Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - 200 miles in two days ona fix?

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Rancid
02-20-07, 02:23 PM
So I want to do the seattle to portland ride this summer and I've been thinking about doing it on my fixie. I would do the two day version if I took the fixie and would start training for it soon, but it still kind of seems sketch just for the sheer distance in two days. Anyone have any experience in ultra endurance rides on fixies? Give me your thoughts and advice!


TheRobbStory
02-20-07, 02:25 PM
I did Tampa to Orlando and back last April on a track bike; about 180 miles. Not the most comfortable way to do it, but it's definitely possible. The weird looks and comments from people riding the same route were the best part about it.

humancongereel
02-20-07, 02:26 PM
So I want to do the seattle to portland ride this summer and I've been thinking about doing it on my fixie. I would do the two day version if I took the fixie and would start training for it soon, but it still kind of seems sketch just for the sheer distance in two days. Anyone have any experience in ultra endurance rides on fixies? Give me your thoughts and advice!

for sure. the 15th is my birthday, so i was going to do that, and i had no worries in my mind about making the trip on a fix.


queerpunk
02-20-07, 02:26 PM
i've never done it before, but i think you should go for it! some things to remember:

1. train with long rides.
2. get comfortable enough to spend that kind of time in the saddle.
3. eat during the rides - a bloody lot.

humancongereel
02-20-07, 02:29 PM
i guess i was also thinking of it from the standpoint of doing most of my day in the saddle anyway, and just working harder at it...i wouldn't expect to be easy for anyone at anypoint, but i think that's part of the fun. the challenge. i think with enough leg muscle and, more importantly, enough heart or determination or whatever, it'd be just fine.

Rancid
02-20-07, 02:29 PM
for sure. the 15th is my birthday, so i was going to do that, and i had no worries in my mind about making the trip on a fix.

looking for a riding partner?

CliftonGK1
02-20-07, 02:31 PM
Last year's route was mostly flat, as was the year before so it's do-able. There's some long, low rise hills so don't pick anything too steep for your gearing. Last year there was a long 7% grade.
Props to ya if you have the endurance to spin it out on a fixed.

monsterkidz
02-20-07, 02:34 PM
I am supposed to be flying out west to do this ride also. My friend is a personal trainer in Vancouver. He rode STP last year and had a blast, so this year I might do it with him. I was going to do it on my roadie, didn't even think about doing it fixed. I did the Montauk Century last year fixed (48x18) and that ended up being closer to 150 miles after all was said and done. It wasn't horrible, but I know I'd be more comfy being able to coast a little.

scotthorrigan
02-20-07, 02:35 PM
i organized a boston to providence race and it was just under 50 miles and everyone did it in 2 - 2 and a half hours. so in a day if you take it at your own pace, you could easily pull 100 miles a day.

mattm
02-20-07, 02:39 PM
So I want to do the seattle to portland ride this summer and I've been thinking about doing it on my fixie. I would do the two day version if I took the fixie and would start training for it soon, but it still kind of seems sketch just for the sheer distance in two days. Anyone have any experience in ultra endurance rides on fixies? Give me your thoughts and advice!

i did the two-day 2005 STP on a fixie. for training i rode the lake washington loop weekly and threw in a century or two. i used 14x40 for gearing, which is just small enough to get up the 7% grade, and big enough that i could hang in the pacelines on the flats. i might try to use a bigger gear this time around since the course generally flat.

besides that one hill (in auburn i think) the ride wasn't too bad. on the 2nd day i had some knee-pains, but go figure, i was riding an f-in fixie 100 miles a day! i'm thinking about the one-day option for the 2007 STP, but i'm not sure that my knees can take it.

maybe i'll just bring some booze or advil, or both.

anyway, it's certainly doable, and we weren't the only fixies in the pack, although there weren't many. the biggest thing is that you want to get the right gear-ratio, you'll need to tinker with that on your training rides to see what's best for you.

sinkFLsink
02-20-07, 02:45 PM
If it's the "Ride Without Limits" benefiting United Cerebral Palsy...it's happening here in Tampa as well. The thing is, your entry fee is $80 and you have to commit to raise $1800. Obviously a good cause, but those are big numbers. Here is a link to the race site with more info... www.ridewithoutlimits.org

BeantownFixed
02-20-07, 02:51 PM
i organized a boston to providence race and it was just under 50 miles and everyone did it in 2 - 2 and a half hours. so in a day if you take it at your own pace, you could easily pull 100 miles a day.
When was this and will it happen again?

humancongereel
02-20-07, 02:53 PM
looking for a riding partner?


i wish, dude. i'm living in columbus, ohio now...so that changed some of my plans, like riding to the naccc and doing the stp. i hear there are centuries aplenty out here, not to mention i'm closer to ragbrai, but...damn, i still want to do the stp. if i end up being able to traverse the country again to do a double century for my birthday, i'll let you know--i'd love riding with you.

marqueemoon
02-20-07, 02:54 PM
I have been kicking around doing a one day STP fixed this year. I did it in one day with gears last year and it wasn't too bad. I finished in just under 12 hours.

