BMX - Help with bike choice/track design

Hey guys I have a Haro R2 and it's a good ride. I've had it for a little over a year and it's getting pretty beat. It's also a bit heavier then I'd like it to be.

I want to buy a new bike for this summer. I looked at hoffman, haro, and other brands, but can't decide what would work best. I ride BMX dirt tracks/jumps. What does everyone think is good bike for a decent price. (200-400$)

About a track. I have 5-6acres but can only use 1-2 for a track. I don't want a super long track, and It will prob. end up being a small stepdown(less then 10') into a double with 2 lines. One will be a longer launch(atleast 20') and one will be real peaked(about 12'). I'm not exactly sure if this is what I should do or not? How tall/long are normal dirt jumps? There is only 1 dirt track around(other then my friends house and here) and it's longest jump is only about 10' long and 4' high. Me and one of my friends both plan on trying backflips again this year after some bad crashes trying last year, so how tall/long is a good backflip jump?

Thanks in advance guys.

I see a lot of stupidity. You have 5-6 acres of land, which means you have a fairly decent amount of money, and you don't want to spend a lot of money on a race bike and intend to do backflips on it. If you get a race bike, no matter how much you spend on it, you don't want to do backflips on it because backflips on a race bike = suicide

spend some money, get a good race bike for racing, and get a good freestyle bike for backflips... or just get a decent freestyle bike and race it too.

I do not plan on racing or buying a racing bike. Sorry for the confusion, but I plan to build a freestyle bmx dirt track. And having land means nothing when it's my parents... I'm still a broke teenager. haha

Anyone reccommend any good freestyle bikes?

DK Six Pack.

Whatever Fit, DK or Eastern that's in that price range should be great. The Specialized bikes are pretty good too, mine's held up well.

Whatever Fit or DK that is in that price range should be great. The Specialized bikes are pretty good too, mine's held up well.
fixed.

No, broken, Eastern is fine. Just because they make a frame that pushes the envelope, that doesn't mean they suck.

Haha. I just don't like Eastern because I've heard bad things about them (especially their hubs). I wouldn't buy an Eastern complete because the back hub like self-destructs.

http://www.danscomp.com/101073.php?cat=BIKES
http://www.danscomp.com/101952.php?cat=BIKES

They look nice. If a bike does not have a 4130 frame is it still okay?

http://www.danscomp.com/101951.php?cat=BIKES
http://www.danscomp.com/101094.php?cat=BIKES
http://www.danscomp.com/101181.php?cat=BIKES

Haven't seen any probs with eastern hubs around here. Their completes are really nice for the prices.

Steer away from anything that is not chromoly.

The six pack is by far the best choice out of those bikes^^

http://www.danscomp.com/101951.php?cat=BIKES
http://www.danscomp.com/101094.php?cat=BIKES
http://www.danscomp.com/101181.php?cat=BIKES
http://www.danscomp.com/101178.php?cat=BIKES

those are not 100% 4130, but would they hold up well?

The 2 easterns are decent but I'd still avoid them. Just go for a 6 pack, you wouldn't regret it.

Thanks for the advice. I'll be looking for a new bike for another month or so since there's still a foot or 2 of snow in my yard and I don't plan to be riding until atleast april.

Anyone have takeoff/landing specs for some good dirt jumps?

If your gonna build a track, rent a bobcat.

I will. I prob. won't rent one until early summer though, that's when my dad always gets one for yardwork and other things around the house. I already have nice sized jumps, but they were for my pitbike so the faces aren't steep as they need to be for bmx. I think as soon as the snow is gone me and a few of my friends will fix 2 of the jumps in a day and 1 will be about 6' tall and 15' long, and the other will be around 4' tall and 12' long. Sound like a good size?

I'm not sure about the jumps. I would also reccomend the DK 6 Pack....

I see a lot of stupidity. You have 5-6 acres of land, which means you have a fairly decent amount of money
His profile says he's from PA and unless he's close to one of the big citys...5-6 acres isn't expensive. It's probly just as much as a house with half an acre where you and i would live. Correct me if i'm wrong.


because backflips on a race bike = suicide
No.
Backflips on a race bike = Todd Lyons.

His profile says he's from PA and unless he's close to one of the big citys...5-6 acres isn't expensive. It's probly just as much as a house with half an acre where you and i would live. Correct me if i'm wrong.


Basically in some parts of PA land is real low price, but I live right off the blvd. I'm not sure how much it was or nething though haha... My friend lives about 10 miles from me by farms and stuff and land out there is real cheap.

Guys, I do like the DK 6 Pack, and it seems pretty nice for the price. Does it not have a gyro? Also how would I do barspins/tailwhips if it doesn't? Just wondering how heavy a dirt bmx bike should be?

Guys, I do like the DK 6 Pack, and it seems pretty nice for the price. Does it not have a gyro? Also how would I do barspins/tailwhips if it doesn't? Just wondering how heavy a dirt bmx bike should be?
You can do barspins and tailwhips without a gyro. There are special kinda of straight cables called 'Linear cables' that have special housing that allows it to be kinked and twisted without locking up your brakes. Your 6 pack will probly come with a regular cable which will be fine for you starting out. Once that breaks or when and if your ready for barspins/tailwhips you can get a linear cable from your local shop or favorite mailorder. Odyssey makes a great linear cable. And all of them are under $10ish.

EDIT: Straight cables are also easier to set up then gyros and cheaper. A tad lighter too.

