Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - tips on building a fixed gear bike for tricks

so im getting a new frame, guess which one it is? right, obviously the only thing talked about on here right now (besides brakes) is the new IRO group buy bike.

anyway, i want to build it up as a bike just to do tricks on. so give me some tips:
clips versus clipless
long stem versus short stem
riser bars/flats/drops
stem
seat
wheels
etc

they're called bmx bikes. you're on the wrong forum.

so im getting a new frame, guess which one it is? right, obviously the only thing talked about on here right now (besides brakes) is the new IRO group buy bike.

anyway, i want to build it up as a bike just to do tricks on. so give me some tips:
clips versus clipless
long stem versus short stem
riser bars/flats/drops
stem
seat
wheels
etc

20" wheels, gyro, detangler, pegs...

are you talking like the german riders/the dance scenes in quicksilver?

i'd say use platforms and a low gear. while clips would be handy, you're probably going to jumping around enough, swinging your legs over the bars and whatnot. a low gear will give you a lot of control. i'm not talking low like 46x17, i'm talking polo gearing...32x22 or something.

stem, i'd say rise is more important than length, so you can do barspins. not knowing a lot about tricks, i'd guess short would be good, so that control of the bars is drawn in closer to your body.

riser bars, for sure.

wheels, i'd say something cheap and sturdy. say, the formula/cxp 22s everyone loves.

seat, i'm not sure. i'd guess you'd want the seatpost fairly far in the frame, though, so it wouldn't get in the way as you move around. you probably won't be in the saddle that much anyway.

can you put some type of peg on a fixed rear wheel? the general concensus on bmx pegs is that you can't, but i believe i've heard of something you can do.

oh, and a fork that puts the front wheel fairly far forward.

so im getting a new frame, guess which one it is? right, obviously the only thing talked about on here right now (besides brakes) is the new IRO group buy bike.

anyway, i want to build it up as a bike just to do tricks on. so give me some tips:
clips versus clipless
long stem versus short stem
riser bars/flats/drops
stem
seat
wheels
etc

Why? Besides, it's no fun if you can't jump it too.

it seems silly and kind of pointless, but i think it's everyone's secret desire to have a trick specific bike. Totally impractical though.

do a 1x1 gear ratio

Get a BMX or trials bike and relace the rear wheel with a track hub. I did it once and it wasn't all that fun...

i think it's everyone's secret desire to have a trick specific bike.


Mmmmmmmmmmm, nope, I checked deep into my inner being and have found no such desire. Even saw the one about a midget riding a 36er mountian bike, but still no trick bike.

A better title for this thread would be:
"tips on starting an internet flame war"

A better title for this thread would be:
"tips on starting an internet flame war"

easy:) (http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/index.php)

ps there is some really cool **** in there

BMX +1
Not the dance scenes in quicksilver, the dance scene in Rad. Send me an angel

i have a flatland frame and a handful of parts i'm looking to part ways with. you appear to be a prime candidate. let's talk.

it seems silly and kind of pointless, but i think it's everyone's secret desire to have a trick specific bike.

dutret...paging dutret.

Wet blanket needed in this thread immediately.

Paging dutret.

damn you all are hateful!

any who, as you may know flat land bikes are designed for such tricks, altered down tubes for more clearance, tighter geometry for quicker execution of tricks, and the such. an iro frame has a geometry that is quite slack. an actual track frame would be better suited to doing tricks, but with the sharp angle of the head tube, you would not be able to do bar spins with out either placing spacers above the fork crown, or switching to a smaller front wheel, or a combination of the both. another option would be to find a welder who would be willing to alter your down tube. I've never tried to put pegs on any wheelsets other than bmx, so I have no idea if the thread diameter would match up, but one problem would be that if you switched to pegs on the rear wheel, you might want to figure out how to put a serated washer on them some how, so that they don't slip...

any who, as you may know flat land bikes are designed for such tricks

FLATLAND. spelled not even remotely like TRACK.

christ, let's all hate on someone for wanting to have fun in their own way without hurting any of us.

for the record, i think such a bike would be super fun myself.

true, true. i'm usually not bitter at all. whoops.

FLATLAND. spelled not even remotely like TRACK.

what message are you trying convey with your clever use of caps lock?

emphasis, like where you might enunciate something uber-clearly in real life. it wasn't an attack on you either, it just didn't translate well to interweb-speak.

ok, so caps aside, what were you trying to say? if the issue was that I put it into two words, ok what ever, sort of silly but what ever floats your boat.

I'd go down a frame size. for wheelie'ness, the slacker the seat tube angle & shorter the chain stays, the better.

dutret...paging dutret.

Wet blanket needed in this thread immediately.

Paging dutret.


I have no problem with building a dedicated trick bike. I would like one myself(The tricks would be more or less exclusively hopping on something balancing and then hopping onto something else or off the other side). What I do have a problem with is making an impractical fashion bike thats worth thousands of dollars and then trashing it with tricks.

For example the following **** is idiotic to put on a trick bike:
thin AL or CF tubing(it should be heavy probably steel).
expensive aero wheels(should be smaller and with high spoke counts.)
Anything but platform pedals(possibly clipless depending on the tricks)
thin tires.
short bars.
Full size frames.
big saddles.
etc.

Doing anything else is just showing how much money you can waste to most closely follow the current fads.

I'm ok with the idea, it sounds fun.

Clips - don't have to worry about accidental clip-ins/fall-overs
Risers and upward angled stem for spinning
a mean face to give the haters

Give Don Walker a call. He will build you one. Chime in on this one Kyle.

my question

which tricks will you be doing?

Doing anything else is just showing how much money you can waste to most closely follow the current fads.

