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bdcheung
03-01-07, 01:08 PM
So I'm rocking around a -30 TSB right now, and I'm wondering what's the best way to recover a bit. Will light riding (<60% FTP for, say, an hour) help me more than just not riding at all for a day or two?
zimbo
03-01-07, 01:59 PM
The best way to have your TSB go up is to take a full day off the bike. Whether or not that's the best for your legs depends on the rider. Most folks like to do a 30-minute spin for recovery.

Assuming you are racing on Sunday, I would take a day off the bike tomorrow. On Saturday I would ride no higher than endurance pace for an hour with two or three 2-3 minute low VO2Max bursts in the middle of the workout (little hills, perhaps) just to open up the legs.

--Steve
bvfrompc
03-01-07, 02:08 PM
ok, under the adage of the only stupid questions is the one not asked..

Whats is this TSB of which you speak? How did you lose it, I know from ZImbo how to get it back.

I assume I haven't read the book or something, anyways....

What the heck is it?
cmh
03-01-07, 02:15 PM
ok, under the adage of the only stupid questions is the one not asked..

Whats is this TSB of which you speak? How did you lose it, I know from ZImbo how to get it back.

I assume I haven't read the book or something, anyways....

What the heck is it?

Based on a quick google search, I think they must be talking about the Tennessee School for the Blind (www.tsb.k12tn.net/). Or maybe the Texas School of Business, where I imagine they teach Enron-style accounting?

Anywho - I'd like to know the answer to this question as well - is it from the Hunter & Allen Training with a Power Meter book?
bdcheung
03-01-07, 02:48 PM
TSB = Training Stress Balance. A "scientific" measure of your overall potential for athletic performance, based on your fitness + freshness.
bvfrompc
03-01-07, 02:53 PM
How does one measure it?
DrPete
03-01-07, 02:58 PM
All you need to do is buy a power meter and CyclingPeaks WKO+ software...

www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com
stea1thviper
03-01-07, 03:53 PM
psh TSB. really now, what happened to the days where when u were tired u were tired, not a negative tsb.
bdcheung
03-01-07, 03:57 PM
oh, i'm tired, but now I can brag to the world just how tired I am
NomadVW
03-01-07, 05:10 PM
Rapid rise in TSB (ala day off) always ends up with crap performance for me. Steady gradual taper works better. I can flatten TSB with longer endurance level ride, and gradually let off the gas with an "opener" style sprint intervals with long endurance recovery. Either way, keeping endurance level (L2) rides truly in L2 means holding back a lot. But it pays off at the end of the taper.
stea1thviper
03-01-07, 05:25 PM
oh, i'm tired, but now I can brag to the world just how tired I am

lol.

personally i find after a day completely off from a particularly draining workout (or couple days of hard workouts) im in my best form. ive tried slow tapering and it just doesnt do it for me. staying off the bike on recovery days is also a good mental break for me. everyone's different.
bdcheung
03-01-07, 05:31 PM
The thunderstorms that just rolled in will make staying off the bike tomorrow easier. Hopefully they'll leave Saturday morning, giving way to gorgeous weather for the Sunday race :)
ed073
03-01-07, 06:01 PM
WTF is a TSB when it's at home????

sounds like w@nk to me....get out and train.
NoRacer
03-01-07, 06:52 PM
So I'm rocking around a -30 TSB right now, and I'm wondering what's the best way to recover a bit. Will light riding (<60% FTP for, say, an hour) help me more than just not riding at all for a day or two?


With full day rests, due to being ill, here's how my TSB progressed into the positive:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/NoRacer/tsb.jpg
531Aussie
03-04-07, 10:11 PM
TSB? That's nothin'!! :p

Cycling Forums have had to put up an acronym glossary
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t386984.html


O...M..F...G!!


