Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - good rims for the street?

so with the new IRO coming in the mail one day i'll obviously be looking for some new wheels and i wanted suggestions. i have deep-v's and i think i'm over them and their weight. beyond "mavic open pros, they are the best thing since sliced bread" what are some other good rims to consider for street use? thanks.

aerohead.

CXP33 are nice too.

Ambrosio make a nice deep-section rim.

Anything Velocity will be fine. Mavics OPs or the new Open Sport (replacement for the MA3?) would be fine. Deals can be had on some of the lesser known stuff but you can go wrong with either of the above.

if you have the money... open pros.
If you don't some other mavics.

velocities rims are way overpriced for what they are. they only reason to get them is if you care more about color then quality.

32h Sun Assault semi aero rims (what my lbs guy recommended for my budget) are holding up nicely for me through moderate abuse.

CXP33 are nice too.


had a pair...they're pretty nice. but i did have to true them more than my deep v's. ymmv.

if you have the money... open pros.
If you don't some other mavics.

velocities rims are way overpriced for what they are. they only reason to get them is if you care more about color then quality.

guess messengers only care about color then? lol







/endsarcasm.

Aeroheads are nice for the money.
I like the looks of the DT Swiss RR 1.1 and 1.2 rims.

beyond "mavic open pros, they are the best thing since sliced bread"

Wait...... "Mavic Open Pros get rave reviews and everyone seems to love them so could you suggest something else?" ... I don't get it. There's a reason people flock to them. Outside of the hyper-rims that cost as much as most entire bikes, they seem to be the benchmark against which others are compared.

Though I understand not wanting what everyone else on the road has. I should shut up now since I have no other suggestions for you. Both my road bikes have Open Pros and I love them..

After trying to bunnyhop a huge pothole on my Surly and coming a few inches short when the rear tire smacked the far edge of the pothole VERY hard as I came back down, I've been a big fan. I heard the noise that was made when it crunched into the jagged pavement.. and then I saw the very small amount of damage that was done and has since been easily fixed. Woohoo! Open Pros 4 lyfe, son.

mavic anything will be fine why do you think they are the biggest manufacturer of bicycle rims in the world

700c Sun CR18. Cheap, stiff, nuke-proof.

guess messengers only care about color then? lol

I'm sure a fair number of them do. There are some who ride with track drops and that sure is hell isn't done for anything beyond aesthetics. Others may have been swayed by the velocity fanboys that don't understand that everything technical about a mavic of equivalent price is better except the color.

I ride track drops and a zero drop stem and actually use the other hand positions I have really long ogre arms so it works out fine

but I am a huge fan of mavic their machine built wheels are insanely sturdy I have a set of mavic elipses I ride on the street and I am 220# alot of my friends love their machien built wheels for cross and dh sturdy and relatively inexpensive for the price

I'm sure a fair number of them do. There are some who ride with track drops and that sure is hell isn't done for anything beyond aesthetics. Others may have been swayed by the velocity fanboys that don't understand that everything technical about a mavic of equivalent price is better except the color.

i was one swept by the allure of velocity(but im a commuter/avid rider); half for the durabilty aspect, half for aestetics. i have a pair of open pros i will build up that are collecting dust, but i will put them on Old Davy. comparably though wouldn't the deeps be a stronger match for rough streets like NY?

Where is the velocity hate from?
Mavic has had some QC complaints in the last few years (cracked eyelets, pinging sound at the joint). I haven't heard much bad about Velocity, but then again they don't have anywhere near the number of rims on the street that Mavic does. Velocity is also known for having great customer service, and building high quality wheels in their US factory.

I love my deep v's, sure they don't look too sleek, but they are durable and ride well. thats important in nyc

Where is the velocity hate from?
Mavic has had some QC complaints in the last few years (cracked eyelets, pinging sound at the joint). I haven't heard much bad about Velocity, but then again they don't have anywhere near the number of rims on the street that Mavic does. Velocity is also known for having great customer service, and building high quality wheels in their US factory.


Yes velocity deftly avoided those issues by not even taking the time to install any eyelets or weld the joints. Velocities problems with the aerohead extrusion was far worse than any of the mavic stuff I have heard about too. It sounds like they may have fixed that but that it took so long is indicative of a much larger failure in their quality control.