I made my son get a paper route to pay for my new carbon fiber track bike with risers and a 650 hed3. leg over the bar skids and no handed wheelies stallsallllll day baby!
I told him it was to cover some of the rent on the trailer, but what he don't know won't hurt him.
HOLLA!

I have no problem with building a dedicated trick bike. I would like one myself(The tricks would be more or less exclusively hopping on something balancing and then hopping onto something else or off the other side). What I do have a problem with is making an impractical fashion bike thats worth thousands of dollars and then trashing it with tricks.

For example the following **** is idiotic to put on a trick bike:
thin AL or CF tubing(it should be heavy probably steel).
expensive aero wheels(should be smaller and with high spoke counts.)
Anything but platform pedals(possibly clipless depending on the tricks)
thin tires.
short bars.
Full size frames.
big saddles.
etc.

Doing anything else is just showing how much money you can waste to most closely follow the current fads.

dutret, you are right. that is why everyone hates you.

http://www.cycle-info.bpaj.or.jp/english/ride/ff.html

forget the risers. just flip your drops for instant trickability. hobo bars make handstands just that much easier. so i would imagine.

dutret...Paging dutret.

What thread is your signature from? made me laugh a lot. :)

dutret, you are right. that is why everyone hates you.

It's like wanting to touch something you know is gonna burn you...

Anyway, while I'd never do this myself, if the OP wants to build a track bike for doing sick track bike tricks, let the guy do it already. If he's going to build it and enjoy the hell out of it, that's great. Why take down someone who's just trying to enjoy cycling in his own way?

check out the brooklyn machine work track frame. perfect for street tricks.
http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/07bicycles/brooklynmachineworksTA.html

keep in mind a trick bike will make 102 items

yeah^^^^don't forget that.

"you. are one sunnnnny day, doo dod dododod"

I wanted a trick frame, so I got a cheap BMX. But that's been said already, and I know what you are really wanting, so I'll answer seriously...

I'd get a Cycle Speedway frame.

http://www.cyclespeedway.biz/images/teamstar1.jpg

Steel or tough AL, super-steep angles, barspinnable, no brakes, super-short chainstays, relatively light.

Put some 3-piece BMX cranks on it for strength, run a super-low ratio (maybe even a freecoaster wheel?), and some sort of riser/BMX bar.

I'll disagree with dutret on the pedals, platforms all the way. There should be NO tricks that you need clipless pedals for. If trials and BMX guys don't need them, neither should you.

I said you should ONLY put platforms on. Possibly platform clipless though since presumably this bike still has to get you down to the bar to show off your tricks in one peice.

wow, guess i should have known there would be a considerable ammount of hate from this thread.
what i was trying to say is that i used to have a 22 mile commute each way at one job, i used to ride 10 hours a day at another, now most of the time its pretty much goofing off, bumming around town sort of trips where half the time im not even going anywhere and just trying to do backward circles and such. when i was a commuter i hate fenders, drops, clips to go to work and not need an extra pair of shoes. when i road 10 hours a day, i had clipless, bullhorns.

now i still want a purposeful bike, but it seems like my purpose is just as much goofing off as it is getting somewhere. still want a fixie, just want something that suits my purposes today.

It sounds like you aren't really going to be learning how to do handstands on your seat or anything like that, and you still want to get around a bit,. If thats the case, take any fixie and gear it a little lower..not rediculously low, but maybe something in the low 60s. That'll give you better control for wheelies and backwards circles and the like and still allow you to get around town. Steep geometry would be better and a smallish frame. Stay away from clipless pedals. They are not good for tricks. I have a fake tooth and a messed up elbow to prove that.

instead of gearing lower get a triple and a flip flop. Super low for tricks but flip the wheel and it's still workable around town and you don't have to carry an extra chain.

my question

which tricks will you be doing?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWIPZn6hg54



freestyle came from circus bikes. follow your roots.

I said you should ONLY put platforms on. Possibly platform clipless though since presumably this bike still has to get you down to the bar to show off your tricks in one peice.


Anything but platform pedals(possibly clipless depending on the tricks)

Am I high, or are you?

If you're looking for just a normal fixed/track bike that can be tricked upon, I'd get a Pista or some other workhorse steel track frame. Short chainstays! 36h wheels, DB spokes. Super-short stem (easy barspins, easier wheelies), and risers.

For example the following **** is idiotic to put on a trick bike:

Anything but platform pedals(possibly clipless depending on the tricks)


probably neither of us it wasn;t very clear.

probably neither of us it wasn;t very clear.
Or BOTH of us. Hey everybody, dutret and I got high together, and it was awesome.

dutret...why would you want a trick-bike? You need to be able to do tricks for it to be worth anything. It sounds like you would just be wasting money since you cant do any tricks. You would be wasting just as much money as the kids that can to tricks on their Alum rigs(in your eyes).

dutret...why would you want a trick-bike? You need to be able to do tricks for it to be worth anything. It sounds like you would just be wasting money since you cant do any tricks. You would be wasting just as much money as the kids that can to tricks on their Alum rigs(in your eyes).

can't do any tricks? where did that come from? Did you figure out what type of "tricks" I want to do on the bike or is your knowledge of cycling a little to limited for that? I assure I am not that bad at doing said tricks and wouldn't mind a bike that would both ease doing them and just as importantly burly enough to take that type of abuse better then my current bike.

can't do any tricks? where did that come from? Did you figure out what type of "tricks" I want to do on the bike or is your knowledge of cycling a little to limited for that? I assure I am not that bad at doing said tricks and wouldn't mind a bike that would both ease doing them and just as importantly burly enough to take that type of abuse better then my current bike.
Well...lets see some ****. This statement is pointless without pics.