Just found felt bmx, these bikes look sick, how good are they?

http://www.feltbmx.com/07_bikes/07_fuse.html
http://www.feltbmx.com/07_bikes/07_manic.html

http://www.feltbmx.com/07_bikes/07_chasm.html
http://www.feltbmx.com/07_bikes/07_mystic.html

Felt bikes that are full chromo aren't bad, but I would still go with the DK Six Pack.

6 pack...

where in PA?


and if your buying it for jumps and such why not just buy a race bike?
you did say your current bike was a bit heavier then you wanted?

if not go with the 6pack

http://www.danscomp.com/101602.php?cat=BIKES

Why is that bike 27lbs. and the DK 32lbs? any would that be better or worse then the DK?

I want to use it for Dirt jumps. I wil prob. ride it on the street a few times but I'm not to good at either dirt or street.
I live in Butler, PA. It's about an hour from Pittsburgh. Anyone else from PA?

actually looks like a pretty solid bike

go with the DK. rockstar was horrible and went out of business very quickly.

I live in Butler, PA. It's about an hour from Pittsburgh. Anyone else from PA?

I live in PA. Around Wilkes-Barre/Scranton...like 25 minutes away from them.

Kool man any nice tracks around there? There was a decent track last year behind this place called kemper's. It's like a patch of woods by a pond behind a gas station/minimart sorta thing. Me and one of my friends rode it once then a bunch of jack@$$es cut down trees and ruined the jumps. So I had a PIT bike track in my yard so I peaked out one of the tabletops and made it into a slight stepup about 18' long but only about 4/5' high. I have 2 doubles that are made for my pitbike, and 2 table tops. It's set up nice so I really only need to fix the launch faces to get some "pop" and I'll make the doubles shorter since they are 20+feet. I will deff. get pics of it for you guys in a month or 2 before I go into action on it.

Also my friend mentioned maybe getting a woodchip pile to land in before we try backflips on dirt again. How well would that work?

woodchips=splinters. Leaves are the best for a soft landing.

Leaves=Snakes, Boxes are better for soft landings

dem PA yokels knows alls abouts da wildlyfesss

I was looking at frames and other parts and thinking of maybe buying good parts and making a custom bike. I think I could either start off by ordering a set of rims/hubs/spokes, tires, break pads, bars, and some other things and then as I break things I would buy what I need. I think the frame on my bike is pretty solid. I have a 2005 Haro R2. I think that the frame and forks will last for a long time still and the crank is still pretty smooth. I'll only stay with my frame for a little while unless it is a good frame?

I'd be willing to spend more $ on a custom bike if I knew that it would be better quality and last longer. I found these online and wondered if any of them would be good to buy and which frame would be good to get? I'm over 170lbs. and 5'9.5" if that means anything

http://www.danscomp.com/281901.php?cat=PARTS
http://www.danscomp.com/281900.php?cat=PARTS
http://www.danscomp.com/281000.php?cat=PARTS

Also guys how tall/long are normal dirt jumps? In the x-games they had a 28' double and smaller ones last year on the dirt freestyle track, is that normal length?

http://www.danscomp.com/281901.php?cat=PARTS
http://www.danscomp.com/281900.php?cat=PARTS
http://www.danscomp.com/281000.php?cat=PARTS
Those are crap. They have a lot of Poverty parts. Don't buy them.

Alright. Which company's parts are considered good?
Please specify for me:

Fork:
Bars:
Grips:
Stem:
Head Set:
Cranks:
Chain Wheel:
Pedals:
Chain:
Seat:
Post:
Clamp:
Brake:
Lever:
Rims:
Hubs:
Tires:

Animal. Odyssey. G-Sport. The end.

Well, FSA and Shadow for one part each.

Animal. Odyssey. G-Sport. Sunday! The end.
word.

Alright. Which company's parts are considered good?


Fork: S&M, Sunday or Odyssey
Bars: S&M or Sunday.
Grips: ODI Longnecks.
Stem: S&M, Solid, or Fit.
Head Set: FSA
Cranks: Profile, Fly, Odyssey
Chain Wheel: Tree Odyssey or anyting 7075
Pedals: Odyssey or Wellgo (Mg-1/Mg-52)
Chain: KMC 510HX
Seat: Shadow, Macneil or Coalition
Post: Fit or Thomson.
Clamp: Whatever is cheap and light.
Brake: Odyssey or Fly
Lever: Tech 77.
Rims: Odyssey or Sun
Hubs: Profile or Primo
Tires: Primo or Odyssey

Chain: KMC 510HX


What's the difference from one chain to another?

Thanks KinetikBiker.

Also guys how tall/long are normal dirt jumps? In the x-games they had a 28' double and smaller ones last year on the dirt freestyle track, is that normal length?

That is inhuman size

What's the difference from one chain to another?
That's like asking what's the difference from one part to another part.

Actually, it is the same thing.

What's the difference from one chain to another?
well you got your old school - http://www.xultrasoft.com/bling/images/3.png
and your new sschool - http://bling-kingl.buy-from.com/product_images/fullsize/blingpics.jpg

well you got your old school - http://www.xultrasoft.com/bling/images/3.png
and your new sschool - http://bling-kingl.buy-from.com/product_images/fullsize/blingpics.jpg

Why do I even ask?

I actually almost bought some ice once in my ghetto days.

That is inhuman size

Well what is normal size?