Road Cycling - should I upgrade?

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mmmmmhills
05-12-03, 05:29 PM
I bought an older road bike off of ebay that's an 80's Lotus steel frame upgraded with 105 components, double/6-speed. The frames in pretty good shape with only a tad bit of surface rust. It needs a new rear hub, cassette and shifters(since I'll be going from a six to probably an 8), and also a new front derailleur. The everything else looks okay if a bit used. Should I put money around the frame I have and buy a decent new group(105/ultegra/centaur), or just buy the individual parts? I'm training and commuting on it.

Any help would be appreciated.


Walter
05-12-03, 05:58 PM
The standard response with an older bike is no. There are exceptions: an old friend you've had for years and can't bear to part with but you've got the itch to try out the new stuff too. However you just bought this bike.

I think I saw that Lotus on eBay. Solid bike but Ultegra/Centaur gruppos are many more $ than the bike and the bike doesn't appreciate anywhere near that much in value. To upgrade probably requires spreading the rear triangle as well as rebuilding/replacing the rear wheel.

You've got a solid Shimano group on that bike now. If you need a rear hub there are many sources for retro rear wheels, not the least of which is eBay. Ride that bike for what it is, don't spend big $ to make it something else.

OTOH it's your money and you may certainly spend it as you see fit. I'm sure a LBS will be happy to help you out. If you're determined to do it buy the gruppo. More cash up front but alot less in the long run.

mmmmmhills
05-12-03, 06:06 PM
Thanks for the advice. That seems like the best, and least expensive, way to go. How do I make sure the parts will work for the bike?


Michel Gagnon
05-12-03, 06:09 PM
Walter had the probable, most likely answer.

You have a few cost-efficient options, however, especially if you can find used parts on a donor bike or at a bike repair shop.

1. Keep current shifters, or if you replace them, find other downtube friction shifters ($10-15). A used set of 7- or 8-speed indexed shifters is a good bet (cheap if you find them), but you will need a new derailleur.

Why do you need a rear hub? Are bearing races kaputt? Otherwise, new bearings and new grease might solve the issue. Then, if the freewheel is worn out, you can find a 7-speed freewheel that will fit on the wheel as is. If you really need a new wheel, then try to find a used 7-speed one, as it will fit as is in the dropouts.

BTW, the original friction shifters (or they might be indexed/friction, in which case you should select Friction) are able to shift a 7-speed freewheel or cassette, and maybe even an 8 or 9-speed cassette, with your existing derailleur or with a new one. IOW, no need to replace the shifters unless they don't work.

ZackJones
05-12-03, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by mmmmmhills
I bought an older road bike off of ebay that's an 80's Lotus steel frame upgraded with 105 components, double/6-speed.


I like your username :)

Regarding the bike, it wouldn't happen to be painted red with white Lotus decals on it would it? The only reason I ask is some time ago I sold a red Lotus Legend Compe on Ebay and it was 6-speed with 105 components. If the auction closed in the last 90 days would you please post the number so I can take a look at it?

Regarding upgrading - I'd probably keep it as is.

Zack

mmmmmhills
05-12-03, 07:01 PM
If I was upgrading to an 8-speed setup, which I don't think I'll do now, the guy at my LBS said I'd need a new rear hub. Otherwise, the hub is fine, so no replacement needed there. A lot of the teeth on the cassette are bent or shorter than the others, so I figured that needed to be replaced either way. The shifters seem to work fine. The chain broke, so that's why I'm just now noticing all this. That, I'm pretty much a complete newbie. Thanks for all the help so far.

BTW, mine's blue with white lettering.

Kev
05-12-03, 07:03 PM
It is definately cheaper to keep it as is, but it's your money. I am in the process of ugrading a old steel bike I have. It was red and white, I'm almost done repainting it and since I have a 9sp shimano wheelset I decided to upgrade it to all 105 9sp. With the 20% off at nashbar it ran me around $270.

RunYun
05-12-03, 07:59 PM
105 is not a bad gruppo. For what you are looking for it will be a work horse and will not cost you much for a decent ride. Your not looking for weight savings and you are not planning on serious racing so go for it. Save your money for your next bike. There is always a next one. Once you stomp you can's stop.

mmmmmhills
05-13-03, 09:27 AM
Would these work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3607873098&category=42332

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3607088839&category=42332