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Anyone here have any old battle hardened survivors? 20 years old at least, to call vintage.
I realize that they were sort of throwaway bikes, meant to be used and abused for a season or two then relegated to back-up bike, so you don't seem to see too many really old cross bikes.
Wouldn't you love to find an old vintage cyclocrosser from the 30's?
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Yeah, kinda what I figured. Seems like cyclocross was in the dark ages until about 10 years ago.
I wish I could find some decent pics of old 'crossers.
The vintage 'crossers, I sure, still exist, but never had the general sentimental value in the cycling community that vintage road bikes had. Granted, there were some lovely 'cross bikes in the 80s, my favorite being the Alan and Geurciotti 'cross bikes. I still have magazine cutouts of Paul Curley's machines from back in the late eighties, when his bike had amongst its unique componenty a plastic BMX saddle. Another cool bike was the custom Marins the Don Myrah rode with neon touches (late eighties, early nineties).
It's a worthy pursuit to dredge up the old 'crossers from the vaults of obscurity, but if you commit to digging deep, I'm sure you'll unearth some real beauties, and I for one would love to see some old barcons, canti's, and plastic BMX saddles.
Yeah, kinda what I figured. Seems like cyclocross was in the dark ages until about 10 years ago.
I wish I could find some decent pics of old 'crossers.
There are some AWESOME ones up on fgg right now, if you haven't seen em already.
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2007/feb/NilsSandin.htm
They are jacked from this site; it has hi res versions and some great historical info and documents too.
http://www.blackbirdsf.org/cx/
They are jacked from this site; it has hi res versions and some great historical info and documents too.
http://www.blackbirdsf.org/cx/
WOW, that looks much harder than what we see today.
Tim
Anyone here have any old battle hardened survivors? 20 years old at least, to call vintage.
Here's my +/- 1980 cross turned commuter, don't you dare call it a throwawaybike, matey! (although it HAS been abused ... a lot) :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/82651445@N00/395660656/
+ how it looked when I bought it :
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=253683&highlight=gazelle+cross
Don "the Mudman" Myrah...
http://i.pbase.com/v3/12/60712/1/50542942.donmyrahmba.jpg
Note the barend shifters, this shot must be from the early or mid '90s as by the late '90s most riders had gone to STI.
Also interesting is the use of "natural features" as a barrier. Nowdays you get maybe 2 sets of 18" barriers per lap and maybe a run-up.
Yeah I have seen all those old grainy magazine scans from the '20s and '30s (very interesting stuff) but not a single contemporary photo of a really old bike. It just seems odd to me that you can find more pics of MTBs from the '70s than vintage cyclocross bikes. I have been scouring the web for cool vintage bike stuff for years and have as yet to see a good picture of a 'cross bike more than 10 or 15 years old and even those are like hen's teeth.
Here's my +/- 1980 cross turned commuter, don't you dare call it a throwawaybike, matey! (although it HAS been abused ... a lot) :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/82651445@N00/395660656/
+ how it looked when I bought it :
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=253683&highlight=gazelle+cross
Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
Hope some more come out of the woodwork.
My 80-something Bianchi cross turned commuter.
http://www.chipcom.net/bikes/bianchi_x.jpg
Found another Gazelle on E-Bay...
http://i11.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/57/0a/3e_1_b.JPG
Go find a copy of the DVD "Pure Sweet Hell". Has actual video footage of 70's 'cross action! Crazy! So much hair-- how did they manage to get their helmets on?
http://www.bikebuzz.net/cyclocrossfilm/
I don't have any pictures of it handy, but I ride a Bianchi Axis that might be 20 years old now. I bought it used and don't know when it was made, but it is lugged steel with 126mm rear dropout spacing.
Then again, the fork is that unicrown steel design they were using in the early 90's, so I'm not sure.
A friend's bike. He gives it a good racin' each year.
http://www.velocommunity.com/albums/Sac_bikes/aac.sized.jpg
What were the big brand names in older cross bikes?
mander
Thank you so much for posting the http://www.blackbirdsf.org/cx/ site. This has seriously made my day that is just freekin awesome. I love the photo of the guy coming out of the cave!!! Awesome. This is a great thread :) I love the sport of cyclocross and to see where it has come from is a wonderful.