If we can get a group together I might be up for it. If anyone's down for a Lake Washington Loop training (or whatever) ride, see my post in rides & races.

*edit* Two days? Totally doable.

sinkFLsink
02-20-07, 02:54 PM
San Diego, CA Sep 8-9
Portland, OR Sep 29-30
????????, NC Oct 13-14
Tampa Bay, FL Nov 17-18

humancongereel
02-20-07, 02:55 PM
what are those dates?

sinkFLsink
02-20-07, 02:57 PM
what are those dates?

The dates this 200 mile race is taking place for the Ride Without Limits thing...different 200 miles, but somewhat related since it's in Portland.

okpik
02-20-07, 02:58 PM
depends on what kind of condition your in, ive done it, its no big deal, I will be doing it again for the TOSRV probably

humancongereel
02-20-07, 02:58 PM
oh, the cerebral palsy ride. somehow it slipped past me that you'd posted that, so i didn't realize which post you were following up on.

SamHouston
02-20-07, 03:00 PM
You can do that ride just fine even w/out training, 2 days is a long time. 200 miles seems a lot at first glance, the way a first century seems a lot. A hundred miles is a lot when you're pushing to keep it at 5 hours or under, but 200 miles is a cakewalk when you divide it into 2 10-hour days of riding. That's just 10mph if you only take 10 hours a day, usually 12+ hours are available on tour & charity rides.

Do it, you'll love it.

Ken Cox
02-20-07, 03:00 PM
Here in Oregon we have an organized ride that does 500 miles in seven days.

My wife has encouraged me to do this ride on my fixed gear bike, but I find the elevation gains too daunting.

I have considered a ride from Bend to Portland, about 165 miles.

My physical therapist has suggested I try Bend to Bachelor, and if I can do this I can do Bend to Portland.

I've started training for Bachelor, and I find the uphill part not that bad at 72 gear inches, but at a little over an hour my normally comfortable saddle starts to raise some issues.
I think I need to either spend more time in the saddle or consider getting off for a snack and a sip every hour.

The Seattle - Portland ride sounds very interesting.
Where can I get more info about this, and, on these kinds of rides to people get off their bikes and refresh themselves regularly?
Or, perhaps each organized ride has its own culture(s).

In any event, I would like to see more organzied fixed gear rides.
I do a training ride here in Bend of about 12.5 miles in 50 minutes (through traffic), and I often wonder how fast a really fit and skilled rider could do the same ride, and what gear inch ratio they would choose.

Anyway, on the Seattle to Portland ride, I could take the train to Seattle (a beautiful train ride) and ride my bike back to Portland and maybe on to Bend.

Hm.

dirtyphotons
02-20-07, 03:03 PM
consider getting off for a snack and a sip every hour.

that's how i do long distance rides. the ms150 was downright pleasant on my fixed gear because i got off and walked around every ten or so miles.

dr.mojo
02-20-07, 03:09 PM
I have done 6 doubles fixed, as have some friends of mine. Plus we rode across the country, fixed, averaging 135 miles per day (225 was the longest, Big Fix 2006) If you train, you can do anything. Start in lower gear--high 60's to mid 70's, work your downhill spin, then if you are strong enough, move up to high 70's, even low 80's (I have ridden over 140 miles in a day in 83", lots of climbing)
Get a brooks saddle tho!!! Chafing/sore bum is the worst of it all.
Cheers and good luck!
mOjO

marqueemoon
02-20-07, 03:09 PM
STP info (http://cascade.org/EandR/stp/STP_Details.cfm). The 2007 route map is not posted yet but should be similar to previous years. I'll look around.

Rancid
02-20-07, 03:10 PM
The Seattle - Portland ride sounds very interesting.
Where can I get more info about this, and, on these kinds of rides to people get off their bikes and refresh themselves regularly?
Or, perhaps each organized ride has its own culture(s).


all the info in the world:

www.seattletoportland.com

jamey
02-20-07, 03:13 PM
all the info in the world:

www.seattletoportland.com

i highly doubt that link holds all the info in the world.

TheRobbStory
02-20-07, 03:21 PM
Now how could anyone possibly know that?

jamey
02-20-07, 03:22 PM
oh, i know...i know.

bmike
02-20-07, 03:33 PM
Several folks did BMB this year fixed. 42x16 was what one of the riders used.
Many more did an entire brevet series fixed. 200k, 300k, 400k, and 600k.

200 miles is doable.

humancongereel
02-20-07, 03:34 PM
Here in Oregon we have an organized ride that does 500 miles in seven days.

My wife has encouraged me to do this ride on my fixed gear bike, but I find the elevation gains too daunting.

I have considered a ride from Bend to Portland, about 165 miles.

My physical therapist has suggested I try Bend to Bachelor, and if I can do this I can do Bend to Portland.

