01-31-07, 01:15 PM
I know little to nothing about road bikes. My youngest has grown up around 5 athletic siblings and has picked up the best from each of them. He is strong in the water, runs well for a 6 year old and is great on him MTB (40 miles rides in the summer are a weekly deal). He wants to step into a coulpe of junior Tris or duathalons as soon as we find ones for his age....
Stats- My son just turned 6, has a 58 cm inseam and is 52" tall. He averaged 85 miles a week on his MTB last summer (down to 20 miles on the trainer). We did take him to a local shop for fitting and he was well suited for the Specialized Allez with regards to step over, reach to the bars, etc.
In finding him a road bike for this coming spring, I realize how little we know.... We don't know anyone who can make comparisons on pluses and minuses of any of the below bikes and what might be a good value... Any guidance would be greatlyappreciated.
Models I could find for youths---
Specialized Allez Junior Double 24"--Can get for $550 locally
Pennarola Zircone--Can get for $700 shipped....international They offer a 22" model...I could not find any right ups on Pennarola
Felt F24--$650 shipped from within US
Trek KDR 1000 24"--$620 locally
Argon 18 D-2 24"--$450 shipped..International
01-31-07, 02:46 PM
What components are available on those bikes? You may also want to look at the Pinarello Kui.
02-01-07, 06:51 AM
Thanks for your thought....I will include the bikes and their equipment below
Specialized Allez Jr Dbl.$550
FORK Specialized FACT monocoque carbon fork legs, crown, and steerer with Zertz inserts
HEADSET Specialized Mindset Plus, 1 1/8" integrated threadless, sealed stainless steel cartridge bearings, carbon 20mm cone with two 5mm alloy spacers
STEM S-Works FACT carbon stem, magnesium face plate, 31.8mm clamp
HANDLEBARS S-Works FACT carbon aero handlebar, racing drop, ergo/aero shaping, 31.8mm clamp
TAPE Body Geometry Bar Phat, cork ribbon w/2.5mm gel padding
FRONT BRAKE Shimano Dura-Ace
REAR BRAKE Shimano Dura-Ace
BRAKE LEVERS Shimano Dura-Ace, 10-speed, STI, flight deck compatible
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano Dura-Ace, 31.8mm clamp, bottom pull
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano Dura-Ace, short cage
SHIFT LEVERS Shimano Dura-Ace, 10-speed, STI, flight deck compatible
CASSETTE Shimano Dura-Ace, 12-27t
CHAIN Shimano Dura-Ace, 10-speed
CRANKSET Shimano Dura-Ace, double crankset, Hollowtech II 2-piece design
BOTTOM BRACKET Shimano Dura-Ace, Hollowtech II
PEDALS Composite-body test ride pedals
RIMS Shimano Dura-Ace, sleeve-joint and machined aluminum rim, silver
FRONT HUB Shimano Dura-Ace, 16 hole, Shimano QR
REAR HUB Shimano Dura-Ace, 20 hole, aluminum freehub body, Shimano QR
SPOKES Stainless 14/15g butted aero
FRONT TIRE Specialized Mondo Pro, 700x23C, aramid bead, 120TPI
REAR TIRE Specialized Mondo Pro, 700x23C, aramid bead, 120TPI
TUBES Specialized standard presta tube, 0.9mm thickness
SADDLE Body Geometry Alias, carbon reinfoced base, hollow titanium rails, microfiber cover
SEAT POST Specialized Pavé FACT carbon seatpost with Zertz insert, 27.2mm
SEAT BINDER Specialized, forged/CNC, double wedge
Frame Alum.7005 Double butted Pennarola
Weight: 1.38 kg
Fork CR.MO. Pennarola
Painting Colours: Red or Yellow or Blue
Rims F.I.R. (Italia) 32 holes
Spokes Inox ACI (Alpina) Ø2mm
Inner tubes Cheng Shin (26“)
Paraniples Vittoria (26”)
Tires Vittoria Rubino (26”)
Vittoria Tubolar Juniores (22”/24”)
Stem Modolo (Italia) MO18
By choice: sizes 70/90/110
Handlebar Modolo (Italia) Venus
By choice : sizes 34/36/38/40
Tape Cork Pennarola
Seat post Aluminium Ø27.2
Saddle Selle Italia Junior
Mechanical Group Campagnolo: Xenon & Miche 9v
Pedals Not included
Hubs front./rear. Miche 32H
Rear Derailleur Campagnolo Xenon 9 speed
Front Derailleur Campagnolo Xenon 9 speed
Dual control lever Campagnolo Xenon Ergopower
Crank set Miche 125 35/39 (22”)
Miche 145 36/42 (24”)
Miche 165 38/44 (26”)
Bottom bracket Miche or VP
Sprokets Miche 17/25 – 9 speed
Brakes Miche Performance
Chain Miche 9 speed
SIZES 24" Wheel x 40cm
FRAME Felt F-Lite 7005 Alloy Frame, Butted Main Tubes with Forged Dropout & Replaceable Hanger.
