Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Nitto Bullhorn snapped at the stem. I hurt.

Correction. This was a Nitto bullhorn from IRO.

Well, this was an interesting ride. I'm on my way home from work and I'm coming up to a red light at a major intersection. Start to put a little back pressure to slow down when bam!!! I'm on the ground wondering what the "f" just happened. I pick myself up, check to see if everything still moves and then check out the bike. The left side of the bar is hanging from my brake cable. Plus my front wheel is now bent. Freaked the crap out of the three women at the bus stop this happened at. Damage sustained. Bruised hand, elbow, shoulder, hip and thigh plus a sraped shin. The frame's fine and the wheel can be trued, but what better bulhorn option is out there for the taking. This might not be too tough to answer since really, all I want is one that isn't going to catastrophically fail. This sh@t hurts.

*IRO is just a retailer for Nitto parts, they deserve no
blame for the failure. I assure you that they do not
get Nitto factory seconds. In fact, I doubt very highly
that a company like Nitto sells seconds or otherwise
defective products as anything other than scrap metal.

well... the nitto according to just about everyone is the better bullhorn. it sounds like a defect, call tony and ask about warenty stuff

I'm going to assume the handlebar was never drilled for internal cable-routing, and that you didn't cram a 26.0 bar in a 25.4 stem (both are serious moron offenses).

Pics?

cram a 26.0 bar in a 25.4 stem

Why a serious moron offense?

Dude, that is a moron offense.

Nope stock stuff from IRO. 26 bar with a 26 stem. I'll take picture as soon as the wife is back with the camera on Saturday.

I thought 26.0 in 25.4 precipitated stem clamp failure, not bar failure. Glad you mentioned that.

all I want is one that isn't going to catastrophically fail.

you could get the same one, and the chances that it would fail would be extremely slim. i don't know anything about manufacturing processes or what would lead to a failure-prone occasional defect, but i do know that reports of nitto bars breaking are few and far between (this is the first i've heard).

for every product ever made, there's a failure story. a piece failing is not the same thing as being failure-prone or unsafe.

you could get the same one, and the chances that it would fail would be extremely slim. i don't know anything about manufacturing processes or what would lead to a failure-prone occasional defect, but i do know that reports of nitto bars breaking are few and far between (this is the first i've heard).

for every product ever made, there's a failure story. a piece failing is not the same thing as being failure-prone or unsafe.

qft

Thanks. My main concern is that the Nitto bullhorns that IRO uses are just cheap pieces of crap to keep the bike build cost down. I've been really happy with the bike and have over 3000 miles on it since May. I took the road bike into work today and frankly, I'm a huge chickensh@t now thanks to last night.

A Nitto product is a Nitto product. It has nothing to do with IRO.
Unless they are getting bullhorns and calling them Nitto bullhorns, then it would have nothing to do with Nitto.

qft

qft? what's qft?

If a company endorses the use of a third party component maker it does. Look, I'm not saying that IRO makes these horns I'm just wondering if they picked the cheapest of the lot from Nitto to supply to their customers.

sorry, QP..."quoted for truth". i didn't feel like typing "+1" yet again.

i mean..."quit ****ing talking".

If a company endorses the use of a third party component maker it does. Look, I'm not saying that IRO makes these horns I'm just wondering if they picked the cheapest of the lot from Nitto to supply to their customers.


i doubt they'd do that. everything iro does seems very much on the up and up, to say the least.

it really sucks that it happened...but in my most honest, as humble as i can get opinion, it was bad luck.

i doubt they'd do that. everything iro does seems very much on the up and up, to say the least.

it really sucks that it happened...but in my most honest, as humble as i can get opinion, it was bad luck.
qft/+1/yes, i agree.

qft? what's qft?

quid for...true?

quaint frame tape?

quit for tea?

quinn freaks tranny?

ah, i've got it:

quoted for truth.


[eit]i'm always late.

and unimaginative.

+1 on pure bad luck; in my understanding Nitto stuff is all pretty high quality and i have never heard of another Nitto product failing under normal use. You never crashed on these bars before did you?

oh, i guess i should also add that i've been rocking nitto horns (both 019s and 021s) for a while now, and even wrecked my 021s so that they're bent in on both sides and i don't have even the slightest concern about their performance.

i dunno, just realized i'd said nothing about my personal experience, which is that nitto horns are sturdy, which is my main criterium for parts.

Nope. First spill as well. I'll I needed was to have a vehicle involved for the trifecta. Thank guys. I'm cool with the bad luck factor. I'll call Tony in the morning to see if they qualify for the warrantee.

i would bet they probably will. better luck with your next bars.

quite flippin' true

good one.

just switch to these:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3135/1956/1600/bamboo%20single.jpg

I think nitto makes an alloy version as well.

switch to no bars?

