Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - fragment design?

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fixedgnar
01-24-07, 05:32 PM
anyone have any info on this bike? just saw it on some sneakerhead site.

http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/L1000646.jpg


jamey
01-24-07, 05:39 PM
looks pretty nice. good color scheme.

b-ride
01-24-07, 05:42 PM
nice. me like. at least, from that picture.


dutret
01-24-07, 05:50 PM
looks pretty nice. good color scheme.

I would hope so since my guess is that "fragment design" has nothing to do with bikes expect for hipster who likes trackbikes and designed some color schemes.

The cf is probably a bridgestone with a fork said hipster preferred to the aero one. Nothing that aero comes with a fork like that. Nagasawa maybe for the other? Some lug fetishist can probably say better.

Fatlace
01-24-07, 05:57 PM
The bike is a custom repaint off a look bike (the big carbon one) minus the forks which is something else (i think).. not sure and the other is a cinelli repaint. He has a black carbon just like the white one. Fragment is my friends design company. I'm sure he'll stick these on his wall or possibly ride it. Who knows. He has a ton of other bikes so these were just made just to make em. Theyre in Tokyo btw.. harajuku to be exact.

More photos of this bike are on my site, fatlace.com (http://fatlace.com/)

http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/hf_look.jpg
http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/hf_track.jpg

geist
01-24-07, 06:14 PM
Great looking frames but re-badging a Look? Blasphemy!

dutret
01-24-07, 06:15 PM
It is almost assuredly a bridgestone/anchor not a look.

b-ride
01-24-07, 10:05 PM
The bike is a custom repaint off a look bike (the big carbon one) minus the forks which is something else (i think).. not sure and the other is a cinelli repaint.
http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/hf_look.jpg
http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/hf_track.jpg


It is almost assuredly a bridgestone/anchor not a look.

see above. carbon frame = look. other frame = cinelli.

autostrada048
01-24-07, 10:13 PM
YAWN.

Hiroshi Fujiwara design Yawnn...

http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/L1000677.jpg

number18
01-24-07, 10:13 PM
see above. carbon frame = look. other frame = cinelli.

uh, that looks a lot like this anchor...

http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/bstone_red_sprint.jpg
http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/phm9blk-bl2.jpg

dutret FTW

Kilgore_Trout
01-24-07, 10:14 PM
oooh i want the carbon fiber one!

Learn_not2burn
01-24-07, 10:14 PM
see above. carbon frame = look. other frame = cinelli.

It is not a LOOK frame. It is indeed a bridgestone/anchor. The stock bridgestone/anchor paint jobs is one of the best in the biz. shame to see it go.

Edit: number 18 beat me to it as I was typing up my post.

b-ride
01-24-07, 10:18 PM
well, i guess i just figured siince fatlace knows the guy that repainted them, his friend would actually know what frames he repainted. nevermind then. i'm not a frame geek. i just ride 'em.

Fugazi Dave
01-24-07, 11:05 PM
It is not a LOOK frame. It is indeed a bridgestone/anchor.

+1 Just look at where the seatstays meet the seat tube - absolutely nothing like the Look, which I'm assuming people are thinking is the KG 496:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1562/look496triathlon4zt.jpg

Totally different frame design, and the fork is NOT swappable with something else. Consider also the seatpost binder bolt hole, dropouts, and rear wheel cutout on the Bridgestone.

In short, it's a Bridgestone/Anchor. Case closed.

shogun17
01-24-07, 11:24 PM
+1 Just look at where the seatstays meet the seat tube - absolutely nothing like the Look, which I'm assuming people are thinking is the KG 496:


Totally different frame design, and the fork is NOT swappable with something else. Consider also the seatpost binder bolt hole, dropouts, and rear wheel cutout on the Bridgestone.

In short, it's a Bridgestone/Anchor. Case closed.

Yup. The fragment frame has HORIZONTAL dropouts. and a non-integrated fork.

Fugazi Dave
01-24-07, 11:46 PM
The fragment frame has HORIZONTAL dropouts.

Note that track and TT versions of the KG496 differ only very slightly. Couldn't find a picture of the track version. My point was that the Bridgestone and the "Fragment" have the same dropouts, among other features.

shogun17
01-24-07, 11:49 PM
Note that track and TT versions of the KG496 differ only very slightly. Couldn't find a picture of the track version. My point was that the Bridgestone and the "Fragment" have the same dropouts, among other features.

