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msheron
01-21-07, 12:20 PM
I have heard that Starbuck's in some form or fashion has taken a stance as to not support American troops. Not the war which I think we all have varying views on but our fellow brother and sisters who have no choice but to do what is asked.

Anyone know whether this is a confirmed rumor or just a vicious rumor by those who hate Starbuck's?

I like Starbuck's coffee and I like Port City Java and all of them really but since there are 4 Starbuck's in my town they are easy to find. But if they publicly have no support for our troops regardless of their view of the war I will no longer give my money to them.


lyeinyoureye
01-21-07, 12:27 PM
Yes, they hate them and want to eat their brains. But, it's o.k. because they're zombies. No need to be bigoted about this...

eubi
01-21-07, 12:36 PM
Check for yourself:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/starbucks.asp


DannoXYZ
01-21-07, 12:36 PM
What do you mean by "support the troops"? By sending over millions of lattés everyday? What about Dell, Cisco, Gateway, IBM, Safeway, Nabisco, Kraft Foods, Sears, WalMart, Trek, Cannondale, Giant, Arco, Albertsons, Target, Kmart, Home Depot, Costco, Metropolitan Theatres, Wherehouse, Borders, Barnes & Nobles, etc.? Do we have any proof that they "support the troops"? If not proven to be true, then should we boycott all those brands as well?

It was actually Haliburton that's been overcharging the U.S. Gov. (and us) for all the supplies Iraq.

probable556
01-21-07, 01:05 PM
Anyone know whether this is a confirmed rumor or just a vicious rumor by those who hate Starbuck's?

I am more likely to believe that the Nigerian who sent me the email promising me a millions of dollars if I help him transfer it out of the country.

rule
01-21-07, 01:26 PM
My wife is a USO volunteer at DFW airport. Starbucks has done a ton of stuff for the returning and departing troops out there. Anywhere in the country, particularly where there are military personnel, you can leave a $20 gift card at the register and ask them to use it cover their purchases. They will typically do it with no questions asked. Many times when I have done it, they have comp'd my order as well.

msheron
01-22-07, 06:41 AM
Well thanks for the posts.......I had heard that they were for non support of the troops rather than the war. I respect one's view and why they don't support the reason we are there as long as they know the troops have no choice.

Thanks rule for giving the most respected and not a kick in the arse response. I viewed this rumor I heard as very close to me since I have many friends in the service and have served and while we may not like the reasons we are doing what we do as a country........don't let that influence your thoughts of our soldiers.

So thanks rule................and eubi for the link.

Mods.......you may close this thread if you like.

HAMMER MAN
01-22-07, 07:25 AM
My wife is a USO volunteer at DFW airport. Starbucks has done a ton of stuff for the returning and departing troops out there. Anywhere in the country, particularly where there are military personnel, you can leave a $20 gift card at the register and ask them to use it cover their purchases. They will typically do it with no questions asked. Many times when I have done it, they have comp'd my order as well.


bless your wife for her volunteer work with the USO and our Armed Forces.

rule
01-22-07, 08:31 AM
Heh...she's the goods. She coordinates on the outbound flights, Operation Send-Off, as there are always plenty of volunteers to welcome the troops back but a lot fewer to be there to see them off. My seven year-old goes with her a bunch too. He's amassing quite a shoulder patch collection, and has email buddies all over Iraq and Afghanistan. When one of those soldiers reaches up, rips a patch right off his or her uniform and hands it to my son it's a hoot to watch his expression.

From what we have seen, our troops are some of the sharpest, smartest and motivated folks you could find anywhere. They are definitely worth the effort. ;)

SaabFan
01-22-07, 08:32 AM
The rumor was probably started by a bunch of emo kids who are upset their crummy local coffee shop is being overrun by normal people who were introduced to proper coffee by Starbucks.

msheron
01-22-07, 08:34 AM
The rumor was probably started by a bunch of emo kids who are upset their crummy local coffee shop is being overrun by normal people who were introduced to proper coffee by Starbucks.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Johnny_Monkey
01-22-07, 10:05 AM
proper coffee by Starbucks.

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Maelstrom
01-22-07, 11:16 AM
proper coffee by Starbucks.


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Ya...thats it. Proper coffee haha

caloso
01-22-07, 11:22 AM
"Proper coffee at Starbucks...."

Funniest thing I've read on BF in awhile.

SaabFan
01-22-07, 11:29 AM
Laugh it up. Go ahead. Before Starbucks, ALL I could get within two hours' drive of my house was 7-11 crap, save for one or two dingy, poorly staffed coffee houses being run by kids who didn't know a tamper from a meat mallet. Now, there's half a dozen good places within 20 minutes. Not all Starbucks franchises mind you, but their arrival did more to promote coffee than anything else ever has.

DannoXYZ
01-22-07, 11:57 AM
Starbucks actually makes very consitent coffee worldwide. That in itself is a logistical miracle. Although a lot of it is just coffee-flavored milkshakes, they're really not that bad. Beats 70-80% of the coffee-shops around. I prefer Jeanine's around here, better selection of pastries. :)

Johnny_Monkey
01-22-07, 12:01 PM
Starbucks actually makes very consitent coffee worldwide. That in itself is a logistical miracle. Although a lot of it is just coffee-flavored milkshakes, they're really not that bad. Beats 70-80% of the coffee-shops around. I prefer Jeanine's around here, better selection of pastries. :)


The problem with Starbucks coffee is that it is very weak. Except in Australia which is, presumably, because they have to make it similar to the local coffee. Our local Starbucks's are not very clean either.