FORK Carbon blades with 1-1/8" CrMo steerer and Alloy Crown
HEADSET Aheadset 1-1/8"
STEM FELT 1.2 6061 Alumnim 3D Forged with 7° Rise, 80cm
HANDLEBAR Felt Ø26mm 6061 Alloy with Ergonomic Drop, 26.0mm, 370mm
GRIPS: Felt Gel Ribbon Tape with FELT 3D Logo
SHIFTERS Shimano, 24 speed
F/DERAILLEUR Shimano Sora
R/DERAILLEUR Shimano Sora
CRANKSET Sugino XD-2200, 2-PC Alloy, 50/38T, 160mm
BB SET FSA Cartridge with CRMO JIS Spindle
CHAIN Z8 8-Speed
FREEWHEEL Shimano 8-Speed Cassette, 12-23T
BRAKE LEVERS Shimano Sora Dual Control w/Tektro top mount levers
BRAKES Dual Pivot, Cartridge Brake Shoes, Stainless Hardware and Teflon Bushings
SADDLE: Felt JR Racing
SEAT POST FELT Alloy Micro Adjust, 27.0mm, 250mm
F/HUB Felt sealed alloy QR
R/HUB Felt sealed alloy QR, cassette, black
RIMS 24 x 1" Alex w/CNC sides
TIRE 24 x 1" Kenda Koncept with Flat Protection
SPOKES Stainless 15G
PEDALS Dual Pedals, Alloy Clipless One Side Flat other Side
Argon 18 D-2---$480------Lite on information
Argon 18 offers small --but real-- racing bikes for small --but real-- budding athletes.
Geometry, crank length, components, all have been adapted in order to let tomorrow’s champs ride real race bikes today.
Color and frame Aluminum
Features Benefits Geometry
Thermo Tech 1005 Series aluminum frame
Light and stiff, enhances performance.
HDS design Optimally balanced rigidity, light weight and comfort. Increased stiffness of frame sections stressed by power transfer.
AFS design (for 650c or 24’’ wheels) Specially adapted geometry for kids.
Clip-and-strap pedals Require no special shoes.
Aluminum alloy crankset, stem, handlebar and seatpost
Cold-forged dropouts with replaceable derailleur hanger
Repairable in case of accident.
02-01-07, 06:59 AM
Personal preference would be the Specialized or the Felt, but that is mainly because I am very familiar with their adult bikes and the overall quality.
I doubt you are really getting all that Dura Ace for $550 on the Specialized. I would bet you have the wrong specs. If true, I am buying one!
02-02-07, 03:06 PM
Are you sure you are getting all Dura Ace on the Specialized???? Dura Ace is top of the line!
Where is this Specialized for sale? If this is for real, I'm going to buy one (or three!) just for the DA bits and throw the frame out by the curb!
look for a cycling club with a bunch of juniors. I have heard that clubs like this try to pass bikes around since these kids outgrow them so quick.
02-03-07, 09:49 AM
At the rate kids grow, definately check out the club angle; as for a new purchase, ask him what color he wants.... these things are important to 6 year olds!
02-05-07, 07:28 AM
Thanks for all of the advice. I will digest these and make a move.