They make fine rims but none of them approach the quality of the better mavics even though they cost near to the same price.

I am 220# as stated above and ride on 23s I bomb rr tracks stairs and bunny hop curbs and the my cxp22 laced to phils haves so much as pinged

I have seen too man velocity with the tire bead on the rim collapsed

Yes velocity deftly avoided those issues by not even taking the time to...weld the joints.

Moot. See:


For hollow rims, however, welding is not only difficult and expensive, but also unnecessary because the joint as well as the rest of the rim of a properly tensioned wheel is always under compression. Most hollow rims are joined with a close-fitting plug. Welding generally produces poorer alignment than a plug joint, and it has no strength advantages because there is no tension at the joint, only compression.

I have a set of 36h Mavic Open Sports and they seem pretty indestructible to me; short of a car smashing into them.

Hed:)

i just got on a pair of velocity fusions. the perfect comprimise. nice, somewhat understated(DONT f'ing get colors! lol)......and the best part about it? not too many people talk about fusions. i also recomend the cxp22's. they look cheap in bare alum but the pair ive had and rode daily for a year and half NEVER went out of true. they look really good in black, but again, really cheap in bare alum. i also have to add that im on an iro which is on the heavy side, so adding more weight really isnt much of an issue with me. im super strong. (enough to only ride to go get coffee...and thats only if the sun is out)

Wait...... "Mavic Open Pros get rave reviews and everyone seems to love them so could you suggest something else?" ... I don't get it. There's a reason people flock to them. Outside of the hyper-rims that cost as much as most entire bikes, they seem to be the benchmark against which others are compared.

Though I understand not wanting what everyone else on the road has. I should shut up now since I have no other suggestions for you. Both my road bikes have Open Pros and I love them..

After trying to bunnyhop a huge pothole on my Surly and coming a few inches short when the rear tire smacked the far edge of the pothole VERY hard as I came back down, I've been a big fan. I heard the noise that was made when it crunched into the jagged pavement.. and then I saw the very small amount of damage that was done and has since been easily fixed. Woohoo! Open Pros 4 lyfe, son.

i didn't mean to bash open pros... i meant to imply that you needn't mention them repeatedly because we all know they are great rims. i'm just looking for some other suggestions.


p.s. who makes "cxp33"s?

cxp33/cxp22=MAVIC

i just got on a pair of velocity fusions. the perfect comprimise. nice, somewhat understated(DONT f'ing get colors! lol)......and the best part about it? not too many people talk about fusions. i also recomend the cxp22's. they look cheap in bare alum but the pair ive had and rode daily for a year and half NEVER went out of true. they look really good in black, but again, really cheap in bare alum. i also have to add that im on an iro which is on the heavy side, so adding more weight really isnt much of an issue with me. im super strong. (enough to only ride to go get coffee...and thats only if the sun is out)

Yay, I've got Fusions on order at Ben's Cycles after eternally debating whether to go with those or Aeroheads. Hopefully they are worth it, I like the fact that they aren't overkill like the Deep V's for someone my weight, lighter but still a nice V profile to keep things stiff, strong and trued, and nice looking but not obnoxiously so in bright dip silver.

Do you like them better than CXP22s? I'm sure Fusions are lighter...

actually, the cxp 22's are lighter by a little bit. the wheels with hubs and spokes weigh/wiegh NOTHING.
and yes, i like them more than the cxp22's but only for aesthetic reasons. ive been into all black bikes for some reason(maybe its that damned mash movie the kids are talking about) so the wheel set is black on black on black. the cxp's i had were silver on silver. the profile is similar, but the fusions are just a hair bit deeper. i wish i could find cxp22's in all black, non machined . the finish on the black version is GORGEOUS(sp). high gloss finish.

deep vs: 520g
fusions: 475g
aeroheads: 405g
cxp22: 510g
cxp33: 470g
open pro: 425g

deep vs: 520g
fusions: 475g
aeroheads: 405g
cxp22: 510g
cxp33: 470g
open pro: 425g
these may be the weights given by the manufacturers, but here are some of the weights as given by an independent, third party:

deep v:580g
aerohead:435g
cxp33:455g
open pro:430g

mavic for the win there are reasons I own mavic and araya rims there are many many reasons

For the record: I have had my Salsa Delgados for 2 years, haven't needed any truing. On Saturday I wheelie dropped a 1-foot curb. Still smooth.

