[Dr.Deltron]

First let me say, I have been painting my own bikes since I was a kid. And (eegad!) that was nearly 40 years ago! I have always been a do-it-yourself'r and always wanted to do the best I could do myself.
Turns out, alot about a great paintjob has to do with the materials used.
And prep for said materials!

I have done some whacky rattle can jobs that looked great!...after 6 months of cure time!:eek:
Next I got a compressor & spray gun and airbrush. And I moved to the quick dry versatility of laquer, only to find it falls off when you sneeze at it!:rolleyes:

Then a friend gave me some Deltron (2 part paint made by PPG, similar to DuPont Imron)
WOW!...WOW!! Amazing stuff! Just what I had been looking for, paint that rivaled factory finishes!

So I "hung out a shingle" and started Ideal Bicycle Painting. circa 1987.

And now, after a nearly decade long hiatus to change diapers, I am available to apply the utmost in paint finishes to your favorite frame. Prices start at a no-frills
single color with clear...$300
Add decals and clear....$500+
Lug masking/panels......$700+

This is exponetialy higher than rattle-canning it youself. Which, BTW, can be a lot of fun! That's how I started out.;)

Thing is, I use very expensive top quality automotive paints. And have years of experience applying it to bicycles. But I'm just one guy. So it can sometimes take awhile. And if you have the budget and dare to challenge some pretty stinky fumes, you too can spray with auto paint.

PRICE BREAKDOWN for DIY auto paint a bicycle frame. Prices are for smallest available amount.

Sandblast frame................... $25

Primer (PPG)
DPLF 48......................QT... $43
DP 402........................QT...$35
DT 870........................QT...$16

Color (Sikkens)
309D5..........................PT...$87
Reducer.......................QT...$45

Clear (PPG)
2042...........................QT...$54
Hardener.................1/2 PT...$30

TOTAL materials..................$335

Or, for $300, I could spray it for you!
You get all that experience for less than the price of materials!;)

Just thought I'd throw that out there, good painting/riding weather fast approaches!


...and my next thread will walk you through rattle-can success!:D

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[evwxxx]

Ok, good Dr, I appreciate your candor. But, and don't take this wrong, is it really $200 more effort to apply decals and clear over them? Just seems a bit much, and would logically vary by how many decals, where located, decal material, etc? Just wondering!

[John E]

I have splurged on only one professional paintjob and would recommend doing so only for a truly valuable or unique frame, not something like a Peugeot UO-8. The cost was roughly in line with Dr. D's price list, if one adjusts backward 3 years for ensuing inflation, but the result is absolutely stunning, and I have never regretted spending the money. (The fiscal stereotypes regarding Scots and people of Scots descent are 100% true in my case! :) )

[nlerner]

I have splurged on only one professional paintjob and would recommend doing so only for a truly valuable or unique frame, not something like a Peugeot UO-8. The cost was roughly in line with Dr. D's price list, if one adjusts backward 3 years for ensuing inflation, but the result is absolutely stunning, and I have never regretted spending the money. (The fiscal stereotypes regarding Scots and people of Scots descent are 100% true in my case! :) )

That is a beautiful paint job, John. I have to make sure my Capo doesn't see it ;) .

Neal

[TBART]

First let me say, I have been painting my own bikes since I was a kid. And (eegad!) that was nearly 40 years ago! I have always been a do-it-yourself'r and always wanted to do the best I could do myself.
Turns out, alot about a great paintjob has to do with the materials used.
And prep for said materials!

I have done some whacky rattle can jobs that looked great!...after 6 months of cure time!:eek:
Next I got a compressor & spray gun and airbrush. And I moved to the quick dry versatility of laquer, only to find it falls off when you sneeze at it!:rolleyes:

Then a friend gave me some Deltron (2 part paint made by PPG, similar to DuPont Imron)
WOW!...WOW!! Amazing stuff! Just what I had been looking for, paint that rivaled factory finishes!

So I "hung out a shingle" and started Ideal Bicycle Painting. circa 1987.

And now, after a nearly decade long hiatus to change diapers, I am available to apply the utmost in paint finishes to your favorite frame. Prices start at a no-frills
single color with clear...$300
Add decals and clear....$500+
Lug masking/panels......$700+

This is exponetialy higher than rattle-canning it youself. Which, BTW, can be a lot of fun! That's how I started out.;)

Thing is, I use very expensive top quality automotive paints. And have years of experience applying it to bicycles. But I'm just one guy. So it can sometimes take awhile. And if you have the budget and dare to challenge some pretty stinky fumes, you too can spray with auto paint.

PRICE BREAKDOWN for DIY auto paint a bicycle frame. Prices are for smallest available amount.

Sandblast frame................... $25

Primer (PPG)
DPLF 48......................QT... $43
DP 402........................QT...$35
DT 870........................QT...$16

Color (Sikkens)
309D5..........................PT...$87
Reducer.......................QT...$45

Clear (PPG)
2042...........................QT...$54
Hardener.................1/2 PT...$30

TOTAL materials..................$335

Or, for $300, I could spray it for you!
You get all that experience for less than the price of materials!;)

Just thought I'd throw that out there, good painting/riding weather fast approaches!


...and my next thread will walk you through rattle-can success!:D

This looks like an advertisement.

[cyclotoine]

Ok, good Dr, I appreciate your candor. But, and don't take this wrong, is it really $200 more effort to apply decals and clear over them? Just seems a bit much, and would logically vary by how many decals, where located, decal material, etc? Just wondering!

Most likely it is the cost of the decals. 531 decal set plus decal for whole bike can end up putting you close to $100 or more depending on who is making them. If Dr.D has to do the art that is another thing, then I believe you need multiple clears with wet sanding in between so you cannot feel the ridge of the decal but it just feels smooth.

[top506]

This is a pretty good plug for CycleArt and Airglow, as they both undercut you by a good margin.
Must be the economies of scale for a large pro shop.
Top

[Dirtdrop]

There's no way I'm going to pay you $500 to paint my Peugeot if I supply the decals!

[lotek]

I don't see it as advertisement, more like lets discuss prices.

I've had one frame painted professionally, that being my Pogliaghi. I supplied the decals
and therefore the cost of decals was not added into the total.
My painter was cheaper that Dr D. but only by $50 for the base prices.

My take on this is that I cherish my rides, I have no problem with buying $140 worth
of tubulars for my bike. Why should the cost of 4 tires plus change seem out of line
for something that is going to last a lot longer than tires?

Marty

[Otis]

This looks like an advertisement.

And not to be a dick, but there's lots of good painters out there in this price range that are always too busy to have to bother with advertising. Let alone freebie pleas for biz on a public forum.

Show your work, not material cost. That's what sells paint jobs.

[SingleSpeeDemon]

Show your work, not material cost. That's what sells paint jobs.

Yep! Pics please.

[Joe Gardner]

Moved to the advertise your services forum.

[The Figment]

Yo,Dr D...Wadda charge for Stick Faces? That Gargoyle is PHAT!! For those wanting pic's of Dr D's work...

[Dr.Deltron]

What a quaint thread...:rolleyes:

Funny what can happen in a year...;)