I've started training for Bachelor, and I find the uphill part not that bad at 72 gear inches, but at a little over an hour my normally comfortable saddle starts to raise some issues.
I think I need to either spend more time in the saddle or consider getting off for a snack and a sip every hour.

The Seattle - Portland ride sounds very interesting.
Where can I get more info about this, and, on these kinds of rides to people get off their bikes and refresh themselves regularly?
Or, perhaps each organized ride has its own culture(s).

In any event, I would like to see more organzied fixed gear rides.
I do a training ride here in Bend of about 12.5 miles in 50 minutes (through traffic), and I often wonder how fast a really fit and skilled rider could do the same ride, and what gear inch ratio they would choose.

Anyway, on the Seattle to Portland ride, I could take the train to Seattle (a beautiful train ride) and ride my bike back to Portland and maybe on to Bend.

Hm.


what sort of saddle are you riding? more time in the saddle could help, sure, but a more comfortable saddle might also help. brooks perhaps, but that's not the only saddle out there with a reputation for comfort.

Morgie
02-20-07, 03:42 PM
I've done the Houston to Austin MS 150 that is 192 miles a couple of times on my road bike. I've thought about doing it fixed, but there a some pretty hilly sections so I think these april i'll bust out the road bike again.

I also did the Boston to Providence ride mentioned by scott

scotthorrigan
02-20-07, 06:26 PM
When was this and will it happen again?


it happened in november and yes, it will happen again

Kilgore_Trout
02-20-07, 06:48 PM
i organized a boston to providence race and it was just under 50 miles and everyone did it in 2 - 2 and a half hours. so in a day if you take it at your own pace, you could easily pull 100 miles a day.

are you ******** kidding me?! people were averaging 20-25mph for 50miles? that seems like a lot of speed and endurance, even on an entirely flat roadway, factor in hills and goddamn

scotthorrigan
02-20-07, 07:29 PM
are you ******** kidding me?! people were averaging 20-25mph for 50miles? that seems like a lot of speed and endurance, even on an entirely flat roadway, factor in hills and goddamn

yes sir, it was insanse

Kilgore_Trout
02-20-07, 07:37 PM
yes sir, it was insanse

is everyone you know a beast or on some kind of amphetamines or performance-enhancing drugs? i could probably keep pace for 1/2 the ride, and then ride at a crawl the rest of the way.
damnn.

scotthorrigan
02-20-07, 07:43 PM
i dont know how it happened, but it did. everyone just gave it their all.

lemurhouse
02-20-07, 08:49 PM
Go for it. Very doable espescially if you train any reasonable amount. But be realistic about your gear selection. Too tall is not good, but too short isn't much better. So choose something you can spin hour after hour but that won't leave you out on the road forever either. Fixed/fixed hubs are nice because you can edge towards optimistic gearing, but still have a bail-out cog on the other side. Even if you don't use it its comforting to know its there.

Be like our friend Goethe: "Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it."

chzman
02-20-07, 08:50 PM
i've averaged 20.7mph over 46 miles last summer on the fixed gear... it is not that insane.


and yes, i have done 210 miles in two days for the past 3 years on the fixed (TOSRV)

Hocam
02-20-07, 09:34 PM
The key is negative elevation change

h_curtis
02-20-07, 10:15 PM
I did Tampa to Orlando and back last April on a track bike; about 180 miles. Not the most comfortable way to do it, but it's definitely possible. The weird looks and comments from people riding the same route were the best part about it.

If you are in Florida, you might as well have a fixed. There are NO hills at all. Very easy riding there.. well except for all the red necks in pickups all over the place especially when you get inland a little ways. Horrible place to ride a bike.

andre nickatina
02-20-07, 10:56 PM
Is there a Portland to Seattle ride?

roadfix
02-20-07, 11:00 PM
Just make sure you're comfortable with your saddle. It's not too often you can lift your butt off the saddle for relief.

Morgie
02-20-07, 11:01 PM
is everyone you know a beast or on some kind of amphetamines or performance-enhancing drugs? i could probably keep pace for 1/2 the ride, and then ride at a crawl the rest of the way.
damnn.

I can confirm that this did actually happen. They guy who came in first averaged over 25mph I'm pretty sure

Dogbait
02-20-07, 11:53 PM
So I want to do the seattle to portland ride this summer and I've been thinking about doing it on my fixie. I would do the two day version if I took the fixie and would start training for it soon, but it still kind of seems sketch just for the sheer distance in two days. Anyone have any experience in ultra endurance rides on fixies? Give me your thoughts and advice!

STP... 1 day, 1 gear. Here's a ride report by Gonesh9, a BF member.

STP (http://bicycle-eye.blogspot.com/2005/07/make-it-double-i-think-i-could-do-more.html)

LWaB
02-21-07, 04:58 AM
Many more did an entire brevet series fixed. 200k, 300k, 400k, and 600k.

I'm one. It isn't that much harder than with gears, some think it is easier.