^ i had a salsa delgado as one of my first rims (in the rear) and you're right, they are tough rims.

hello world

can someone please compare and contrast cxp33 and open pros
?

i have 2 sets of OPs and i am wondering if i should try something new

these rims list at similar prices

CXP33 are nice too.

seconded

cxp33 is a semi-aero mavic rim, as are the rest of the CXP series. Not sure what the individual numeric designation is for, though.

Ah

so possible added stiffness

but since i am looking for a fixed wheel and am not particularly fast "semi-aero" wont actually have any aero impact

so why buy 33s over ops
?

Not sure what the individual numeric designation is for, though.

I think they are depth but that pretty much just conjecture.

They aren't really deep enough to be aero in any sense other then style. They will be less radially compliant then an open pro but probably not really stronger. They may or may not shed mud better depending on who you ask which also probably doesn't effect you. I would just go with OPs unless you really like the look of the cxp33s.

cxp33 is a semi-aero mavic rim, as are the rest of the CXP series. Not sure what the individual numeric designation is for, though.


cxp=could X plode! number is blast radius.

Why does mavic hate you and want you to blow up?

:p Mavic Reflexs with the machined sidewalls in silver. Sew-ups can be ridden on the street!

deep vs: 520g
fusions: 475g
aeroheads: 405g
cxp22: 510g
cxp33: 470g
open pro: 425g

weightweenies dot com shows that cxp33s are actually a bit lighter than their claimed weight..somewhere around 450g, but I'd have to double check.
CXP 33s are my favorite road/track fixie rim, they are deep, but not extremely deep and fairly light considering their depth and stiffness. In my experience, cxp33s are easy to buid up into a perfectly round rim and they stay true under a lot of abuse. For something a little more bombproof and/or perhaps more cyclocrossy to use with bigger tires, I like Sun CR18s for their low cost and bombproof characteristics. They are a little more finicky when building...I never could get them perfectly round like with Mavics, but close enough that it doesn't make a difference. I have a set CR18s with 36hole surly hubs that have stayed true for a couple of years.

I've been beating the hell out of ma3's / open sports and they've been taking it quite well. I've only had to replace them when I've been hit by cars. Haven't used much else but I haven't had a reason to.

Ditto. My 36h Open Sports are still totally true after months of some pretty nasty pothole attacks.

Anyone have the weight info on those?

700c Sun CR18. Cheap, stiff, nuke-proof.

Aren't those kind of wide for the IRO BFFGSS group buy frame? Probably Sun M13's would be more appropriate for a bike that takes a maximum 28mm wide tire.

ya'll jelaous my 40 dolla sun box rimz rollin on 700c bbbbbblatt mash sf!!!!!!

ya'll jelaous my 40 dolla sun box rimz rollin on 700c bbbbbblatt mash sf!!!!!!

I keep trying to run this through babelfish and I just get this error message again and again....





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Kidding, kidding...

Aren't those kind of wide for the IRO BFFGSS group buy frame? Probably Sun M13's would be more appropriate for a bike that takes a maximum 28mm wide tire.

Well, I run 23mm tires on them and they are fine. Yeah, they're a wider rim, but they still take narrow enough tires without a complaint. Anything smaller than 23mm is just dumb for street riding on bad Missouri roads anyhow, as I see it, so tire width has never been a problem for me with them.

And for what it's worth, every time I get on my singlespeed I hop/drop multiple (at least a dozen) curbs without ill effect on my rear wheel. +1+ for the Sun CR-18

Another vote for Salsa Delgados.

well the problem with the velocity deep v's are the aluminum isnt as high quality as the open pros and after x amount of truing, the rim turns into mush

well the problem with the velocity deep v's are the aluminum isnt as high quality as the open pros and after x amount of truing, the rim turns into mush

I've never heard that anywhere else. also, that only matters if you have to true the wheel over and over, which I haven't had to do with mine. and technically if you get all uri geller on any rim it's gonna fail.