Go find a copy of the DVD "Pure Sweet Hell". Has actual video footage of 70's 'cross action! Crazy! So much hair-- how did they manage to get their helmets on?
http://www.bikebuzz.net/cyclocrossfilm/
This?...
http://static.flickr.com/83/261029679_d81b24a072_m.jpg
(just kidding)
Thanks for the link to the cool clip.
Hey Jimmy Mack I like that Bianchi especially the Salsa stem w/ Dirtdrops.
Cyclodan--
Like those "dirt drops", eh? Well, then go check out the "Midge" handle bar by On-One. go to www.on-one.co.uk if this danged link doesn't work and look for the Midge handlebar. (http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=7&MMN_position=7:7)
It's similar to the one in the photo, but probably cooler and better.
I run them on my CX bike and LOVE THEM.
And no, i DON'T work for the company-- although i wish i did since the handlebars just that good.
Actually-- i keep forgetting. Pricepoint stocks the bars.
Here is my older touring frame with a SS CX setup.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9985/img1336kp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/4453/img1337ki2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1483/img1338tv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/8170/img1339wi5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Cyclodan--
Like those "dirt drops", eh? Well, then go check out the "Midge" handle bar by On-One. go to www.on-one.co.uk if this danged link doesn't work and look for the Midge handlebar. (http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=7&MMN_position=7:7)
It's similar to the one in the photo, but probably cooler and better.
I run them on my CX bike and LOVE THEM.
And no, i DON'T work for the company-- although i wish i did since the handlebars just that good.
Actually-- i keep forgetting. Pricepoint stocks the bars.
Are midge bars basically for sticking in the drops most of the time? From the looks of them it looks like the drops are the #1 position, and maybe the hoods aren't that comfortable?
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http://i5.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/8d/d5/019b_1.JPG
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Looks like Roland Liboton (http://www.wkveldrijden2006.nl/html/EN/historie_wkhelden4.asp). One of the first Belgian badasses.
Looks like Roland Liboton (http://www.wkveldrijden2006.nl/html/EN/historie_wkhelden4.asp). One of the first Belgian badasses.
Yep, you saw that right, it's the 80's 5 time world champion alright! And a real 'badass' as you put it; he sure didn't mind 'a drink or two' now & then.
British Nat's '59...
Doesn't the bike on the right appear to be sans derailleur?
http://www.addiscombe.org/nontext/features/duffield/1959_nat_cx.jpg
Is that guy in the top left hand corner wearing plaid shirt, too?
a shop around my parts has a NOS sugino cross crank like the one on that gazelle. if someone buys that quercotti and wants to tyr a period build. i could grab it for ya.
I just picked this up this 1980s frame. It was originally from a shop in Belgium according to the stickers on it. If anyone has any more info on this frame I'd love to know more about this.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7371/vanco1ic7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5330/vanco2zm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1922/vanco4dn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1834/vanco7jl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I found the pictures of the bike that hooked me into the sport. It's a 1986 Alan. Screwed and glued. Supposedly a guy from the Alan squad won the Amatuer worlds on this frame back in 1986. It worked well for me and I tried to do it justice in the beginner category. I found the pictures of the bike that hooked me into the sport. It's a 1986 Alan. Screwed and glued. Supposedly a guy from the Alan squad won the Amateur worlds on this frame back in 1986. It worked well for me and I tried to do it justice in the beginner category.
Things of note:
Barcon shifter
Mafac brakes
Platform pedals
Soccer shoes with modified cleats and bolt studs for snake bite traction
This is a very “Ghetto Fab” setup, but it was enough to convince to splurge ona race bike for next year.
http://www.velocommunity.com/albums/repository/P6230021.sized.jpg
http://www.velocommunity.com/albums/repository/P6230022.sized.jpg
Don "the Mudman" Myrah...
http://i.pbase.com/v3/12/60712/1/50542942.donmyrahmba.jpg
i think my dad has that helmet.
Go find a copy of the DVD "Pure Sweet Hell". Has actual video footage of 70's 'cross action! Crazy! So much hair-- how did they manage to get their helmets on?
http://www.bikebuzz.net/cyclocrossfilm/
Man I totally forgot I ordered that movie.... I should be getting it in the mail tomorrow
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