Touring - Schwalbe Big Apples and fenders 700cc
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01-24-07, 06:57 PM
I am looking for new tires and I'm liking the wide and soft approach as my touring bike doubles as a commuter and between the two of these i hit some bad roads. Just wondering if anyone is running these with fenders, and which fenders are they? i have planet bike hardcore 45mm, but those tires are wider, though i might be able to sneak em in there? by the way i'm referencing the 700cc/29"size x 2.00". also if anyone knows how tall they are. thanks!
If you want full fenders, I quite like the flat ones, like those made out of wood, good coverage, and they don't care about tire contour or size as long as there is a gap for them to fit into the fork or stays. Pretty easy to make your own.
I've never run the big apples, but i have run 1.95 slicks for comuting. I don't feel the need for them on a touring bike because the load seems to hold the frame to the road a little better and I find the rolling resistence is much higher. Don't see why you shouldn't if you want to, though.
01-25-07, 12:23 AM
making my own might be an option. i guess its just a couple lamanated strips eh? I like the i dea of the balloon tyre type cushion, becuase i've found with my weight 250lbs, plus some gear, i need to keep high pressure in my 32c's so i don't pinchflat, but it can be a bit jarring. the aluminun frame doesnt help much either...
Exactly, or you can hot bend solid wood. You can bend too thin strips and them glass them, lots of options.
01-25-07, 07:27 AM
Tire height varies by tire model/brand. Your height maximum depends on fork/dropout clearance. Between the two of these factors, you just need to try different tires. Perhaps going to a cooperative LBS...
A Mutanoraptor 1.85" 700C barely squeezes between my front forks and works as long as I don't mind repainting where rocks chip the paint. And that's without fenders. With 50 mm SKS fenders, 35 mm (actually 37mm) Schwalbe XR's work fine, but 37mm (actually 37mm) Continental Top Tourers are almost too tall. You just need to try different tires to find one that works...
01-25-07, 08:11 AM
If you want wood fenders, check out http://woodysfenders.com. He's also on eBay. I have a set, and I love them! He has a pair (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wood-Bicycle-Fenders-21-2-Wide-Wenge-w-Curving-stripe_W0QQitemZ230081490048QQihZ013QQcategoryZ106945QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) for big tires like the Big Apple, and well, they're huge! I agree that having flat fenders will accept wider tires than contoured. My experience with flat shaped fenders is get them wider than a contoured fender. Given the same width, the flat ones don't "contain" the slop as well. Wood fenders are definitely better looking!
Planet Bike has the new Cascadias (http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7029.html), if you prefer. Now the question is, can you fit Big Apples and fenders in your 700c frame?
01-25-07, 12:28 PM
well, i've taken some measurement, and granted that i did them right it shouldn't be a problem.. maybe i'll try to find a schwalbe dealer near me to see. Or if they dont fit i can just put them on the karate monkey commuter i'm planning on building this spring.
For making the fenders i just realized i can get the made for the cost of the wood. I work at British Columbia Institute of technology, a Polytech School that runs among other programs, a joinery program and they have a wood steamer thing and all that. I'll have to look in to that.
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