Caffe Nero seems to be the best chain here.

DannoXYZ
01-22-07, 12:05 PM
yeah, unfortunately, Americans have a bland palate. A lot of foods are flavorless and bland; people are afraid of spices and seasoning. I think that's partly why we have such an obesity epidemic; people have to eat so much of bland food that only volume gives the sensation that you've eaten anything at all. Same goes for the lightly colored water many consider "coffee" here.

Johnny_Monkey
01-22-07, 03:21 PM
yeah, unfortunately, Americans have a bland palate. A lot of foods are flavorless and bland; people are afraid of spices and seasoning. I think that's partly why we have such an obesity epidemic; people have to eat so much of bland food that only volume gives the sensation that you've eaten anything at all. Same goes for the lightly colored water many consider "coffee" here.


It's funny you should say that because my overwhelming impression of American food was that it was bland.

randya
01-22-07, 03:28 PM
the 'original claim' in the write up at Snopes said the marines were 'trying to score some coffee grounds'. I don't know about y'all, but to me coffee grounds is 'already used coffee'...

:rolleyes: ;)

msheron
01-22-07, 04:44 PM
the 'original claim' in the write up at Snopes said the marines were 'trying to score some coffee grounds'. I don't know about y'all, but to me coffee grounds is 'already used coffee'...

:rolleyes: ;)

They are big tough Marines......

Mr. Gear Jammer
01-22-07, 05:52 PM
My wife is a USO volunteer at DFW airport. Starbucks has done a ton of stuff for the returning and departing troops out there. Anywhere in the country, particularly where there are military personnel, you can leave a $20 gift card at the register and ask them to use it cover their purchases. They will typically do it with no questions asked. Many times when I have done it, they have comp'd my order as well.

That is nice to know Rule:D .

iamlucky13
01-23-07, 12:12 AM
Snopes to the rescue. Thanks for the link Eubi.

I can't remember if I've ever had Starbucks coffee. I had a cup from some kind of shop once, and I liked the stuff out of the office coffee maker quite a bit better. It's pretty consistent, except when somebody makes a pot of double strength without marking it.

I could never justify $3 for 12 oz. I have a hard enough time paying $2.58 for 128 oz of black gold.

DannoXYZ
01-23-07, 12:43 AM
I miss when Nordstroms had coffee for $0.25 in their café...

gcl8a
01-23-07, 01:18 AM
I could never justify $3 for 12 oz. I have a hard enough time paying $2.58 for 128 oz of black gold.

Ha. I never touched the stuff ... until they gave it a fancy Italian-sounding name and started charging me $3.50 for it. Now i can't get enough.

True story: I went into a local coffe shop in Charlottesville on a hot summer's day (Cafe Cubano...nice place). The guy in front of me ordered an iced-mocha. When it got to my turn, I ask for a mocha latte and Tony asks if I want it on ice.

"Ice in one's coffee is an abomination," I steadfastly declare.

"Ha. So true," replies after Tony. And then, after the perfect pause he adds, "Some say the same about chocolate."

Dogbait
01-23-07, 01:19 AM
Laugh it up. Go ahead. Before Starbucks, ALL I could get within two hours' drive of my house was 7-11 crap, save for one or two dingy, poorly staffed coffee houses being run by kids who didn't know a tamper from a meat mallet. Now, there's half a dozen good places within 20 minutes. Not all Starbucks franchises mind you, but their arrival did more to promote coffee than anything else ever has.

Thanks for reminding me how bad things are in the coffee deficient parts of the country. In my little town of 5700, there are three coffee emporiums where one can go inside, get a properly made coffee, sit at a table, eat a pastry, read a free paper and use the free wi-fi. In addition, there are four more drive-ups. Fortunately, there is but one Starbucks and it is the most recent arrival... a walk-up cart in the super market.

There were successful small custom roasters in NW Portland long before the arrival of Starbucks.

botto
01-23-07, 04:17 AM
I have heard that Starbuck's in some form or fashion has taken a stance as to not support American troops. Not the war which I think we all have varying views on but our fellow brother and sisters who have no choice but to do what is asked.

Anyone know whether this is a confirmed rumor or just a vicious rumor by those who hate Starbuck's?

I like Starbuck's coffee and I like Port City Java and all of them really but since there are 4 Starbuck's in my town they are easy to find. But if they publicly have no support for our troops regardless of their view of the war I will no longer give my money to them.

why would a company that charged paramedics 130$ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,558564,00.html) for bottled water so they could treat victims on 9/11 not support the USA?

gcl8a
01-23-07, 06:25 AM
why would a company that charged paramedics 130$ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,558564,00.html) for bottled water so they could treat victims on 9/11 not support the USA?

In Starbucks' defense, not that they need it, they can't control the daily actions of a foolish manager (although some claim they were slow to undo his mistake).

That said, I don't understand why the paramedics didn't just go to the Starbucks right around the corner.

botto
01-23-07, 06:36 AM
In Starbucks' defense, not that they need it, they can't control the daily actions of a foolish manager (although some claim they were slow to undo his mistake).

That said, I don't understand why the paramedics didn't just go to the Starbucks right around the corner.

my feelings on that whole matter was that it was probably symptamatic of the company, not the individual. regardless, it left its mark on me.

i've only been to starbucks a few times: when i was in korea, because the coffee was sh1t; and on various trips to the UK, because the coffee is sh1t.