Ghost bars!

Doesn't the pic show up? It does in my browser. Damn, joke ruined.

Here's the link:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3135/1956/1600/bamboo%20single.jpg

IRO is just a retailer for Nitto parts, they deserve no
blame for the failure. I assure you that they do not
get Nitto factory seconds. In fact, I doubt very highly
that a company like Nitto sells seconds or otherwise
defective products as anything other than scrap metal.

IRO is just a retailer for Nitto parts, they deserve no
blame for the failure. I assure you that they do not
get Nitto factory seconds. In fact, I doubt very highly
that a company like Nitto sells seconds or otherwise
defective products as anything other than scrap metal.

I agree - the OP should change the title of this thread accordingly

syntace FTW!!!!

Doesn't the pic show up? It does in my browser. Damn, joke ruined.

Here's the link:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3135/1956/1600/bamboo%20single.jpg


those horns look really nice. somewhere out there, there's a bull with a huge headache. :)

I agree - the OP should change the title of this thread accordingly

Title has been edited. Thks

IRO is just a retailer for Nitto parts, they deserve no
blame for the failure. I assure you that they do not
get Nitto factory seconds. In fact, I doubt very highly
that a company like Nitto sells seconds or otherwise
defective products as anything other than scrap metal.

Regardless. Snap!!!

Here's a photo. (Dog willing this'll work)

that's nasty. ouch.

Here's a photo. (Dog willing this'll work)

hey opie

did you address the accusations that you used too small a stem for too large a bar?

hey opie

did you address the accusations that you used too small a stem for too large a bar?

Whatcho mean, Andy? 26 bar, 26 clamp. Teach me somethin'.

Whatcho mean, Andy? 26 bar, 26 clamp. Teach me somethin'.

that is all

freak accident

you say this bike has not been crashed before

glad you arent dead

No, there's nothing to learn. He was just re-asking the same question.

EDIT: I oughta hit "refresh" more often...

that is all

freak accident

you say this bike has not been crashed before

glad you arent dead

Thanks for reading.

i cant be bothered to actually read

time is $ yall

I thought 26.0 in 25.4 precipitated stem clamp failure, not bar failure. Glad you mentioned that.

Wow...I didn't know that it was a problem. I've been running one of my bikes like that for a while now. What do you guys think about reusing them stem and/or bars? I pried the stem clamp open slightly, and if that weakens it enough to make it dangerous I guess bending it back would only make it worse, but I don't mind just tossing the stem. The bars are nice, though. Definitely not throwaway quality. Any thoughts?

I don't see the issue using 26 bars in a 25.4 clamp so long as you don't go all gorilla on it prying **** open and pay attention to any warning signs like components that are worn or damaged to begin with. It's SIX TENTHS OF A MILLIMETER, people. It's not like trying to shove and OS bar into a 25.4 clamp. I've had plenty of 25.4 stems that pretty much readily accepted 26mm bars with no persuasion whatever.

Ghost bars!
The weight savings is ridiculous.

Re 26.0 bars in 25.4 clamp: While it won't guarantee a failure, you can't half-ass something and expect to have no effects whatsoever. In 99.9% of cases it will probably work fine (don't take my word for it), but it's probably just enough to void your warranty.

I think the problem was your doing the one handed hand-stand on the left side of your bars at that light.

Too much weight on the horns and all that.

Dude that is messed up. You should change the title and get ride of IRO in your post altogether. It is Nitto that is the problem it would seem, unless you did something to the bars you are not reporting. That is amazing they failed. Never heard of such a thing. I crank the crap out of my Cinelli's (obviously not bullhorns) and they are so solid. Maybe move up to a different brand.

Wholly crap, I just saw that pictures. You must be like 300 lbs to do that?

re: Nitto vs. IRO - i would generally expect the retailler who sold me a part to take up my case and try to get a replacement from the manufacturer. so yes, the failure was with Nitto's bars, and hopefully IRO will replace them for you.

all failures are extraordinary. keep the bars! hang them on your wall!

also re: bar/clamp sizes. i've put a lot of wacky **** into (threadless) stems with removable faceplates under the idea that the faceplate clamp will be a lot more forgiving of slightly different clamp sizes than a one-bolt clamp like on many stems for threaded setups. i've had no problems, but your mileage may vary.

Looks like you cranked the stem down too hard on em and stressed it. Ive seen it happen with BMX bars before because of that reason.

...there goes the imaginary basis for Nitto fetishism. Sh*t happens with all sorts of parts.
Wish you quick healing & shiny new bars. No meaningful input on what make and model you should get.

just email both IRO and Nitto and send the pic. Explain what happened.

S/F,
CEYA!