AC……………………ANAEROBIC CAPACITY
AEPF………………..AVERAGE EFFECTIVE PEDAL FORCE
AP……………………AVERAGE POWER
ATL………………….ACUTE TRAINING LOAD
AWC…………………ANAEROBIC WORK CAPACITY
C……………………..CADENCE
C……………………..CALORIES
Cd……………………COEFFICIENT OF DRAG
CL……………………CRANK LENGTH
CTL………………….CHRONIC TRAINING LOAD
CP……………………CRITICAL POWER
CPV………………….CIRCUMFERENTIAL PEDAL VELOCITY
CRITS……………….CRITERIUM (RACES)
FT…………………….FUNCTIONAL THRESHOLD
FTP…………………..FUNCTIONAL THRESHOLD POWER
HIT…………………..HIGH INTENSITY TRAINING
HR……………………HEART RATE
HRM…………………HEART RATE METER/MONITOR
HRMax………………HEART RATE MAXIMUM
IF…………………….INTENSITY FACTOR
J………………………JOULES
KJ…………………….KILOJOULES
KK……………………KURK KINETIC TRAINER
L1,L2 ETC.………….SPECIFIED LEVEL OF INTENSITY
LBS…………………..LOCAL BIKE SHOP
LSD…………………..LONG SLOW DISTANCE
LT…………………….LACTATE THRESHOLD
LTHR…………………LACTATE THRESHOLD HEART RATE
MAOD………………..MAXIMUM ACCUMULATED OXYGEN DEFICIT
MAP………………….MAXIMAL AEROBIC POWER
MLSS………………...MAXIMAL/MAXIMUM LACTATE STEADY STATE
MMP…………………MEAN MAXIMAL POWER
N……………………..NEWTONS
NMP…………………NEUROMUSCULAR POWER
NP……………………NORMALIZED POWER
OBLA………………..ONSET OF BLOOD LACTATE ACCUMULATION
PDC………………….POWER DISTRIBUTION CHART
PDF………………… POWER DURATION PROFILE
PMC.......................PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT CHART
PMs………………….POWER METERS
PP……………………POWER PROFILE/POWER PROFILING
PT……………………POWERTAP WIRELESS HUB SYSTEM
pVO2MAX………….POWER AT VO2MAX
QA……………………QUADRANT ANALYSIS
RHR………………….RESTING HEART RATE
RPE………………….RATE OF PERCEIVED EXERTION
RR……………………ROLLING RESISTANCE (TYRES/TIRES)
RR……………………ROAD RACE
SR……………………STAGE RACE
SRM…………………CRÈME DE LA CRÈME POWER METER
SST………………….SWEET SPOT TRAINING
TRIMPS…………….HEART RATE BASED TRAINING IMPULSE
TSB………………….TRAINING STRESS BALANCE
TT……………………TIME TRIAL
TSS………………….TRAINING STRESS SCORE
VI…………………….VARIABILITY INDEX
VO2Max…………….MAXIMAL OXYGEN UPTAKE/DELIVERY
W………………….....WATTS
W/kg………………….WATTS PER KILOGRAM
Z1,Z2 ETC…………..SPECIFIED LEVEL OF INTENSITY
classic1
03-04-07, 11:38 PM
You forgot AVOMA.

air velocity out my arse.
climbo
03-06-07, 09:06 PM
is that the biggest load of bollocks ever? The TSB, now THAT is funny !!!
Wilchemy
03-06-07, 09:18 PM
You forgot AVOMA.

air velocity out my arse.

And PPS......pulls per second :D
Gusboh
03-06-07, 10:42 PM
And PPS......pulls per second :D
My personal favourite.

Now, i've forgotten the rule... Do you pull off into the wind or away from it?
ed073
03-06-07, 10:43 PM
My personal favourite.

Now, i've forgotten the rule... Do you pull off into the wind or away from it?

Swing off so you are protecting the riders coming through.....so into the wind.
Gusboh
03-06-07, 11:00 PM
Swing off so you are protecting the riders coming through.....so into the wind.
:D
Snicklefritz
03-06-07, 11:24 PM
is that the biggest load of bollocks ever? The TSB, now THAT is funny !!!

HIT = High Intensity training?


I thought a HIT is what you took off a crack pipe?

Or what people don't do to Tammy Thomas
Wilchemy
03-06-07, 11:25 PM
My personal favourite.

Now, i've forgotten the rule... Do you pull off into the wind or away from it?

Hmm...don't know about the wind direction but I thought the rule was: "hidden away on your own, while listening very carefully" :D
Wilchemy
03-06-07, 11:26 PM
HIT = High Intensity training?


I thought a HIT is what you took off a crack pipe?

Or what people don't do to Tammy Thomas

:lol:
classic1
03-06-07, 11:48 PM
TSB = Transsexual Bicyclist?
jock
03-07-07, 04:11 AM
TSB? That's nothin'!! :p

Cycling Forums have had to put up an acronym glossary

Stupid glossary doesn't show ROFLMAO or even LOL. What use is it?

And what's the go with that table of numbers with everything down to five decimal places?!?? Is that like measuring your waking heart rate, oops sorry, HR (my bad) to three decimal places and worrying if it's out by more than 3 x 100ths of a BPM. Or should that be stated as "more than 3 mBPM"?? I'm confused.
NomadVW
03-07-07, 05:34 AM
Now now.. my excel spreadsheet calculates out like that too. Granted, I've got the format to only show 1 decimal place, but... well... there are some geeks among us that like to see things REALLY accurate.