Nitpicking. They are basically the same except for different dropouts glued in the back. (maybe geometry but I can't be arsed looking at $10,000 frames when my race bike is worth $2000 and my fixie is worth nothing (financially, but it has a special place in my heart :p )

Fatlace
01-25-07, 01:59 AM
Sorry for the confusion.. I just said it was a look cause he has another look in his office that kinda looked the same so I just said it was a look.

LóFarkas
01-25-07, 02:09 AM
I sort of envy that guy a little... with a LOOK and a Bridgstone kicking around in his office.

BTW, hot paintjobs.

Momentum
01-25-07, 03:14 AM
Repainting a Cinelli seems at least as blasphemous as repainting a Bridgestone. Although they both look quite cool

LóFarkas
01-25-07, 03:34 AM
Unsure about the Cinelli but the Anchor/Bridgestone is a repulsive paintjob so it was high time somebody corrected it.

manboy
01-25-07, 10:04 AM
Oh, oh, I want to have a design company so I can find random things, spraypaint them white, and put my company's name on them.

You guys should check out the Manboy Design half-crushed PBR can and dead cactus.

Fatlace
01-25-07, 10:52 AM
When someone paints their bike and put their logo's own it, it calls for sarcasm? Weird.. didn't you paint your bike. lol.. No wonder why I stopped going to this forum.. cause tons of people think their kerin bike makes them famous. it's the rider, not the bike.



YAWN.

Hiroshi Fujiwara design Yawnn...

http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/L1000677.jpg

Rattlebag
01-25-07, 11:01 AM
What are all these funny looking bikes with no brakes?

autostrada048
01-25-07, 11:42 AM
When someone paints their bike and put their logo's own it, it calls for sarcasm? Weird.. didn't you paint your bike. lol.. No wonder why I stopped going to this forum.. cause tons of people think their kerin bike makes them famous. it's the rider, not the bike.
Whoa Whoa i didnt mean to start anything..... and it wasnt a keirin bike that i had powder coated it was a gitane... I've got nothing but love for you fatlace.

BTW I love HF.. he always does something different.
http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/R0013736.jpg
http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/R0013715.jpg
http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/R0013521.jpg

dutret
01-25-07, 11:45 AM
http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/R0013521.jpg


Wow this beats even that absurd mash cf gan well disaster as the single most stupid track bike I have ever seen.

EDIT: the more I look at this the worse it seems. What is wrong with the ****up who made this beyond clearly having too much money?

Fatlace
01-25-07, 11:59 AM
amended.. :)

yeah, i seen that gitane you repainted. its a very nice color


Whoa Whoa i didnt mean to start anything..... and it wasnt a keirin bike that i had powder coated it was a gitane... I've got nothing but love for you fatlace.

BTW I love HF.. he always does something different.

onetwentyeight
01-25-07, 12:05 PM
if i was gonna drop almost 4 grand on a carbon fiber frame just to respray it and hang it on the wall, i think i'd want to do something a little more exciting with the paintjob.

pitboss
01-25-07, 12:15 PM
Maybe HUF can do a repaint and make shoes to match!
You know, for the cycling community and all.

octopus magic
01-25-07, 12:15 PM
http://blog.honeyee.com/hf/archives/images/R0013521.jpg

Someone give me this look so i can give it a proper home.

Clips and straps on a Look carbon frame...

Also I'm glad your friend knows how to use the helvetica varients, but he can sure blow a lot of money proving he does.

autostrada048
01-25-07, 12:16 PM
amended.. :)

yeah, i seen that gitane you repainted. its a very nice color This ugly green thing??? HAHA all the indigo from my jeans got on my suede san marco seat...

http://i1.tinypic.com/44grbyh.jpg

onetwentyeight
01-25-07, 12:48 PM
']Maybe HUF can do a repaint and make shoes to match!
You know, for the cycling community and all.


where have you been, [165]...

http://www.bennygold.com/uploaded_images/HUFBIKE3.JPG-751542.jpg

killsurfcity
01-25-07, 01:42 PM
you think with all of huf's pull and bank he could come up with something better than a stencil font. and a poorly spaced one at that. of course most good designers wouldn't touch this hip-hop hot topic **** with a ten foot pole, so it stands to reason.

na975
01-25-07, 01:51 PM
that's some bike shop ^^^

juvi-kyle
01-25-07, 01:53 PM
Wow this beats even that absurd mash cf gan well disaster as the single most stupid track bike I have ever seen.
eat a dick baby!

juvi-kyle
01-25-07, 01:53 PM
']Maybe HUF can do a repaint and make shoes to match!
You know, for the cycling community and all.
and you are just clownin!

dutret
01-25-07, 01:56 PM
eat a dick baby!

