride. Anyway, I’ve always preferred the handling of an upright bike – so this is a great combination for me.
There was a discussion on Bentrider about this very same topic:
http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/showthread.php?p=213572#poststop
Trsnrtr
01-22-07, 09:22 AM
Don't know if it's my prostate, but definitely pinching some nerves in there. I've fiddled and faddled, bought new seats, tried different styles and while I'm keeping some fat tire bikes for some heavily graveled roads that I must ride, I'm really looking (and trying out) some bents. Hoping to find something that allows me to think of something ohter than where I hurt.
The prostate is in the "taint" area. Is that where you hurt? Anyway, I don't have a prostate and have pain there because I rarely ride an upright anymore. Saddle time seems to ameliorate the problem. I'm taking a week long trip this Summer with my tandem and definitely plan on getting my tush in shape beforehand by ramping up my saddle time. :)
SaiKaiTai
01-22-07, 09:24 AM
I adjusted my saddle before I headed out for my Saturday ride this past weekend.
Guess I didn't quite tighten it down enough 'cause I hit a big bump in the road and the next thing I knew, the nose of the saddle came flying up to get up close & personal with my -ahem- sensitive regions.
Yeah, that hurt a little.
vger285
01-24-07, 01:23 PM
The prostate is in the "taint" area. Is that where you hurt? Anyway, I don't have a prostate and have pain there because I rarely ride an upright anymore. Saddle time seems to ameliorate the problem. I'm taking a week long trip this Summer with my tandem and definitely plan on getting my tush in shape beforehand by ramping up my saddle time. :)
Maybe a saddle like this might work for you? i love this thing!(http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u268/joyboy_photo/?action=view¤t=DSC02307.jpg)
Trsnrtr
01-24-07, 02:07 PM
Maybe a saddle like this might work for you? i love this thing!(http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u268/joyboy_photo/?action=view¤t=DSC02307.jpg)
Thanks, but I don't really need a new saddle. The original poster might like to try it, though.
Nope. Touring, B-17
Road, Specialized Alias 143.
B4--------Numbness.
ps: seat adjustment is important.
pps: just me 2 cents worth.
does your saddle hurt your prostate, OUCH!!!
No, but even after trying numerous saddles (not Brooks) including cutouts I get numbness after about 30 min riding. Any thoughts on how to alleviate/avoid this?
BluesDawg
01-26-07, 07:53 AM
No, but even after trying numerous saddles (not Brooks) including cutouts I get numbness after about 30 min riding. Any thoughts on how to alleviate/avoid this?
I think you answered your own question. ;)
I've found the WTB Rocket V Race saddles on my hybrid and tandem to be very comfortable. That said, they don't entirely prevent occasional instances of NPS*. Nary an episode of NPS* in the 2000 miles I've ridden my Rans Tailwind (with the exceptional Rans seat) in the last 10 months. (*NPS=Numb Pecker Syndrome).
I think you answered your own question. ;)
Could be! Trouble is the Brooks are so esthetically unpleasing and would look awful on my bikes:) , tho' in my youth I rode one for thousands of miles without problems, as far as I can recall. There wasn't much else to choose from that long ago in the UK. I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and try a new one, as my 50-year-old one is a bit aged and cracked.
sallison
01-26-07, 01:04 PM
I suggest that you take a look at the Rido saddle. It works for me and it is cheap to boot.
http://www.rido-cyclesaddles.com
http://www.rido-cyclesaddles.com/images/Backgroundx.jpg
Is this before or after using a Rido saddle? (From the Rido web site.)
I suggest that you take a look at the Rido saddle. It works for me and it is cheap to boot.
http://www.rido-cyclesaddles.com
Thanks. I've just ordered one. Pity about the yellow on all of them, but if it works......
Tom Bombadil
01-29-07, 07:25 PM
Interesting saddle.
They make one that glows in the dark???
stapfam
01-30-07, 10:40 AM
Many will confirm it- but saddles are one thing that most of us have problems with. Like Centexwoody- I have plenty of saddles to loan to other riders if they want. One mistake that most of us make is getting the wrong size/ width of saddle. This is also dependant on the type of bike- how upright we are when riding and How much we believe the marketing hype of the manufacturers.
I found a type of saddle many years ago that most look at and dismiss. The thin Narrow ones with a firm flared out end. I sat on a bike in the shop- rode it on a trainer for 5 minutes and realised that I could not feel the saddle. No pain - no discomfort and No gel on it. That was the flight Titanium. I now ride the same saddle shape but the Max flow version. It has a cutaway and a little bit of gell, but that is on the MTB. The road bike has a similar shaped saddle and it is fine. The Tandem has an armchair fitted in comparison. Far wider- some padding and it is comfortable - on the Tandem. On the T I sit a bit more upright and for longer, but this saddle will not work on the other bikes.
So if you are having saddle problems- Try as many of your mates saddles as you can and sit on the bikes in your LBS- just to see if the different saddles work for you. Only thing is when you find a saddle that works- Buy another one as when you wear the one that works out- It will no longer be made.
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