View Full Version : Critics Say Proposed Buffer Will Put Drivers In Harm's Way
alanfleisig
01-30-07, 10:44 AM
From yesterday's San Jose Mercury News:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/16570732.htm
Helmet Head
01-30-07, 11:00 AM
From yesterday's San Jose Mercury News:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/16570732.htm
Duplicate thread.
See: Now that's cool... (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=264681)
Reading that news story, it would appear that American cars don't have something we have as a standard feature on Australian cars, that feature being the 'brake pedal'. It's a really neat device. Give it a gentle push and the car slows down. It's very useful for doing things like ... waiting for a safe space to pass a cyclist.
Yeah, we have the same problem here dammit.
Richard
The objections sound very much like the original case brought against Daniel Cadden in the UK, who was charged with riding in such a way as to "force" drivers to cross the centreline in order to pass him. He was originally found guilty of riding improperly by a Judge Morgan ( who also absolved a police driver from any offence when he drove at speeds of up to 80mph in a 30 area and 150mph on a 70pmh limit motorway).
Fortunately, Daniel's appeal, funded in large part by a CTC appeal fund, was successful, andwe've all breathed a sigh of relief at sanity prevailing in the UK.
I do feel sorry for poor, helpless truck drivers, tho'. Fancy being forced to drive head on into approaching traffic. Perhaps US trucks are fixies and don't have front brakes.
What was Judge Moron's reason for finding Daniel guilty?
He hade the unmitigated gall to be riding on a 3-lane highway at about 30mph (or perhaps 20). There was only one lane his way, bounded by a solid white centre line. On the opposite sie of the road was a shared pedestrian/cycle path.
According to district Judge Morgan, he had no right to hold up motorists and should have crossed the 3 busy lanes to ride on the bike path. The total hold-up time over the short stretch of the road he was on was about 20/30 secs., max.
What made it worse was that the police changed the grounds on which he was charged and the Crown Prosecution Service clearly didn't have a clue, either. The guilty finding so outraged the cycling community that some £25,000 was raised, in a couple of weeks, for the CTC Cyclists' Defence Fund and Morgan's verdict and reasoning were comprehensively rejected by the Appeal court.
More details and comments can be found on http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/ in the campaign section.
Sometimes, my friends, the fates are kind
Ditto http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4774
Old Dirt Hill
02-02-07, 02:17 PM
I can't believe how ridiculous this article is. No, strike that - I can't believe how ridiculous some people in this country are.
Blue Order
02-02-07, 02:42 PM
These whiners are as much as admitting that they are violating the current law by making unsafe passes.
RomSpaceKnight
02-02-07, 05:45 PM
"``What happens when the bicycle comes up by you and gets too close to you,'' Broad said. ``What are you supposed to do, get a ticket?"
Or how about when we attempt to overtake a speeding car/truck on the right? How many watts must I put out or how many gear inches must I push to overtake cars?
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