Which montrosity of moronic conspicous consumption are you trying to defend?

juvi-kyle
01-25-07, 01:59 PM
Which montrosity of moronic conspicous consumption are you trying to defend?
A bike is a ****in bike...let who ever ride it how ever they want. And I am pretty sure that MASH bike cost less than most of the bikes on this forum. There is nothing moronic about a good deal. ****in clowns...I tell you.

autostrada048
01-25-07, 02:03 PM
Damn a lot of people on here hate a lot....

Wheres the love at???

juvi-kyle
01-25-07, 02:09 PM
I just hate the hater not the game...

onetwentyeight
01-25-07, 02:09 PM
so whos gonna make the ad busters black dot fixed gear?

dutret
01-25-07, 02:12 PM
Damn a lot of people on here hate a lot....

Wheres the love at???

who loves a ****up who takes a $10,000 frame and puts ****ty parts on it and(probably) doesn't even ride it much and definitely not in a situation where a $10,000 frame would be useful.


Juvi- If he got a good deal he could have sold it. Riding it around to do bar spins and whatever other boring tricks are in this week is ****ing moronic. A stiff frame with tiny risers and clips is pointless. Same goes for the wheel(although if it is just a fancy looking peice of **** not so much).

It's all more pointless then the non-racing roadie on the madone. At least they are benefiting from their ostentation in some small sense.

dutret
01-25-07, 02:13 PM
I just hate the hater not the game...

If the game is making a bike more wasteful to show how much money you have to blow on **** then I hate both the game and the ****** bags stupid enough to become players in it.

pitboss
01-25-07, 02:39 PM
Some people choose function, some choose fashion - and others find something in between. Riding for fun it what matters most. And I guess it is true that fun sometimes mean buying the most expensive thing you can find and flaunting it - for some people.

I love pretty bikes. Who doesn't?

Let's face it - the whole "track bikes on the street" makes little sense anyways. Fun as hell, but makes little sense.
And don't bother with the "zen/less likely to be stolen/cheaper/safer/been doing it for years" arguments. I love it, but it does not make sense.

dutret
01-25-07, 02:43 PM
but do you think that look is a "pretty bike"?

pitboss
01-25-07, 02:54 PM
I said nothing - I stated a position without example as everyone's definition of beauty will more than likely be different. You are trying to contain a nebulous idea, something I struggled with also. I know what I like. I like the way the new Cramerotti's and Cinelli's look. And the Pista Concepts, also. The paint jobs on the Keirin bikes are incredibly alluring. Am I down with someone repainting a bike and putting their own slogan or whatever on it - I could care less. I think it is a bit ridiculous to advertise a "self" brand name for the sake of "promotion" in what now appears to be a trackbike-choked city (SF) as far as clique-y-ness and that like. But I am far away from that silliness. It is not my thing. When it went from enjoying a bike to flaunting it, that got old fast.

The real cyclists remain. The others, well...we shall buy their parts at severely discounted prices.

juvi-kyle
01-25-07, 03:45 PM
dutret is a clown...that is my postion!

sloppy robot
01-25-07, 04:00 PM
awesome.. i havent been here in forever and this place hasnt changed a bit!

dudeman
01-25-07, 06:14 PM
dutret is a clown...that is my postion!
i'm with ya on that one.

dutret
01-25-07, 06:27 PM
dutret is a clown...that is my postion!


Yes and trackasaurus highlights the most despicable aspects of fixed gear culture. There is little I despise more then status symbols and those that strive for them. Hipsters who where punk a few years ago and still ***** about capatalism and coorperations while they exhibit the worst type consumerist values are one of them. Honestly I don't know if Juvi fits into that category or what percent of the mashsf ****ups do. However my experience is that a pretty large percent of sneaker *****s do an the intersection of sneaker *****s and fixed gear enthusiasts is almost entirely populated by these hypocritical self righteous ****s. Whether they do or not doing stupid **** like riding around on a HED(no matter how much you paid for it) is just as ****ed as the dip**** suburbanite with a suburban and a 6000sq foot house full of rooms that don't get used. The motivation is the same and thats probably where they will end up in a dozen years if they can afford it. They have already demonstrated that the alter of conspicuous consumption is worth sacrificing most of their money and therefore time at.